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And this is why I use the Classic option at work. XP is ugly, Longhorn/Vista is ugly. 2000 is tolerable. I won't be upgrading my PC past Win2000. As it is, if my next Mac is powerful enough to run VPC at a decent rate, my PC will be relagated to a file server. I can't believe I was actually looking forward to Whistler back in the day. I'm even more disappointed with Vista than I was with XP. This isn't revolutionary, it's barely evolutionary.
 
taeclee99 said:
What is this world coming to??? Dvorak writing some nice things about the mac? Next thing you know, Ron Enderle will be praising the mac as well.
It's Rob, and now that they're going Intel, he is.
 
this is actually a pretty decent advancment from the last batch I saw. It's still windows but it seems to be alot more seemless than it was b4.
 
Maybe I'm just overanalyzing this, but take a look:

the top is the taskbar from Vista, and on the bottom is the menu bar from Tiger (increased contrast to enhance detail). The only difference seems to be the color.
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zakatov said:
the top is the taskbar from Vista, and on the bottom is the menu bar from Tiger (increased contrast to enhance detail). The only difference seems to be the color.


Microsoft have copied far more fundamental things than this. I don't think we can really make anything of their 'rounding off' of their bars though. However, if it was brushed metal...
 
barneygumble said:
at least they made games easier to get to now i will do nothing all day, damn GIS software and powersuite software it is evil wont let me switch

Damn ESRI to hell!
 
Open Letter to Apple Computer

Dear Apple Computer,

I am writing this letter to thank you for saving me from horrible GUIs. I have recently seen screanshots of the Windows Vista Beta 1 and, althought it is an improvment over Windows XP, I must say it still leaves a lot to be desired.

Keep up the good work on OS X! At least when I come home from work my eyes can have a rest from all the ugliness that is Windows.

Sincerely,

Michael Arnold
 
Raven VII said:
No, I hate it even more in Windows 2000/Me/98/95. In THAT, functionality sucks. The redesigned one in XP is actually useful.
you can set the visual style in xp independent of the start menu. i have classic look with xp start menu.
i dont especially find these builds ugly, but from what i've seen/heard about longhorn so far i see no reason to spend ~$100 to upgrade from xp.
 

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it still draws enough inspiration for me to want to vomit. Windows "wannabeOSX-2005"

Raven VII - your comments made me laugh to the point of tears, I couldn't agree more.
 
I think it looks fine. Why are Mac users expecting some HUGE leap in looks. OS X hasn't really made any leaps since Jaguar, hell even since Puma. It's going to be what's under the hood that really counts.
 
The black Start menu and toolbar is really bad looking.

And why are the folders sideways. Maybe thats why your files disappear on your PC. Everything falls out.
 
Did anyone notice the similarity of Windows Vista and VidaLinux (desktop.vidalinux.com)??
Especially in terms of the title bar close/maximize/minimize buttons...

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VidaLinux
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Dr. No said:
Did anyone notice the similarity of Windows Vista and VidaLinux (desktop.vidalinux.com)??
Especially in terms of the title bar close/maximize/minimize buttons...

Yeah, no kidding, but I have the feeling that VLOS hasn't been around that long, since it's like Mac OS X and Windows smashed together.

These screenshots aren't too exciting, at least they aren't as exciting as when we get new screenshots of what Apple's working on. Even though Apple does internal stuff, they always manage to show off something in the interface arena. I feel like Microsoft's showing off their ass, and it ain't purty.
-Chase
 
Wow!! I can`t belive it has taken them this long to do that. While it is not ``ugly`` i really don`t like the look when compared to OSX. NOt to mention that we have had a couple of OS updates while microsoft has failed to put out a new one. You can`t work on a new OS taht long and come up with something like that. I would all most be happier if they delayed Vista from coming out and actualy put something in t that is worth while.

I for one HATE the Start menu. It like lets see how far i can get it to extend over my screen.

Not to mention Windows XP, and the previews of Vista for that matter, just don`t hold a candle to the way OSX looks. And apple has been doing this for a couple years.

God bless apple!!!!!!!
 
dsharits said:
If I wanted to see that many programs in OS X, I could open the Apps folder and see all of my apps better than the All Programs menu faster than you can bring up the All Programs menu in the start bar, in the same number of clicks. The Dock allows you to put only the apps that you want within easy reach, and it leaves them all in plain view, instead of having to click a button in the corner and having a panel open and consume a large porion of the screen while you pick what you want to launch. The Recent Items menu gives you a far bigger selection of recent apps than the Start Menu. Is it not frustrating when you are used to having a program in the short list, but on one out of the ordinary day, you happen to open a program or two more than usual, and the one that you like having in the short list disappears and you have to go and open it in the cluttered All Programs menu? Even more, what if you want to keep list of all of your programs open in the background? You can't do that with the Start Menu. Nor can you drag files onto an application's icon and have it open under that application. I'm sorry, but for someone who likes to move around the OS quickly and know exactly where everything is, the Start Menu just isn't the best solution.

As far as "access to core features for configuring the OS" being "annoyingly absent", what's wrong with using the System Preferences icon in the Dock? If the average user needs to do anything more than what's in System Preferences, he can simply put whatever other apps he needs in the dock.

It's called a Quicklaunch bar, dude.
 
Ohh God ...

Thank you for Tiger.

I'll keep my eye on Vista but as it looks now, i wouldn't touch it with a barge poll.
 
All the features listed on the originally-linked-to page are already in OSX. It would really be sad for Microsoft to delay this long and have nothing groundbreaking to show for it.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
From a visual point of view, Vista looks like a minor re-skin, nothing more.

...But what's under the hood?

Um, not much. Iridium and WinFS were pulled for Longhorn-- er Vista.
 
When longhorn was first announced it seemed like OS X and linux might actually have to work harder to beat it, but not anymore. Windows Vista officially sucks.
 
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Windows should be trying to figure out why Microsoft isn't responding :confused:.

Surely there must be more than this! Maybe they're just doing a better job keeping the look and features secret than we think they are.
 
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