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I asked chatgpt to summarize what Qualcomm promised vs what they delivered. While we need to take the output of chathpt with a grain of salt (don't be like that one lawyer who had chtgpt write his briefs for him), what's listed below is what I've seen in the review YTs.

Over promising on the benchmarks, gaming compatibility battery life being measured in days not hours, and AI (this I think is mostly a MS failure). Post 12 where I linked that video touches upon these items in greater details.


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I'd love to see the sales numbers on laptops between AMD, Intel and Qualcomm.
 
Read the comments section of

It's a YouTube short and it talks about how great a laptop is and then sometime later it says it's a Snapdragon.

People in the comments rag on Snapdragon endlessly.
 
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Here's a comparison of Lunar Lake to Snapdragon. He goes over all of the factors in deciding on one or the other or neither. Guess what his conclusion is. Max Tech did a similar video as well.

 
Well, they're getting hit by M4, AMD, Intel and nVidia fans so it's a pile on.
Its a problem of their own doing, paying influencer to talk up a product that really isn't better then the competition and failed to fulfill the lofty promises Qualcomm made
 
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As a side note, I really do hate how many of the tech people publish a paid video, and they say how they'll still be objective and that the paying company has no say in the production or content, yet they fall over themselves in stating how great the product is. Bambu is a company that does this, and while their 3d printers are great, the overall tone, verbiage and content of those paid videos are just over the top.

In the video I posted, there was a brief shot of Linus Tech Tips as one of those influencers who promoted the snapdragon and his YT was basically an 11 minute advertisement that Qualcomm paid them to produce.

While there's potential for ARM on windows and the competition is good for both intel and amd, I think these over the top videos only impact LTT's reputation as an objective reviewer, but then since Linus already is investor in Framework, I don't consider the channel terribly objective and unbiased.
 
As a side note, I really do hate how many of the tech people publish a paid video, and they say how they'll still be objective and that the paying company has no say in the production or content, yet they fall over themselves in stating how great the product is. Bambu is a company that does this, and while their 3d printers are great, the overall tone, verbiage and content of those paid videos are just over the top.

In the video I posted, there was a brief shot of Linus Tech Tips as one of those influencers who promoted the snapdragon and his YT was basically an 11 minute advertisement that Qualcomm paid them to produce.

While there's potential for ARM on windows and the competition is good for both intel and amd, I think these over the top videos only impact LTT's reputation as an objective reviewer, but then since Linus already is investor in Framework, I don't consider the channel terribly objective and unbiased.

You just have to factor it into the review and look at the objective data as opposed to the subjective stuff.

I think that Max Tech is an influencer for Asus on and off as he gives their products a lot of praise but he's declared M4 the winner over Asus products when doing direct comparisons.

I think that it's human that you praise companies that pay you.

It's not the case in the running shoe world because the people that review shoes get them from a variety of manufacturers - they don't get money so much as free products - you can do that with shoes but not for computers.
 
I'll just leave this here :p

Our son uses Copilot at work and he says that it's great for getting more work done with less effort.

I've tried Copilot on the web and much prefer Google AI.

I've tried Copilot on the Lenovo Yoga and it just seems to get stuff off the web.

The practical use of the Copilot button on the laptop would be to remap it to something I'd use.
 
Our son uses Copilot at work and he says that it's great for getting more work done with less effort.
I havn't tried copilot. for work, help with spreadsheets, or excel. I did ask it to write a python script, and I compared it to a python script chatgpt wrote and how I would have produced it. It didn't work, but it was better written, if that makes sense. I just had to fix a few things.

I'm just about all in with chatgpt, I tried Grok, and left me scratching my head. I've also been playing with ollama on my mac but so far I'm much more happier with chatgpt.
 
If they were really committed to it, they'd drop x86 support like Apple did.

With the amount of corporate x86 hardware out there, I don’t see this happening in a hurry.
It is more of a case of slowly encouraging change.
 
With the amount of corporate x86 hardware out there, I don’t see this happening in a hurry.
It is more of a case of slowly encouraging change.
Exactly, my organization still has a lot of windows 10 PCs, never mind moving to a whole different architecture. With this move to windows 11, we're finding a number of our departmental apps for human resources, and payroll to have some level of compatibility issues. I can't imagine them wanting a completely different architecture that would break more apps, and largely cost way more money to resolve.
 
Intel is stable, the question is, will they survive and the jury is still out on that.
Yeah, they will survive. They will always get bailed out, but unlike GM, that's a good thing for the industry and the world.

x86 is still king. It might not be for consumers as the years go on... but consider it like the EV industry. Despite the consumer world somewhat buying them in increasing volumes it's eternities away from replacing the majority of engine powered vehicles, indefinitely until the next breakthrough... vans, busses, trucks, ships ... forget it.

Viva la x86. Still there to do the heavy lifting.
 
Yeah, they will survive. They will always get bailed out, but unlike GM, that's a good thing for the industry and the world.

x86 is still king. It might not be for consumers as the years go on... but consider it like the EV industry. Despite the consumer world somewhat buying them in increasing volumes it's eternities away from replacing the majority of engine powered vehicles, indefinitely until the next breakthrough... vans, busses, trucks, ships ... forget it.

Viva la x86. Still there to do the heavy lifting.

nVidia just pulled out of testing on Intel 18A. Not a great sign, particularly when nVidia bought 3% of Intel.
 
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nVidia just pulled out of testing on Intel 18A. Not a great sign, particularly when nVidia bought 3% of Intel.
Yeah but Nvidia is going through a huge boom right now, it can pick and choose what and who it works with and on... whether or not that lasts beyond the AI bubble we will see.
 
The way it is worded it appears that GPU production is a money losing business.

What they're doing instead if re-allocating production lines for AI data center hardware.

Why? Because it likely has better margins or easier to do than gaming GPUs.

It is equivalent of changing airplanes having economy + business+ 1st class seating into an all business-class cabin class configuration. This was what Singapore Airlines done with their non-stop SIN-JFK route because it's better business to do so.
 
What they're doing instead if re-allocating production lines for AI data center hardware.
Oh no question, just like ram and ssd manufacturers.


Why? Because it likely has better margins or easier to do than gaming GPUs.
Yep, they'd rather focus their attention on the nearly 90% fat margins, then the tiny 11% highly competitive market.
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Oh no question, just like ram and ssd manufacturers.



Yep, they'd rather focus their attention on the nearly 90% fat margins, then the tiny 11% highly competitive market.
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Is that graphics reflecting margins or revenue?

If it's revenue then Nvidia has a clear advantage over everyone else.

I wonder if Apple's RDMA over Thundertbolt cluster tech is their attempt to eat into the growth industry of AI data centers.

If I was a Nvidia shareholder I approve of their decision.

If I was PCMR type wanting to upgrade within the next 9-18 months I hate it today.
 
Is that graphics reflecting margins or revenue?
the graphic says revenue (I just googled nvidia revenue)

Here's the latest financial statement


Third-quarter Gaming revenue was $4.3 billion, down 1% from the previous quarter and up 30% from a year ago

If their total revenue is 57 billion and gaming was 4.3, the latest quarter shows that gaming business unit was 7.5% of the overall revenue generated.
 
the graphic says revenue

Here's the latest financial statement




If their total revenue is 57 billion and gaming was 4.3, the latest quarter shows that gaming business unit was 7.5% of the overall revenue generated.
Jensen moving to AI is inspired.

PCMR can put up with waiting 1-2 years for their net upgrade. lolz.
 
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