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You may also use Tiny11 and Rufus to get rid of the bloat and get a stripped down ISO, especially if you plan to install Win11 on older hardware. After a decade of solely using MacOS, I utilized it to set up a maxed out iMac 2011 21,5" for my son. Using the tool, the experience was actually quite similar to what I remembered from XP times (booting into a clean 800x600 desktop, local account only, etc...).
 
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That's the fun of using Windows. I wish I had that with macOS. 🙂
Not so much fun, when Oracle's PUM install fails to uninstall and I had to go into the registry and remove/change the entries so a reinstall would work.

I'm glad apple doesn't use a registry that I need to go in and fix things. I much prefer dragging/dropping (though some apps require an install)
 
Not so much fun, when Oracle's PUM install fails to uninstall and I had to go into the registry and remove/change the entries so a reinstall would work.

I'm glad apple doesn't use a registry that I need to go in and fix things. I much prefer dragging/dropping (though some apps require an install)
I am ambivalent about plist files.
 
Windows 3.0 — May 22, 1990
Windows 3.1 — April 6, 1992
I remember when my school got 3.1. I remember thinking such thoughts as, "I guess this looks neat but I am so much faster doing everything from the DOS prompt". and "None of this windows stuff seems important to coding." Okay, back to Scorched Earth...
 
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The other issue I see is the mind set of collecting data and using the operating system to show advertisements. I think in many respects and in many ways Microsoft has lost its way. At least when it comes to operating systems and also gaming
Yes indeed, this trend is quite concerning!
 
Like everyone, I hated Vista back in the day...for being the slowest OS possible...unnecessarily bloated and the like...in retrospective, of course, this was rather due to the weak hardware one had (something like an AMD Duron 600MHz and a GPU with a few MBs of RAM, way too little for Aero).
I did not realize at the time the weak hardware may have contributed to my poor Vista experience. Thank you for mentioning that point! But maybe the bloatware was bad enough...
 
weak hardware may have contributed to my poor Vista experience
That was one of the major contributing factors to Vista, at the time, most people's hardware was simply not powerful enough to drive the OS. It wasn't that your hardware was too weak, but rather microsoft was too ambitious with their gui
 
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Feels like it; Windows is lost in a midlife crisis with forced AI that few need or want. Big push for Linux and proprietary OS locally with both options being cheaper and accelerating far faster than Microsoft. If wasn't a gamer would have ditched Windows longtime back. Microsoft's only consideration is Microsoft not the customer... Personally I strip out all the bloat as have no interest, manually take control of the OS.

My HW and I fully expect to have full control; W11 nothing updates without my explicit permission outside of AV, no telemetry, no feature updates, no function changes, no OneDrive, no BS, no ads, no recommendation's not interested in what Microsoft is pushing...

Replaced my Windows 10 based tablet with an Honor 13" tablet, runs on a proprietary OS very loosely based on Open Android, that's where it stops. Multitasks like a Mac or PC, multiple windows, multiple desktops, runs full desktop apps. Top tier Snapdragon SOC, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Has basically sidelined my M1 MBP as is simply the faster more capable & portable device. Touch, Pen, KB up to the user as it's not designed to pigeonhole the customer and force sales of other devices. It's designed to work for the customer as they see fit... Out the box it blocks all the garbage.

Our daughter needed a new notebook for Uni, spoke with Honor made a great deal for one of their 14" premium notebooks. Maybe serving the customer first is the winning plan... Done with companies that only view me as an ATM.

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Feels like it; Windows is lost in a midlife crisis with forced AI that few need or want.
If any of the rumors are to be believed, windows 12 will have even more AI built in, possibly subscription based, and modular. I think the truth is buried in there somewhere, but I don't actually think we'll see a full subscription based operating system (yet)

Big push for Linux and proprietary OS locally with both options being cheaper and accelerating far faster than Microsoft. If wasn't a gamer would have ditched Windows longtime back.
I'm pleasently surprised at how Cachyos has breathed new life in my desktop PC and gaming is fine. Granted my gaming needs are probably a lot less demanding then yours but I'm finding that with steam/proton performance is near native windows performance. The elephant in the room of course with linux gaming is kernel level anti-cheat and that just doesn't exist. So if you have games that use that technology the linux is not your best option

My only other concern is system stability after updates, not that Microsoft has a stellar track record with updating windows. I've already gone through one round of updates with cachyos, and it went seamless and uneventful. I truly don't know if this Linux experiment of mine will be long term or short term, but for now its working great
 
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i wonder what's wrong with the windows guys at microsoft. whenever they have a good thing going (win7, win10) they go out of their way to screw it up. windows 11 is a POS.
 
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i wonder what's wrong with the windows guys at microsoft. whenever they have a good thing going (win7, win10) they go out of their way to screw it up. windows 11 is a POS.
Which is a bit like the vibes that I've been getting with MacOS 26, numerous reasons not to upgrade and fewer reasons to upgrade. Having said that, some of the features in 26.4 sound enticing. Also hoping that 27 delivers on bug squashing and performance improvements.

[March 15 comment: one additional enticement is the Calculator app's RPN sign bug is fixed.]
 
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I remember 1.0, I am dating myself. I was using the DOS versions of AutoCAD to design comm systems for military hospitals. It wasn't until Win 95 that I started doing networking and small office systems for local clients. I sold and installed literally 1000's of PC systems and Small Business Servers over the years. Always checked every PC and loaded Windows. I remembered sitting at my bench waiting for Small Business Server to load which generally took about an hour, wondering if I would ever get the time back someday. I became pretty good at editing the registry, especially to get rid of all the viruses the secretaries would get browsing at work. I guess XP was my favorite, the military hospitals I worked on all ran XP, government wouldn't allow Vista on any machines! I retired and decided find out what Macs were all about, bought an used 2012 iMac for a Chinese student returning home and joined the walled garden, much happier.
 
i wonder what's wrong with the windows guys at microsoft. whenever they have a good thing going (win7, win10) they go out of their way to screw it up. windows 11 is a POS.
Windows 11 itself is not a turd. It's all the forced crap and ai being pushed into every nook and cranny of it. I have all of it off and it's useable and fast. My issue is with hardware and hardwar pricing now. I can get a mac that can out perform a similarly priced Windows system. Then the build quality of said windows system is sewage.
 
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Everybody saying a positive thing about Windows should go to YouTube and watch Winsongs 95 on repeat until they are healed from their affliction.
 
Windows 11 itself is not a turd. It's all the forced crap and ai being pushed into every nook and cranny of it.
The bones are good, as they say, it's just what MS has prioritized.

I also think MS (in eating their own dog food), has laid off a lot of engineers, and developers, and they relied on AI to write the code. The quality of the updates has largely fallen off the cliff.
 
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