Wireless Charging Looks to Go Mainstream in 2015

[Keirasplace]

Exactly. After getting the Nexus 7 2013 just for fun (because of the unbeatable price) while still using my iPads as main tablets, I quickly fell in love with Qi.

Wireless charging was one of the (many) reasons I've gone for the Note 4 (with the S-View Qi flip case) instead of the much-much less capable iPhone 6. It's so much easier to just put the phone on the charger surface instead of having to plug in the cable.

You lost me at "much less capable"... Since supposedly Qi charging was a major reason for deciding when it was not. Format your rhetorical argument properly next time...

That you even consider The Iphone 6 as a lesser phone means your whole story here is totally fabricated.

 

[selfsilent]

The main problem I can see with any wireless charging is, when it gets on the iPhone, we are going to get Fandroids "welcoming us to last decade" and all that BS. Even though their systems are inefficient, expensive and rarely used.

 

[ctdonath]

Any word on interference with pacemakers? While I like the idea of wireless charging, the thought of it interacting with my internal wiring is...disturbing.

 

[Menneisyys2]

You lost me at "much less capable"... Since supposedly Qi charging was a major reason for deciding when it was not. Format your rhetorical argument properly next time...

That you even consider The Iphone 6 as a lesser phone means your whole story here is totally fabricated.

I know you're one of the biggest, dedicated Apple enthusiasts here (along with, say, Max(IT)), still let me ask you the following questions:

Where's the 4K video? Where's the OIS in the on-Plus iPhone6? Where's the stereo audio recording? Where's the dual camera support (something essential for social shooting)? Where's the USB OTG support? Where is the memory card shot? Where's the replaceable battery? Where's the as-large-as-possible screen? Where's the as-small-as-possible bezel? Where's the standard(!) Wacom pen support? Where's the built-in multiwindow multitasking?

And yes, where's the Qi charging?

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The main problem I can see with any wireless charging is, when it gets on the iPhone, we are going to get Fandroids "welcoming us to last decade" and all that BS. Even though their systems are inefficient, expensive and rarely used.

Lolz... you have never used a Qi charger, have you? Otherwise, you wouldn't be spreading BS.

FYI: via Qi, recharging both the Note4 and the N7 2013, if you don't use additional cases, is as fast as via wire.

 

[Old Muley]

Didn't JP Morgan burn down Tesla's facility which was trying demonstrate wireless electricity. If it can't be controlled and metered, it can't be charged for.

Nikola Tesla was 20 years ahead of his time... 100 years ago.

 

[Aetles]

Prediction.

Apple comes out with its own flavor of wireless charging that doesn't work with anything else.

It's not unlikely, especially if Apple thinks that their solution is better.

But on the other hand, Apple Pay was a welcome use of existing standard NFC terminals instead of building an entirely separate hardware. Not the same thing as charging, but still. Maybe maybe…

 

[LordVic]

Will it give everyone cancer like power lines do? Maybe it'll just erase all your credit cards and hard drives.

I love this Myth.

When i was a kid, we moved into a house that had a powerline corridor behind it (about 1/2 a km, so not even that close!). My mother, being Neurotic as usual asked my Uncle (who worked for the powercompany) if there was any risk.

he told my mother that they pose as much risk as having an alarm clock next to your bed.

My mom made us all move our alarm clocks to the other side of the room.

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Nikola Tesla was 20 years ahead of his time... 100 years ago.

Acrtually, Tesla didn't just demonstrate wireless power, he also demonstrated the ability to generate electricity from thin air!

http://inhabitat.com/researchers-one-step-closer-to-capturing-electricity-out-of-thin-air/

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The main problem I can see with any wireless charging is, when it gets on the iPhone, we are going to get Fandroids "welcoming us to last decade" and all that BS. Even though their systems are inefficient, expensive and rarely used.

WELCOME TO LAST YEAR BUDDY! I"VE HAD WIRELESSS CHARGING SINCE I WAS SPAT FORTH FRO...

no no, ok, all seriousness, this "who was first" from both sides is just self graitification.

I'm glad ANYONE came first because it means that it was invented and then everyone can benefit, and everyone can advance it!

I have the N5 and the wireless charger and it is fantastic. I don't want to go back to having to plug in my phone. For me it was a "checkbox" that stopped me from getting the iPhone6 (one of a couple, I do still drool over it though).

its not perfect though. Having to have your device perfectly lined up on a tiny little block of plastic doesn't really change the fact that you still need your device to be 'touching' or 'connected'. I'd like to see wireless charging advance to the point that theres a good radius around that can supply the phone power no matter the orientation

 

[stewy]

I've got wires everywhere I spend time, cost $3 bucks, and charges much faster. My cables are also long enough to charge while I'm using it, which I do quite often while I'm sitting down at home or even at work. That'S why I can still use a 5.5 year old 3GS.

I suppose this is nice to some, but for me, it seems utterly pointless in the current guise.

But even if you had the latest iPhone you'd still need all of the cables. I'm not sure what the 3GS has to do with anything.

This might be one of those things that you need to use to get on board with.

 

[monster620ie]

So when you have an MRI done, doesn't the technician run away to a safe room? So how are you saying MRI is safe then?

Any health studies ?

Are there any health studies on WIFI ? Curious to know the effects.

 

[ClemsonDV]

Does nobody see the issue of... this charging unit is way less efficient than the standard plug in. Directly into your device.... saves time, saves money.

This unit will be wirelessly charging at all times, and that means... energy bill will sky rocket. When devices aren't in range...you are still outputting energy thus you are paying for it.

 

[mdelvecchio]

I love how, before Apple adopts it, it's not mainstream. And as soon as Apple starts using it, it's "mainstream".

I've had wireless charging in my cellphone for over 2 years, and console's have been doing it for even longer. It's already mainstream, and most non-Apple high-end cellphones already have it as an option.

not mainstream.

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Like large screen phones, BluRay, USB 3, notifications, and things like that?

how about desktop computing for normal americans (1970s), GUI computing ('80s), desktop publishing ('80s), USB and wifi ('90s) smartphones ('00s), tablet computing ('10s), etc... all made mainstream by apple.

largescreen androids and android notifications only exist because of iphone coming first and them cloning it.

 

[Menneisyys2]

not mainstream.

For Apple f..., sorry, let's not use the 'easily-get-banned-for-it-word' enthusiasts maybe. For people not considering Jobs and Cook the Second coming of Jesus, not.

 

[laurim]

Knowing Apple, they will develop a proprietary solution and then charge more.

Possibly. But it will also work better and be more reliable.

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So when you have an MRI done, doesn't the technician run away to a safe room? So how are you saying MRI is safe then?

Any health studies ?

Are there any health studies on WIFI ? Curious to know the effects.

Isn't that because you have to have zero metal on you to be in the same room?

Considering all the electronics and electricity in general we are surrounded by on a constant basis, I don't know why this would be a big deal. I'm sure we all do other things that are worse for our health. Besides, most cancer is random anyway.

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Does nobody see the issue of... this charging unit is way less efficient than the standard plug in. Directly into your device.... saves time, saves money.

This unit will be wirelessly charging at all times, and that means... energy bill will sky rocket. When devices aren't in range...you are still outputting energy thus you are paying for it.

I'm not sure that would be true. That's like saying all the empty outlets in my house are using electricity. I assume the base station turns itself off when there is no draw (or is at a tiny standby state to detect when something that needs charging is near).

 

[LordVic]

For Apple f..., sorry, let's not use the 'easily-get-banned-for-it-word' enthusiasts maybe. For people not considering Jobs and Cook the Second coming of Jesus, not.

i'm no fan.. thing...

I wouldn't call wireless charging mainstream yet. Whie it's an option on the odd device, it is still not a universally accepted standard on most new devices. Untill that happens and there's mass adoption by manufacturers, it's not quite there yet. We're still in it's infancy

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Possibly. But it will also work better and be more reliable.

arent you cute , just because it has an apple logo on it diesn't automatically make anything "better". if you want the better title. Earn it. Apple has failed on some of their "improvements in the past", and been wildly successful on some. Blindly accepting it because a logo is really, really. REALLY laughable.

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I'm not sure that would be true. That's like saying all the empty outlets in my house are using electricity. I assume the base station turns itself off when there is no draw (or is at a tiny standby state to detect when something that needs charging is near).

All chargers while plugged in, even if they're not charging your device do draw some amount of current. Empty outlets? no, because no circuit is completed. But most chargers these days will always have a completed circuit in them even if a device is not plugged in. This would be no different if it's a wireless base station or direct plug.

The question is (Can't answer, cause I'm not going to bother looking for it), is how much. its above 0 though\

 

[Menneisyys2]

Whie it's an option on the odd device, it is still not a universally accepted standard on most new devices.

Well, don't expect low-end ones to incorporate "luxury" stuff like Qi - in this regard, it's indeed not that common. However, a lot of flagships do have Qi on both Android and Windows Phone. And it's the flagships that the geeks go for, not $40 throw-away phones.

 

[hleewell]

Great, yet another magnetic field in my life. Is all the EM out there good for us?....the experiment continues.

It is too late to worry about it now. Try getting rid of your cellphone for a day.

 

[AlecZ]

I used to charge Galaxy S4 with a NFC charger few years back along with Nokia Lumia 920...They sold a charger pad as additional accessory.

You need to get a special back cover on the phone, right?

 

[TallManNY]

What is left to charge? There can never be enough charge. I can very heavily drain my late-2014 MacBook in just a few hours, and prior to that when I used my iPhone 6 as my primary device it would only last because I could charge it while driving to and fro. I even carry a constantly charged battery pack in my car for those days where I have to step away from my normal outlets.

Wow. You must hammer your devices with some serious usage. My 6 easily lasts through the day. My laptop will make it through the weekend without breaking a sweat.

Maybe in a couple of years they will make devices that can keep up with you.

 

[jonnysands]

Citation needed. Let's read them then.

I'll take DOI's or direct links.

There are some concerning studies on the matter of electromagnetic fields (and high power radio waves), although there is undoubtedly disagreement amongst scientists. Some examples below, sorry don't have links for all but you can probably find copies by Googling the titles:

1. Phillips JL, Singh NP, Lai H. Electromagnetic fields and DNA damage. Pathophysiology. 2009; 16: 79-88.

2. Xu S, Zhou Z, Zhang L, et al. Exposure to 1800 MHZ radiofrequency radiation induces oxidative damage to mitochondrial DNA in primary cultured neurons. Brain Research. 2010; 1311: 189-196.

3. Ruediger HW. Genotoxic effects of radiofrequency electromagnetic fields. Pathophysiology. 2009; 16(2): 89-102.

4. Lee S, Johnson D, Dunbar K. 2.45 GHz radiofrequency fields alter gene expression on cultured human cells. FEBS Letters. 2005; 579: 4829-4836.

5. Demsia G, Vlastos D, Matthopoulos DP. Effect of 910-MHz electromagnetic field on rat bone marrow. The Scientific World Journal. 2004; 4(S2): 48-54.

6. Lai H, Singh NP. Magnetic-field-induced DNA strand breaks in brain cells of the rat. Environmental Health Perspectives. 2004; 112(6): 687-694. Available from: http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info:doi/10.1289/ehp.6355

7.Magras IN, Xenos TD. RF radiation-induced changes in the prenatal development of mice. Bioelectromagnetics. 1997; 18:455-461.

8. Mashevich M, Foldman D, Kesar, et al. Exposure of human peripheral blood lymphocytes to electromagnetic fields associated with cellular phones leads to chromosomal instability. Bioelectromagnetics. 2003; 24: 82-90.

9. Ban R, Grosse Y, Lauby-Secretan B, et al. Carcinogenicity of radiofrequency electromagnetic fields. The Lancet Oncology. 2011; 12(7): 624-626. Available from: https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.c...47-4/fulltext?_eventId=login&code=lancet-site

10. Rea WJ, Pan Y, Fenyves EJ, et al. Electromagnetic field sensitivity. Journal of Bioelectricity. 1991; 10(1 &2): 243-256.

11. Del Giudice E, De Ninno A, Fleischmann, et al. Coherent quantum electrodynamics in living matter. Electromagn. Biol. Med. 2005; 24: 199-210.

12. McCarty DE, Carrubba S, Chesson AL, et al. Electromagnetic hypersensitivity: Evidence for a novel neurological syndrome. Int. J. Neurosci. 2011; 121(12): 670-676.

 

[CthrewU]

Citation needed. Let's read them then.

I'll take DOI's or direct links.

I'll be sure to scan them and upload as soon as possible

If you're not a Medical Physcist, Radiologist, or Radiologic Technologist then you have no business reading them.

Edit: Another poster gave you some light reading.

 

[fogelbaby]

There are studies and medical journals that are just now shedding light on the long term effects associated with the use of Magnetic Resonance Imaging. Most have to do with damage to the body's CNS and psychological effects. You cannot turn all of the bodies hydrogen molecules 90deg off axis repeatedly for 20-40 minutes at a time with a magnetic field 4X as powerful as the Earths and not have some effect. MRI technology is still relatively new compared to other medical imaging modalities. It is not totally safe though, safer than a CT or X-Ray sure.

You should also check out the studies done concerning this new tech. They want to use an unregulated band so they can exceed the maximum SAR limit that is currently in place.

http://www.rezence.com/sites/defaul...tory Slide Presentation (FINAL 16May2013).pdf

I am not worried about being in a 1 Telsa MRI for 30 minutes, but that doesn't mean that I would want to be in its field 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

 

[steve333]

Will it give everyone cancer like power lines do? Maybe it'll just erase all your credit cards and hard drives.

There's going to be a brain cancer epidemic within 10 years and everyone will be like why? What happened?
We are bombarded with EMFs and the end result can't be good

 

[CthrewU]

I am not worried about being in a 1 Telsa MRI for 30 minutes, but that doesn't mean that I would want to be in its field 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

Unless you live in a rural area most MRI units used today are 3-4 Tesla.

 

[steve333]

So when you have an MRI done, doesn't the technician run away to a safe room? So how are you saying MRI is safe then?

Any health studies ?

Are there any health studies on WIFI ? Curious to know the effects.

Not 100% safe but safer than a Cat Scan

 

[Ramchi]

You need to get a special back cover on the phone, right?

Right you needed a back case that was sold separately.....for $30 or so..