Wired dumps on OCD and irrational iPhone owners

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  1. hasanahmad, Oct 12, 2015
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    hasanahmad macrumors 65816

    May 20, 2009

    So what’s the brouhaha all about, you ask? Well, Apple tapped two different partners to manufacture the A9 processor that is the brain of the iPhone 6S and 6S Plus. The horror! What’s more, those vendors used different manufacturing processes, resulting in an A9 from TSMC that is ever so slightly bigger than the A9 from Samsung.

    As you might expect, the Internet has gone absolutely bananas over this. A handful of anonymous forum members recently reported that iPhone 6S and 6S Plus handsets with Samsung inside have shown significantly worse battery life when running Geekbench, a popular processor benchmarking app. The fracas quickly moved beyond Apple forums and Reddit comments, spreading like a contagion from obscure tech blogs through the interwebs to esteemed generalist publications like The Guardian. The takeaway seems to be that there are “good” iPhones and “bad” iPhones.

    The Apple Statement

    “With the Apple-designed A9 chip in your iPhone 6s or iPhone 6s Plus, you are getting the most advanced smartphone chip in the world. Every chip we ship meets Apple’s highest standards for providing incredible performance and deliver great battery life, regardless of iPhone 6s capacity, color, or model.

    Certain manufactured lab tests which run the processors with a continuous heavy workload until the battery depletes are not representative of real-world usage, since they spend an unrealistic amount of time at the highest CPU performance state. It’s a misleading way to measure real-world battery life. Our testing and customer data show the actual battery life of the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, even taking into account variable component differences, vary within just 2-3% of each other.”
    That first paragraph doesn’t help much, unless you’re on Apple’s marketing team. The second, though, says quite a bit. Apple is arguing that even if GeekBench shows a wide performance gap, that has little to no bearing on real-world usage. Apple is correct.

    GeekBench is plenty helpful, but it’s typically used to measure processor performance, not battery life (though the two are obviously associated). As such, it works by putting more sustained strain on the SoC than you would in an average day of web browsing, app refreshing, and Candy Crushing. That can make small differences in performance appear much larger when extrapolated out over an eight hour battery life.

    There’s an exception to this. People who game intensively for hours on end will push their CPUs harder than an average user, in which case those hypothetical differences may become noticeable. Even then, though, it doesn’t appear that anyone has actually shared an example of it happening in real life. It’s all just anonymized software estimates. And even if someone did show real-world variance, it’s impossible to know whether it’s that specific chip, or the fab it came from. We’re right back where we started.

    The only way to know what kind of real-world performance the iPhone puts out in the aggregate is to collect that data from a huge quantity of units, and the only company that’s done so is Apple (thanks to the “Diagnostics & Usage Data” it collects from those who opt in) and Apple’s on record that the differences are negligible. Frankly, there’s not much further to take this.

  2. AintDutchNotMuch macrumors regular


    Sep 14, 2015
    The Netherlands
    Thank you so much for this information. Now I'll finally be able to sleep peacefully.
  3. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    Now maybe the mods could move all these chip thread into one big one!
  4. redman042 macrumors 68030


    Jun 13, 2008
    Thank you Wired for bringing some sanity to the discussion.

    However I anticipate it will take some time for the fracas to die down, and I wouldn't want to be an Apple Store employee right now with all the ill-informed angry customers coming in demanding TSMC chipped phones.

    In the meantime, I'll be enjoying the heck out of my 6S+ which happens to have a Samsung chip, and I will be using it heavily.
  5. eyoungren, Oct 12, 2015
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    eyoungren macrumors Core


    Aug 31, 2011
    ten-zero-eleven-zero-zero by zero-two
    Well…not even Wired is helping much here. They list the N66maP chip as being Samsung for the 6s+. That's incorrect, it's the TSMC chip (by all the research I've noticed).

    If you're going to try and calm the raving iPhone public down get your info straight. :rolleyes:
  6. blue2k2s2k macrumors newbie

    Sep 23, 2015
    ...Ha....now wouldn't that be hilarious, if in fact Wired has the correct information and the N66maP is Samsung.........
  7. eyoungren macrumors Core


    Aug 31, 2011
    ten-zero-eleven-zero-zero by zero-two
    That might be, LOL!

    I don't really care. I had no clue about this from the beginning, doesn't matter. My iPhone is performing and that's all I care about.

    That said, I do care about the facts being correct even if they don't have any impact on my situation. :D
  8. asleep macrumors 68040


    Sep 26, 2007
    Yep, looks like Wired 'dumped' on itself. Next.
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