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Windows Vista Pricing Leaked
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Ok, I see your point. But when does the consumer stand up and say "I DON'T WANT WINDOWS ON MY COMPUTER" and force the Dells to load something else besides Windows. If the OS was so undesirable, the consumer would have been up in arms. Dell sells computers with Linux preloaded, but I don't see Linux making any dent in anyones armor.
I'm going to stop, dont want be called a troll, just making convo.
IJ Reilly said:
I'm going to stop, dont want be called a troll, just making convo.
Macrumors said:
Yesterday, Microsoft inadvertantly released the pricing of its upcoming OS called Vista on their Canadian website. The prices were picked up by the NeoWin blog and are also neatly layed out at Wikipedia.
Vista Home Premium will retail for $239, with upgrades available for $159. Additional licenses will be available for discounts as well. Vista Home Premium edition has evolved from XP Professional, Media Center, and Tablet product lines, and probably is also the edition which can most closely be compared to Mac OS X.
Many comparisons have been made between Vista and Mac OS X, and with many expecting Apple to continue its pricing tradition of $129 for Leopard (Mac OS 10.5), further comparisons can be made on price as well.
All prices in USD
Not disputing the veracity of the article, but Neowin isn't a blog. It's a tech site, founded in 2000, and forum with over 150,000 members and 6+ million posts. There are also many of us, including staff members, who have switched to Apple.
LINUX? Besides I use my Mac for my reasearch since I cant afford having M$ screwing me one more time. If you need 100% stability and security (as some professionals do) you go with with the safest system out there... and that my friend is NOT Win XP.jaxstate said:
jaxstate said:Yeah, only take that portion of my statement andto it.
You've got to admit, you kind of deserve that response, if you going to cite a commercial to back up your argument.
jaxstate said:
I shall (briefly) ponder the wisdom of your words when I'm putting in a 10-hour day tomorrow on the Mac.
I think the prices of Windows and OSX are quite the same. You can buy a new version of OSX more frequently for a lower price per each version, or buy a new version of Windows once and pay more for it but receive free updates/service packs for years. The yearly costs are quite the same.
I had a response all typed up and decided your original statement says more than I ever could to support my side of the argument.jaxstate said:Yeah, only take that portion of my statement and
drewyboy said:
That is also a misleading statement.
Apple doesn't offer upgrades to OS X. Windows does! Most people don't need a complete new install. Most people already have XP.
The only time a full version is needed is when a new computer is purchased and then the price for Vista is completely different because of the OEM pricing by the vendor.
Also just because you have the upgrade version doesn't mean you can't do a clean full install. In most cases Windows in the past only required that a previous version be present or that a legal original install cd was present. It performs the check and then does a full install.
teme said:
Service packs aren't really upgrades, they are mainly bug fixes, security updates and minor feature amendments -- and even they come only infrequently (two service packs for XP in five years). Apple provides the same thing for free, and more regularly. Each of the decimal upgrades to OSX have been far more significant than either of the XP service packs.
I don't understand why anyone would want to turn Microsoft's plodding into a virtue. It's as though giving your customers less value for more money is a good thing.
Blue Velvet said:
OS X vs. Windows for work argument depends on your work.
Many industries do not have a versions of their software or database apps that run on OS X. Unfortunately, I happen to work for one of them. My industry has thousands of software packages, none of which run on OS X. I am not alone. In fact I would bet that >80% of businesses today run some software which will not run in OS X.
Being able to run Vista on a Mac is a lifesaver for me.
digitalbiker said:
Not so much "different" as hidden from the ultimate consumer.
I think you're also forgetting that the current version of OSX is included with every Mac.
It's really amazing to see here people justifying the price of Windows Vista, when not even corporations think about migrating to the "new" OS in 2-years time...Vista is just a rehashed NT, and no company will need it in the short term.
BRLawyer said:
Corporations have many more factors to consider prior to updating than the general consumer. Price is only one of the many factors. In many cases the sticker price of the OS itself is the least restrictive factor when considering upgrading for a corporation.
Chundles said:
jaxstate said:
As I've heard from those who've actually used Vista, Aero is the only reason to install it (thus far at least). Home Basic does not include Aero.
Assuming my Windows-using companions are correct, Home Basic thusly has nothing to offer. Hence, it is crap.
Q.E.D.
-Clive
IJ Reilly said:
Well it is hidden and it is different. I guarantee you that Dell doesn't pay the same price you do when they purchase a resale license for Vista from MS.
Also OSX is included with every Mac but it is the same situation. Apple has to mark up the hardware by some increment for the cost of the OS. I have no idea what Apple's internal pricing is for OS X but it has some value.
I think you're right about that - it even gave me a headache trying to decide between XP Home and XP Pro when I was considering bootcamping my PC, and I'm an experienced user who's used every version of Windows except for 98, Me and MCE.SpaceMagic said:
In the end I decided to wait for VMWare and get an image from work ... I only need Windows for to check my code on it and don't need it to be really fast.
Release date
I don't think I've seen anyone else mention it but Amazon lists a release date:
Now, I KNOW that date is likely to get changed, but interesting anyway.
Second, has anyone else here used the public beta? I haven't seen any comments on it in the first 3 pages, but let me tell you...it sucks! I had to take it off my PC that I am using until my MacPro arrives and went back to XP.
From my experience, Vista Beta is full of bugs and issues. Yes, I know it is still a Beta, but if it is slated for a Jan 30 release, they have a lot of work to do.
I still don't know why the average person would change from XP to Vista--it doesn't look that different and doesn't offer much more to the average websurfer/emailer.
Just my $0.02. I'm glad I made the switch back to Mac after a 10 year absence.
--HG
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MacPro 2.66 BTO en route, should be here Thursday!
I don't think I've seen anyone else mention it but Amazon lists a release date:
Now, I KNOW that date is likely to get changed, but interesting anyway.
Second, has anyone else here used the public beta? I haven't seen any comments on it in the first 3 pages, but let me tell you...it sucks! I had to take it off my PC that I am using until my MacPro arrives and went back to XP.
From my experience, Vista Beta is full of bugs and issues. Yes, I know it is still a Beta, but if it is slated for a Jan 30 release, they have a lot of work to do.
I still don't know why the average person would change from XP to Vista--it doesn't look that different and doesn't offer much more to the average websurfer/emailer.
Just my $0.02. I'm glad I made the switch back to Mac after a 10 year absence.
--HG
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MacPro 2.66 BTO en route, should be here Thursday!
jaxstate said:
i think that that used to be the case, but no longer. back when w2k and xp was released, linux wasn't ?ready?. for experts, yes, but not normal folks. over the last two years that changed dramatically.. and over the last few years i have seen linux pop up in oddest places, like in an internet -terminals in hotels. previously they ran windows.
looking at features, windows is way behind linux, vista included. and looking at apps, windows doesn't offer anything that linux doesn't, for free. well, maybe games.