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bushman4

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after seeing Wattup in Vegas and reading several articles (Barrons &WSJ) it appears that the wireless long distance charging is not ready as yet. Barrons article goes as far as saying it might be unsafe. And Apple isn't going to take any chances especially after the Samsung fireball
If we get it that would be a big plus but it certainly doesn't seem that way
Wattup is a unique company and it's possible they might come do it.......I hope so
 
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The Game 161

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The company even said its coming in 2017 and itbso happens to be when Apple are said to include wireless charging
 

Applefan4515

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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?
 

Applejuiced

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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?

I agree, its more of a gimmick feature than a must have.
That wouldn't make me upgrade or purchase a device based on that feature.
 

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after seeing Wattup in Vegas and reading several articles (Barrons &WSJ) it appears that the wireless long distance charging is not ready as yet. Barrons article goes as far as saying it might be unsafe. And Apple isn't going to take any chances especially after the Samsung fireball
If we get it that would be a big plus but it certainly doesn't seem that way
Wattup is a unique company and it's possible they might come do it.......I hope so

I'm in no rush for wireless charging. Even if it was released in 2017, I'm sure would have plenty of restrictions before It can fully expand to its full potential. That said, Apple is known to take their time in making sure something is completed to their standards and separate themselves from other competitors. But I personally am not entirely interested in wireless charging until It entices me.
 

C DM

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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?
Essentially the same kind of "special" as not using a key to open your car doors for example. What's the deal with that? ;)
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I would not want it either. If I need to use my phone while charging, I use my long belkin cable. Works great! I fully agree it's a gimmick as @Applejuiced said.
Fairly certain you could still do that if you wanted to as you could still plug the phone in too.
 

CTHarrryH

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And it would give Apple an excuse for eliminating all the ports on a phone -

I could see some advantage to it - in some circumstances - put your phone down on a mat while doing something else. BUT I'd want both wired and wireless.
 

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I think we will get wireless charging capabilities. You will have the option to buy a wireless charging pad for $39 dollars.
 

Applejuiced

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Essentially the same kind of "special" as not using a key to open your car doors for example. What's the deal with that? ;)
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Fairly certain you could still do that if you wanted to as you could still plug the phone in too.

I kinda like the new thing with the cars that you dont need to stick the key anywhere to start the car. It just needs to be somewhere inside the car.
What is it called intelligent key system or something like that?
 

C DM

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I kinda like the new thing with the cars that you dont need to stick the key anywhere to start the car. It just needs to be somewhere inside the car.
What is it called intelligent key system or something like that?
And that's even beyond just being able to unlock or lock the car without the use of a key and just a press of a button. Wireless charging is fairly similar as far as convenience type of concept goes.
 

Freakonomics101

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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?

I 1,000% agree. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks wireless charging is a waste of time and money.

But why do I have a feeling that Apple is eventually going to remove the charging port and just make everything wireless? I definitely don't expect or want it to be happening anytime in the near future, but you never know. Apple would seriously have to come up with a solution for that, but it would piss off a lot of people.... more than this headphone jack debate.
 

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I agree, its more of a gimmick feature than a must have.
That wouldn't make me upgrade or purchase a device based on that feature.
A gimmick until Apple makes it a feature.

This is coming from the same company that is pushing for $159 AirPods (wireless headphone listening) and pushes for USB-C on MacBooks but not for iPhone 7 when Android flagships from last year like the HTC 10 and LG G5 already have it.

Apple user: "Gee, I don't need OLED curved displays and wireless charging. Just a gimmick."

After Apple adds them like they added water-resistance on iPhones after 3.5 years since the Xperia Z made it mainstream for flagships.

Apple user: "Shut up and take my money!"

Apple removes features like headphone jack, USB-A, SD slot.

Apple user: "Never needed it anyway. Don't miss it. Buy a dongle!"

As long as it is shiny and new, just follow Apple's courageous future like lemmings ready to fall off a cliff. Baaad :apple:.
 

Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
And that's even beyond just being able to unlock or lock the car without the use of a key and just a press of a button. Wireless charging is fairly similar as far as convenience type of concept goes.

I hear you.
It would suck if you had to put the car key fob only on a certain small mat or area for it perform such tasks though.
If the wireless charging worked in a similar way where it could charge within so many feet from the base area it would be great.
Maybe something to look forward to later.
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A gimmick until Apple makes it a feature.

This is coming from the same company that is pushing for $159 AirPods (wireless headphone listening) and pushes for USB-C on MacBooks but not for iPhone 7 when Android flagships from last year like the HTC 10 and LG G5 already have it.

Apple user: "Gee, I don't need OLED curved displays and wireless charging. Just a gimmick."

After Apple adds them like they added water-resistance on iPhones after 3.5 years since the Xperia Z made it mainstream for flagships.

Apple user: "Shut up and take my money!"

Apple removes features like headphone jack, USB-A, SD slot.

Apple user: "Never needed it anyway. Don't miss it. Buy a dongle!"

As long as it is shiny and new, just follow Apple's courageous future like lemmings ready to fall off a cliff. Baaad :apple:.

It might work with some people I agree.
I personally wouldn't go for wireless charging the way it is now and Im not buying $160 wireless airpods either :D
The iphone never had usb a or sd slot so not sure where you see them removing those things.
Apple will never put usb-c on the iphone/ipads/ipod touch/nano in general. They make lots of money with having their own proprietary plug and they will not ditch their own wires to put an open standard plug for obvious reasons of tight control and financial gain.
 
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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?
I agree.

Wireless charging in its current state is just a gimmick.

A wireless charging pad takes up more desktop or countertop real estate than just the device in question and a cord. If the wireless charging system isn't close to the speed of wired charging, that's also another minus point.

Worse, some recent wireless charging solutions are extremely fussy, requiring careful placement of the device on the charger. Apple won't do that. I can charge my phone face up, face down, or upright in a car cradle. The phone doesn't care about its orientation while it is charging.

It needs to be some sort of wireless charging "zone" so you don't have to worry about the device orientation or placement. For Joe Consumer wireless charging probably needs to be 90% as fast as wired charging.

Until the technology is more mature, it makes more sense for Apple to focus on energy efficiency and battery performance rather than wireless charging. Better to have a phone that lasts sixteen hours on one charge than a phone that last twelve hours and can be charged wirelessly.
 
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colodane

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I don't understand all the hype either. While it looks slick at first glance, it is less efficient in terms of energy transfer than an old-fashioned cord is.

I keep an Apple charger plugged in in my office at all times with a cable right on the desktop for easy charging of any iDevice.

When traveling, a regular Apple charger is smaller and more portable than a wireless charger would be.
 

akash.nu

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The exciting thing will be if they introduce the truly wireless charging technology that they filed a patent for a couple of years ago. You don't need a mat or anything. The phone gets charged as soon as it comes to close proximity with your mac.
 
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Closingracer

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I agree, its more of a gimmick feature than a must have.
That wouldn't make me upgrade or purchase a device based on that feature.

As someone who actually use Android phones with it...... It's far from a gimmick. Cars like the Chevy camaro ( depending on if you buy the option) has mats inside the car to charge devices wireless. Starbucks offer wireless charging on their tables as well. I had a Tylt wireless charging dock which had the phone slanted and just made it easier to use as an alarm.
 
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Closingracer

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I agree.

Wireless charging in its current state is just a gimmick.

A wireless charging pad takes up more desktop or countertop real estate than just the device in question and a cord. If the wireless charging system isn't close to the speed of wired charging, that's also another minus point.

Worse, some recent wireless charging solutions are extremely fussy, requiring careful placement of the device on the charger. Apple won't do that. I can charge my phone face up, face down, or upright in a car cradle. The phone doesn't care about its orientation while it is charging.

It needs to be some sort of wireless charging "zone" so you don't have to worry about the device orientation. It needs to work regardless of the device orientation. For Joe Consumer wireless charging probably needs to be 90% as fast as wired charging.

Until the technology is more mature, it makes more sense for Apple to focus on energy efficiency and battery performance rather than wireless charging. Better to have a phone that lasts sixteen hours on one charge than a phone that last twelve hours and can be charged wirelessly.

Have any of you actually used these phone with it or you're all assuming? The nexus 5 and the wireless charging mat that you can buy from Google for that phone it had magnets and it would kind of slide into the right place to charge. The tylt base I had you pretty much can just lay it down and it will charge it no matter which position you put it on as long as the back was facing it.
 

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The exciting thing will be if they introduce the truly wireless charging technology that they filed a patent for a couple of years ago. You don't need a mat or anything. The phone gets charged as soon as it comes to close proximity with your mac.

Sounds like you would need to buy a new MAC also as there is nothing is today's MACs that will charge a phone wirelessly.
 
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akash.nu

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Sounds like you would need to buy a new MAC also as there is nothing is today's MACs that will charge a phone wirelessly.

Apparently it works with existing wireless technology. So macs with 802.11 n should be fine. But I forgot the actual technical specifications to be honest. Look it up. In theory it does sound awesome.
 

Type4O

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What's the big deal about wireless charging anyways? At least in the state it is today? Put your phone on a mat and it charges without plugging your phone in? What's so special about that? You still have a cord on the mat going to the wall. You can't use the phone while it's charging unless you tap on it while it's lying there. Which especially if your in bed isn't all that great. Is it really that inconvienent to just unplug the phone from the cable?

I have just ordered a wireless charging kit for my 6. Plugs don't stay in anymore. I plug my phone in and the cable keeps slipping out just enough to appear like it is plugged in, but isn't connecting properly. With the wireless charging kit, I should be able to charge my phone properly, at least until the 8 comes out and I can replace my 6, which has been dropped so many times it's a wonder it is still working at all.
 

akash.nu

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I have just ordered a wireless charging kit for my 6. Plugs don't stay in anymore. I plug my phone in and the cable keeps slipping out just enough to appear like it is plugged in, but isn't connecting properly. With the wireless charging kit, I should be able to charge my phone properly, at least until the 8 comes out and I can replace my 6, which has been dropped so many times it's a wonder it is still working at all.

Sounds to me like there's a lot of lint gathered in the charging port. Have you tried to look inside?
 
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