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Windows Goes Multi-Touch
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Nothing on that video that my iPhone does not already do in essentially the same way.
Just M$ trying to innovate by emulation again.
Wonder if they will even come up with an idea on their own?
Just M$ trying to innovate by emulation again.
Wonder if they will even come up with an idea on their own?
Looks cool. Although nothing remotely new at this point. Surface was what a year ago? And of course IPhone and all the "touch" phones. You think a computer running multi touch would all you to do more than play with images and maps. Give real world scenarios instead of Wii level "fun".
Funny how the laptop screen is pushed around from his pecking in the beginning and then it looks like it was locked down so it didn't move for the second half. I don't mind the smudges but it looks like it would be a huge pain to do on a laptop. Not enough stability.
Funny how the laptop screen is pushed around from his pecking in the beginning and then it looks like it was locked down so it didn't move for the second half. I don't mind the smudges but it looks like it would be a huge pain to do on a laptop. Not enough stability.
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I think mainly it would be for "convertible" Tablets. You can use it as a surface, or convert to use as a standard PC.
Meanwhile, OS X Touch, already used in iPhones and iPod Touches, gets extended to the new Newton on June 6th, and a new Mac Tablet this August....
Windows 7 2015, Mac OS X Touch 2007...
I think mainly it would be for "convertible" Tablets. You can use it as a surface, or convert to use as a standard PC.
They announced Widows 7 for 2010? So, 2015 then??
Rich
Meanwhile, OS X Touch, already used in iPhones and iPod Touches, gets extended to the new Newton on June 6th, and a new Mac Tablet this August....
Windows 7 2015, Mac OS X Touch 2007...
huh, so windows playing catchup again. undoubtedly an inferior product will be created and marketed, full of holes and bugs, but as ballmer said, they'll get it installed in 27 million computers because their blind base will buy anything dropped in front of them (sounds familiar . . . but at least the apple blind base can have a bit more confidence in stability and security . . . )
check the legal record before defaming
The courts ruled that Apple licensed the Mac OS UI to Microsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation
The courts ruled that Apple licensed the Mac OS UI to Microsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation
>We'll sell 270m PCs a year, and Apple will sell 10m. Apple is fantastically successful, and so are we.
Got to love this guy. Windows 7... To be released soon.
I was unaware Microsoft sold PC's, I thought they were a software company. We have seen what happens when they try to make their own hardware (Zune, Xbox Ring of Death).
I've never liked mice. The only advantage I feel they bring is for gaming. When I'm on my laptop, the only time I plug in my mouse it is to play StarCraft. Otherwise, I prefer almost exclusively keyboard navigation... supplimented occasionally by trackpad... or in some futurized implementation, I could see myself using a virtual keyboard with trackpad-like functionality.
My ideal navigational tool for today's technology would be a keyboard with a trackpad on it (I can never find one with a full keyboard, trackpad, arrow pad and numeric keypad). I had the genius idea a while back to create a modular keyboard where a user could purchase components (s)he needed and attach them adjacent to a keyboard in any order (s)he pleased... but then I discovered Apple already patented it.
Damn them. I could be rich.
I was almost certain the recent iMac redesign would be just this. I mean, they're already using the mobile parts for the iMac... give the tablet portion the CPU, enough solid-state memory for system essentials, and WiFi to use "Back To My Mac" to interface with the base station, which houses an HDD, GPU, optical drive and other garbage.
Sh*t... is there a patent for a convertable computer? I better get on that before Apple beats me again!
-Clive
My ideal navigational tool for today's technology would be a keyboard with a trackpad on it (I can never find one with a full keyboard, trackpad, arrow pad and numeric keypad). I had the genius idea a while back to create a modular keyboard where a user could purchase components (s)he needed and attach them adjacent to a keyboard in any order (s)he pleased... but then I discovered Apple already patented it.
Damn them. I could be rich.
I was almost certain the recent iMac redesign would be just this. I mean, they're already using the mobile parts for the iMac... give the tablet portion the CPU, enough solid-state memory for system essentials, and WiFi to use "Back To My Mac" to interface with the base station, which houses an HDD, GPU, optical drive and other garbage.
Sh*t... is there a patent for a convertable computer? I better get on that before Apple beats me again!
-Clive
Minimum System Requirements
...as well as having to upgrade your PC when this rubbish comes out (latest Processor, huge amount of RAM, latest graphics card, etc) you will also need a second mouse!
...as well as having to upgrade your PC when this rubbish comes out (latest Processor, huge amount of RAM, latest graphics card, etc) you will also need a second mouse!
First let me state that I am a fan of Apple products, and I have replaced all of my systems with Macs. Well... Except the xbox 360...
Can't we all just get along? Even SJ said, "good artists copy, great ones steal". I don't think that SJ of BG stay awake at night and worry about which one is coming out with technology X. They both have made significant contributions to the computer market. They both are multi-gazillionairs, (Bill more than Steve), they both think they are the best, and they both don't care if you or I buy a Mac or PC w/Windows.
Can't we all just get along? Even SJ said, "good artists copy, great ones steal". I don't think that SJ of BG stay awake at night and worry about which one is coming out with technology X. They both have made significant contributions to the computer market. They both are multi-gazillionairs, (Bill more than Steve), they both think they are the best, and they both don't care if you or I buy a Mac or PC w/Windows.
Speaking of workflow (on a totally random note): http://www.gridironsoftware.com/Flow/guidedtour
Could see multi-touch applied here for navigating the node interface.
Beat Apple to the punch with what?
Mocked up demos of non-existent features for a non-existent OS?
Oh right... that's how MS has 'produced' things for the past 20 years.
Its called "FUD".
Utter Nonsense
VAPOURWARE.
Thats what this is.
Whats even worse is its vapourware of a dubious quality. Stupid Microsoft cant even do vapourware well.
Waving your arms about to touch the computer screen? NO. Aint going to happen.
The only reason the iPhone has a touch screen is because its a unified product and uses the touch screen to avoid having a pull-out keyboard. By combining all the functions on the screen the iPhone becomes the brilliant device it is.
But its a small hand-held communications device. Not a Big Ass Table or a PC.
This is about as stupid as saying that the steering wheel is a thing of the past and the windshield on your car is where you can do everything.
Now you are doing 100, with your nose 3" from the windshield. Nice.
And its all smudged from your greasy pizza-eating fingers as well.
Please stop with these STUPID stories. Reporting M$ vapourware is a waste of bandwidth.
VAPOURWARE.
Thats what this is.
Whats even worse is its vapourware of a dubious quality. Stupid Microsoft cant even do vapourware well.
Waving your arms about to touch the computer screen? NO. Aint going to happen.
The only reason the iPhone has a touch screen is because its a unified product and uses the touch screen to avoid having a pull-out keyboard. By combining all the functions on the screen the iPhone becomes the brilliant device it is.
But its a small hand-held communications device. Not a Big Ass Table or a PC.
This is about as stupid as saying that the steering wheel is a thing of the past and the windshield on your car is where you can do everything.
Now you are doing 100, with your nose 3" from the windshield. Nice.
And its all smudged from your greasy pizza-eating fingers as well.
Please stop with these STUPID stories. Reporting M$ vapourware is a waste of bandwidth.
Thats not a post.
If there is anger about Microsoft that leads to what you so eloquently call 'haters', then it is because Microsoft has cheated and lied and stolen for many years.
Perhaps some folks are annoyed at that.
Mmmm... rather than trying to make a MT surface into a KB, maybe the solution is to evolve the KB into a MT surface.
I wonder if there were a way to create a flexible, flat, surface with a "feel" similar to a KB (subtle depressions/bumps), while at the same time being usable as a continuous MT surface. Display technology need not be included in the surface (but could be).
Then, there is a totally different approach. Abandon the QWERTY keyboard as we know it. A good typist gets 100 wpm... a good stenotypist gets 200-300 wpm on a smaller KB.
When Doug Englebart introduced the mouse, at the same demo he used a 5-key chordset keyboard for text entry. He claimed that with a few hours training, experienced typists were more proficient on the chordset (with one hand) than on the QWERTY.
Now, say this is true, and we rethink the "entry surface" on a laptop or a desktop. While a non-tactile virtual QWERTY KB may be difficult to simulate/use, a virtual 5-Key Chordset KB should be relative easy.
In fact the Chordset KB could come and go, say with a double-tap. It would be available anywhere on the "surface" with either hand. Not only that, the virtual Chordset would conform itself to fit the individual's hand rather than vice versa.
So, we could have a flat surface (horizontal, or tilted to any comfortable angle) that allows production (chordset) typing with either hand and MT mousing (positioning, selecting, scrolling, zooming, tapping, pinching, flicking) with the other hand (or both)... say hello to productivity, and goodbye to carpal-tunnel!
When, viewed this way MT and KB/Mouse are not conflicting technologies, rather they are supportive as a "means to an end", result: Productivity!
Similar things have been said when Apple first released the original iMac w/o a floppy drive.
Apart from your call for haptics, I think you have an interesting point. I'm a fan of Engelbart's work too, ever since I saw the Scoble interview with him.
What I'm thinking is feasible, is the software to link a chord based system onto a iPhone or other Apple device. It might not push to everyone, but i'd imagine Engelbart might like a crack at porting over his glove concept to typing and gesturing via a Touch OS... You might not sell many, but it might be superior in certain applications
Ahh, there you go again, not actually doing your research. When someone mentions Vista is no more secure than XP you simply searched for "Vista More secure than XP" and come up with these two articles... but you didn't bother to read them did you (or maybe didn't understand them?)
The first one, if you actually read it, conceded that Vista was not that much more secure than XP and that it would have to do a whole lot better to make the claims that it does. (they even go so far as to say that Windows 2000 was more secure than both XP and Vista!) here is an excerpt from that article:
And the second article gets even better, with it's outrages claims (making it look like Vista is more secure than any other OS out of the gate) because if you actually see where the original article is from, it was written by Jeff Jones who is the Director Of Security at Microsoft! So of COURSE he's going to say that he found less vulnerabilities than any other OS and that he caught them all and fixed them... his job is at stake!
Just more Fear Uncertainty and Doubt from the Microsoft camp as per usual..
But more, not less. I'd also point out that CRN tested Vista without AV software which, as arstechnica put it:
Here's the full article which gives some perspective on the issue:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070530-windows-vista-no-more-secure-than-xp-report.html
Tut tut. Jeff Jones is one of the most respected security people in the industry which is why MS employ him - if you're the biggest OS manufacturer in the world then you get the best people in.
Jones is perfectly open about his employment with MS and has also been open with the test criteria - which are independent - to the point of being quite happy for anyone else to run the tests.
Here's a link to his blog:
http://blogs.technet.com/security/
Well, no. Just more ill informed nonsense form people who don't do their research.
Try this experiment. Hold your arm out straight for 60 seconds. A little fatigued, no? Now multiply that by your best guess as to how long you use your computer during the day. My point is that using multi-touch on a vertical surface for an extended length of time will be painful to the neck and shoulder. It is bad enough for some using a keyboard and mouse when gravity is not such an issue. Just my $.02