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jaxstate said:
Well since Windows has about 95% of the market, which don't include the bootcamp users, I thinking a lot of people will be.

All of the people I know (except the ones who got their windoze bundled) did not "BUY" their windows, but still use it on their PCs.. ;)
 
$239 for a bloated DRM infested OS is outrageous.
I've tried several Vista betas and IMHO it's a pile of crap. It's arguably the largest (unecessary) resource hog of an OS that I've ever seen.

I see more visual effects in OSX and it's 10000000x easier on a computer. For crying out loud, OSX runs on G3s. 6+ year old computers. On the other side of the coin I guarantee you that you won't see Vista running on a Pentium 3...ever.

Microsoft is dropping the ball with Vista big time. 6 skus (3 for home users, 3 for businesses), ridiculous hardware requirements, and this pricing is the icing on the cake.

I'll stick with the 1-2 combo of XP and Win2k for my Windows computing; thanks for offering though, Redmond. Try again.
 
Yeah I know people who hacked Tiger and hacked Vista too, but most people will buy the OS. You don't make billions if no one is buying your product.
toughboy said:
All of the people I know (except the ones who got their windoze bundled) did not "BUY" their windows, but still use it on their PCs.. ;)

Run on a G3? How well. I use to have problems with the speed of Panther on my G4 iMac.
zero2dash said:
$239 for a bloated DRM infested OS is outrageous.
I've tried several Vista betas and IMHO it's a pile of crap. It's arguably the largest (unecessary) resource hog of an OS that I've ever seen.

I see more visual effects in OSX and it's 10000000x easier on a computer. For crying out loud, OSX runs on G3s. 6+ year old computers. On the other side of the coin I guarantee you that you won't see Vista running on a Pentium 3...ever.

Microsoft is dropping the ball with Vista big time. 6 skus (3 for home users, 3 for businesses), ridiculous hardware requirements, and this pricing is the icing on the cake.

I'll stick with the 1-2 combo of XP and Win2k for my Windows computing; thanks for offering though, Redmond. Try again.
 
Evangelion said:
But you are not required to upgrade OS X all the time. Hmmmm, maybe some people should start to look at Linux by now. With Ubuntu folks could get two upgrades every year, and they are 100% free :).

That's true. If you skip a OS X release, you're still fine. Skip Vista and you'll probably be a decade behind at some point. But it's almost a given to purchase OS upgrades whenever given (as long as some major features are given) because your entire working environment is in the OS. Anyways, I think it's just important to view a Vista purchase as being the equivalent of at least two OS X releases, so saying that Vista is $239 and OS X is $129 - and thus, that Vista is more expensive - is not completely true.

I'm afraid to touch Linux :( I don't even know what it looks like, how it works, or what runs on it.
 
Building a new PC soon Well i hope for my money Microsoft give me a nice big shiney box for Vista with lots of pointless manuels that give it that expensive heavy feel.

After years of "naughty" versions of Windows feels weird to be looking forward to paying for the latest version.
 
ReanimationLP said:
Ouch.

400 smackers for Ultimate? :mad:

My wallet hurts.

With few added bucks and student's discount, you can buy a Mini with Leopard and iLife preinstalled in that amount, or iPod Video, or Xbox 360, or ..............I love my Mac ;)
 
prady16 said:
Whoz gonna "BUY" Vista....??
I am definitely not shelling out $250 odd dollars for WINDOWS VISTA!



Don't forget the additional $1000 that you will have to shell out for hardware that is capable of running Windoze Vista.
 
Come on guys, all of you saying the Vista is for $99, remember... that is the "upgrade" not the full install. where as osx is a complete full install. plus vista is suppose to be coming in 6 different version, i read something about that at here.
 
jaxstate said:
Yeah I know people who hacked Tiger and hacked Vista too, but most people will buy the OS. You don't make billions if no one is buying your product.

People wont bundle Vista with their products if MS will price the resellers with the same price points. Then, who'll buy Vista if not bundle buyers?
 
ZoomZoomZoom said:
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.

You can easily upgrade OS X from 10.1 straight to 10.5 (atleast 10.4), and if you can't, do a clean install because it's a same damn disk. Can you upgrade Win98 to Vista?

Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like.

People said the same thing about XP, but all it did was to take 2000/NT code back then, add few drivers and paint it ugly blue.
 
jaxstate said:
Run on a G3? How well. I use to have problems with the speed of Panther on my G4 iMac.

Tiger seems to run better than Panther on the G3 iMacs I have at home.

One is a 400mhz G3 with 320mb RAM and it runs fine with Tiger.

But, I have noticed Tiger runs crud™ on one of my friends 800mhz G4 iMacs.

How odd. :rolleyes:


The cost of Vista is very comparible to XP (especially at launch). But it is too much for a new verison of Windows. Especially since every reason to upgrade has been stripped out and slated to arrive in a "service pack" sometime later "this decade".
 
Update

Amazon has Vista available for Preorder at the above-mentioned prices
 
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ZoomZoomZoom said:
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.

Wow, not getting updates to your OS for half a decade is now an advantage is it?

And Windows users accuse Mac owners of being delusional!
 
I'm a bit on the bubble on this. It's cool that you can get the OS that you really need, but on the other side, this **** is going to confuse the hell out of non tech savvy people.
longofest said:
Amazon has Vista available for Preorder at the above-mentioned prices

They do updates, they are just free. No need for a full release for small add ons.:rolleyes:
aegisdesign said:
Wow, not getting updates to your OS for half a decade is now an advantage is it?

And Windows users accuse Mac owners of being delusional!
 
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AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
At that price, I hope Apple considers preinstalling Vista on its machines.

240 bucks for Boot Camp is ludacris, when you'll probably hardly use it anyway...

I don't really understand your logic. If Apple preinstalls Vista, they'll simply pass the cost on to you. Pre-installed does not equal free.
 
jaxstate said:
You don't make billions if no one is buying your product.

What if they don't have any choice but to buy your product? All of the Windows OEMs are instant customers for Vista, whether they like it or not. This is how the system works for Microsoft.
 
Sounds like a good system. A person can buy a dummy pc if they want, a linux box, or a Mac.
IJ Reilly said:
What if they don't have any choice but to buy your product? All of the Windows OEMs are instant customers for Vista, whether they like it or not. This is how the system works for Microsoft.
 
aegisdesign said:
Wow, not getting updates to your OS for half a decade is now an advantage is it?

And Windows users accuse Mac owners of being delusional!

There are updates, just free. Also, it's nice to be able to have to fiddle with the OS only once every half a decade. Updates don't matter that much, since if you're a mac user and using windows for gaming(and not job work), the windows interface doesn't matter at all. You'd be getting Vista in anticipation of a future laptop with a DX10 graphics card.
 
Those prices are just crazy... Who the %&## will pay $250-$400 for a Win OS??? Especially since you know you will need additional anti-virus/spyware...
If this is true, M$ just shot themselves in the foot. There are viable OS alternatives today that are both better and cheaper.
This could be the fat lady's que for her her swan song.
 
jaxstate said:
They do updates, they are just free. No need for a full release for small add ons.:rolleyes:

So nothing but small add ons for half a decade? That's still pretty sad.
 
I would pay 250. For somethings, Windows is the only viable OS. Like the commercial says, Macs are good for fun stuff, but PCs are for working.
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Those prices are just crazy... Who the %&## will pay $250-$400 for a Win OS??? Especially since you know you will need additional anti-virus/spyware...
If this is true, M$ just shot themselves in the foot. There are viable OS alternatives today that are both better and cheaper.
This could be the fat lady's que for her her swan song.
What are the other viable alternatives? OSX and ????????
 
jaxstate said:
Sounds like a good system. A person can buy a dummy pc if they want, a linux box, or a Mac.

You missed my point. Microsoft makes many of its billions by selling directly to OEMs, who have no choice but to buy the latest Windows OS from Microsoft. This insures that every one of Microsoft's OS releases is an automatic "success." They sell billions worth, no matter how undesirable it may be in reality.
 
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