Windows 7 Taskbar = Mac OS X Dock

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by jav6454, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Ok, I didn't know where to put this so, here it is. Mods, excuse me for putting this wrong if I did.

    So Microsoft unveiled Windows 7. Looks snappy just as Vista did in the beginning. However, I couldn't stop noticing a feature we all here enjoy in our beloved MacBooks, Mac Pros, iMacs and Mac Minis.

    Windows 7 has a Taskbar that has big icons in which windows minimize to the taskbar. I'm sure pretty much by now everyone got the idea, Redmond fired up its photocopiers on the Dock. Yes, its true. Just saw the tour of it. It is very similar, the Microsoft employee made a note that a comment was raised regarding this; however, he responded its copied from Windows 1.0, 95 and XP (I called that BS).

    What else has Microsoft copied from OS X? Or did they finally finished Vista? Be the judge.

    PS - Please don't bash me for wrong forum.
  2. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    i think its basically the same idea, just implemented differently

    I wouldnt call it a direct rip off.

    Was apple even the creater of the dock idea?
  3. jav6454 thread starter macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Not Apple, Steve was when he was with NEXT. The dock just carried into OSX due to the implementations NEXT brought.
  4. DannyBres macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2007
    Nope it was Nextstep by NeXT Computer that first had the dock..... which Steve made in his time away from apple and became the basis of OSX i believe

    EDIT: damn u beat me to it....
  5. mikeyr0x macrumors member

    Oct 24, 2008
  6. mcdj macrumors G3


    Jul 10, 2007
    one thing the W7 "dock" does that I always wished the OSX dock did is toggle the window of running a dock icon to minimize an open window, click again to maximize the window.
  7. richard.mac macrumors 603


    Feb 2, 2007
    51.50024, -0.12662
    NeXT created the Dock. Steve Jobs created NeXT. Apple purchased NeXT.
  8. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    Id chalk that up as an apple creation then.
  9. chill. macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2008
    lay off the kool-aid kids, everyone in the tech business has copied things from each other and apple is no different.

    contrary to popular belief, apple has ripped a lot off for their original operating system (xerox), chiclet keyboard (sony), jonathan ives design (dieter rams), etc. etc. and those people probably got the ideas from somewhere else beforehand

    stop worrying about who thought of what idea first and appreciate the work that has been built iteratively upon the efforts of others
  10. Piaget macrumors member

    Oct 30, 2008
  11. brotherben macrumors member


    Nov 3, 2008
    I don't know, I'm biased so I don't like it, But the biggest thing that pisses me off that they copied is their "gadgets" I mean they even got the name close to widgets. :mad:
  12. acfusion29 macrumors 68040


    Nov 8, 2007
    sony and apple are friends though :p
  13. trekkie604 macrumors 65832


    Feb 25, 2008
    Vancouver, Canada
    Where do you think Apple got the name "Fast User Switching"?
  14. jaytv111 macrumors regular

    Oct 25, 2007
    Um, are you kidding me? Konfabulator was out long before OS X had it. I think they were even called widgets in Konfabulator.
  15. SHADO macrumors 6502a


    Aug 14, 2008
    The Windows 7 "launch bar" is basically the Tiger I would call it copying to a certain degree (and yes i no apple has done it too).
  16. chagla macrumors 6502a


    Mar 21, 2008
    yah, i wonder why all the tires are round you know. why this random person has two ears like me. must be a copycat.

    but having used both mac and windows, i can confidently say that your assumptions is wrong. the windows taskbar has been there like forever. it does not work like the mac dock at all. the only difference now is that they are going to magnify it, (ie - make the icons bigger).

    so no my friend. taskbar =/= dock.

    you'll be surprised to know that if one wants have some validity in their arguments, they usually do some research prior to presenting it.

  17. brand macrumors 601


    Oct 3, 2006
    So then by your thinking, if Microsoft bought Apple that would mean that Microsoft created OSX, the iPod and everything else Apple created. Try again.
  18. chilipie macrumors 6502a


    May 8, 2006
    That would be because everyone is talking about Windows 7, in which the taskbar is application based (as in OS X), rather than previous versions of Windows where the taskbar was task based.

    Read the thread properly before getting snarky with people ;)
  19. prostuff1 macrumors 65816


    Jul 29, 2005
    Don't step into the kawoosh...
    This is a vast improvement over the XP taskbar. I don't have much experience with the Vista one but i assume it is very similar (except for previews of windows) to the XP one.

    The way i see this is that, like someone else said, the taskbar has become much more application based. And it is the application icons that acts as the taskbar when the app has been launched.

    The peek feature is kinda nice to. I do something similar in OS X already with expose>all windows. This little "shortcut" work some of the time, but as i open more windows it becomes impossible to read texts in exposed windows.
  20. akm3 macrumors 68020

    Nov 15, 2007
    Steve created Apple.
    God Created Steve.
    God Created Dinosaurs.
    God kills dinosaurs.
    Man creates dinosaurs
    Dinosaurs kill man,
    Women inherit the Earth?
  21. patrick0brien macrumors 68040


    Oct 24, 2002
    The West Loop
    Everybody does borrow cues from everybody else, heck you know what they say about flattery...

    Some 'copies' are more blatant than others, and I feel the those copies that are so bald-faced that the copy's implementation, or even name difference required so little creativity is what folks really rail at.

    If you dig deep enough, copying can be attributed to everything .

    Ex. "Hey! You used Iron in that design! Copycat!!!"

    Perhaps the line could conceivably be drawn at the point that if, at first glance, the educated can immediately see (feel, use) the resemblance of a preexisting thing.

    For the record, Apple's Macintosh (Lisa) GUI was created in-house at Apple after engineers saw Xerox Star at a demo. Star, due to an FTC ruling was not very patentable. Ergo, kind of a muddy area of IP. What then happened was Apple did implement patents on their creation.

    It's a fuzzy line, but a simplification could be said that Apple copied Star, and MS ripped off Apple (Apple lost the lawsuit)

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