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They don't call it wireless synching.

They call it wifi synching. Nothing wrong with it happening while the device is being charged. Actually makes perfect sense.
 
let me pose this question to the group.... If we are keeping everything synced to the cloud... and the cloud automatically keeps everything synced in real time...... why does it say it sync's when its plugged in? is the cloud thing not real time syncing? If I add a song in itunes to my library, shouldn't it push it to my ipad and iphone right away?
 
let me pose this question to the group.... If we are keeping everything synced to the cloud... and the cloud automatically keeps everything synced in real time...... why does it say it sync's when its plugged in? is the cloud thing not real time syncing? If I add a song in itunes to my library, shouldn't it push it to my ipad and iphone right away?

If you buy it from iTunes yes. If you just add an .mp3 file to your library no.
 
do you really want it syncing at random times through the day?

because I can assure you, if they did this, the battery complaints would be outrageous

microsoft does the same thing for zune wireless syncing on WP7...it initiates a wireless sync when the phone has been plugged in for over 15 mins (to power)
 
I think the way they are implementing wireless syncing is great. We all have to charge at least a few times a week. Unless you're away from home A LOT this will be a huge plus for the average user.

Actually right now I am one of those people who does not sync enough... So in a way this will help me be more consistent with my syncing and backups without having to actually do anything. I think this feature is one of the bigger pluses of iOS 5 so far (for me personally).
 
I was so excited to hear that Apple has finally decided to let us wirelessly sync our iOS devices... but I was bummed, and got a huge let down when I read this on the "iOS Features" page:



so we DO have to connect, and we're not cutting the cables at all! Think about it, I'm on a plane and I want to sync, I won't be able to do so unless I plug it in.
and personally I don't have an iPhone Dock, so I charge my iPhone through my MacBook, which means no wireless syncing for me?

for those who want further proof go to the new iOS video on the features page and skip to 4:50...

I'm really hyped up about iOS 5.0... but this was a huge let down for me, hopefully it's an optional setting.

Sure apple could allow this without a charger, but then battery life would suck.....

It's like flash, nice to have but some things are more important.
 
do you really want it syncing at random times through the day?

because I can assure you, if they did this, the battery complaints would be outrageous

microsoft does the same thing for zune wireless syncing on WP7...it initiates a wireless sync when the phone has been plugged in for over 15 mins (to power)

From what I've seen wifi syncing is only automatic when charging, but you can initiate manual wifi sync anytime. I'll try when I get home later
 
I think the way they are implementing wireless syncing is great. We all have to charge at least a few times a week. Unless you're away from home A LOT this will be a huge plus for the average user.

Actually right now I am one of those people who does not sync enough... So in a way this will help me be more consistent with my syncing and backups without having to actually do anything. I think this feature is one of the bigger pluses of iOS 5 so far (for me personally).

I don't sync at all. I hate iTunes and I hate synching. It seems every time I start synching my phone I want to use it for something or else I take it in the other room with me.

So this will help me a lot because my phone will be synched much more often.
 
OP, do a little math. Well, not really math but just interpretation.

First of all, what you read was "WiFi sync." Apple never called it wireless that I know of. Anyway, it makes sense because you may not want that sync process to go on every time you get home.

But what I don't think you're taking into account is iCloud. It's part of the game. If you buy an app or song or take a photo, iCloud will sync it with all of your devices. That goes for anything else that uses iCloud.

Not everybody will use iCloud for security or whatever reasons, but between WiFi sync and iCloud I think you'll be OK. Plus not having to plug up an iDevice directly to a Mac is a HUGE benefit for most of us. I have an iMac, so I can't just place it anywhere. Now I could possibly buy some dual-charging station and sync everything from there in the kitchen/den instead of in my bedroom. That's a winner for me.
 
I don't sync at all. I hate iTunes and I hate synching. It seems every time I start synching my phone I want to use it for something or else I take it in the other room with me.

So this will help me a lot because my phone will be synched much more often.

Syncing is now in background so no interfering :)
 
Syncing is now in background so no interfering :)

Yeah syncing is really nice now, I was able to play with my phone right after updating it while it was putting all my stuff back on... I was afraid to try it at first.
 
I was so excited to hear that Apple has finally decided to let us wirelessly sync our iOS devices... but I was bummed, and got a huge let down when I read this on the "iOS Features" page:



so we DO have to connect, and we're not cutting the cables at all! Think about it, I'm on a plane and I want to sync, I won't be able to do so unless I plug it in.
and personally I don't have an iPhone Dock, so I charge my iPhone through my MacBook, which means no wireless syncing for me?

for those who want further proof go to the new iOS video on the features page and skip to 4:50...

I'm really hyped up about iOS 5.0... but this was a huge let down for me, hopefully it's an optional setting.

You will still be able to backup to the cloud. This is just so you can sync content stored on your PC without a cable if you want. The fact that you do not own a power is weird since the phone comes with one.
 
you don't get it, do you? you HAVE to plug in your device... ok, maybe they broadened the experience a bit by having to plug it in anywhere (not just your computer) but you still have to plug.

and btw, explain how can you wirelessly sync on the plane? you have to plug the device for charging. I was not talking about the unavailability of wireless services on planes.

you dont HAVE to plug in. in settings u can hit a button and manually wifi sync, say when you get home for example, or before u go to sleep
 
Just for the avoidance of any doubt.

1) when you plug in to a dock or charge, it will automatically try to sync with your library over WiFi


2) you can force sync wirelessly without plugging in, via Settings > General > iTunes Sync.


The same applies to both for backing up to the cloud. It either does it automatically when plugged in, or you can force it.
 
Just for the avoidance of any doubt.

1) when you plug in to a dock or charge, it will automatically try to sync with your library over WiFi


2) you can force sync wirelessly without plugging in, via Settings > General > iTunes Sync.


The same applies to both for backing up to the cloud. It either does it automatically when plugged in, or you can force it.

finally, an educated well-said and detailed answer... THANK YOU!

please, mods, can you close this thread? I want to avoid future flaming.
 
Just for the avoidance of any doubt.

1) when you plug in to a dock or charge, it will automatically try to sync with your library over WiFi


2) you can force sync wirelessly without plugging in, via Settings > General > iTunes Sync.


The same applies to both for backing up to the cloud. It either does it automatically when plugged in, or you can force it.

Can you activate wireless sync from your PC iTunes? I don't sync music, I use "Manage manually" i.e. drag and drop right into the iPhone, the moment you drop a song into a connected iPhone it "syncs" i.e. moves that one song to iPhone.

Does it work like that with wireless? Is the iPhone always visible as connected in iTunes?
 
If I recall correctly, there is a sync button you can hit manually to still sync wirelessly.

However, by default, any time you plug it up, it'll sync.
 
Regarding syncing wirelessly to a laptop, might be something in this from Apple's website when talking about Lion (on the 'see all new features' page):

"Low-power wake
In OS X Lion, your Mac can wake up for services such as file sharing, backup and more, without the need to turn on the monitor or attached USB devices."

Maybe if in sleep mode the iDevice will low-power wake the machine until the sync is completed?
 
iOS5 beta

the beta version of iOS5 doesn't support wireless syncing yet...

see the release notes:

"The syncing infrastructure in iOS 5 is all new and now supports efficient wireless syncing in addition to USB syncing. In iOS 5 Beta 1, wireless syncing is disabled. To sync, or to restore from an iTunes backup, connect your device to your computer with the USB cable, and launch iTunes 10.5 Beta."
 
you don't get it, do you? you HAVE to plug in your device... ok, maybe they broadened the experience a bit by having to plug it in anywhere (not just your computer) but you still have to plug.

and btw, explain how can you wirelessly sync on the plane? you have to plug the device for charging. I was not talking about the unavailability of wireless services on planes.

You don't have to be "plugged in" to wirelessly sync. You have to be on the same WiFi network, but you don't have to be plugged in to power. In Settings you can click "Sync Wirelessly" and it will trigger a sync at that time. The "plugged in" part is just for AUTOMATIC syncing.
 
my point exactly....

WiFi Syncing
In iOS 5.0 beta 2, wireless syncing is now available for the Mac. It requires iTunes 10.5 beta 2 and OS X 10.6.8 or Lion. You will see an option to enable wireless syncing when you connect your device to iTunes with the USB cable. It is recommended you perform your initial sync with a cable after restoring your device.
Wireless syncing is triggered automatically when the device is connected to power and on the same network as the paired computer. Or, you can manually trigger a sync from iTunes or from Settings -> General -> iTunes Sync (same network as paired computer required).
Be sure your device is plugged into a power source when performing Wireless syncs.
If you find issues with apps, media and/or photos synced to your device, you can reset then resync. From Settings -> General -> Reset, choose Erase all Content and Settings. Then reconnect to iTunes and sync again.
In this beta, iTunes may incorrectly report Photos as "Other" in the capacity bar. Photo syncing otherwise works as expected.

THAT'S what's bugging me the most of this feature! it's not fully "wireless", they do broaden the capability, the actual syncing is wireless, but NOT the whole experience :(
 
It does not need to be plugged in to do a wireless sync. I'm doing it right now no cables. I assume they say plug it in so the battery doesn't die while it syncs.
 
THAT'S what's bugging me the most of this feature! it's not fully "wireless",

You mean that for the past hour that this feature has been available to actually test has been bugging you?


but NOT the whole experience :(

Can you elaborate on the "Whole Experience" since I'm sure by now you've had plenty of time to install and test this feature out long enough to form a accurate opinion of how this feature works while in Beta.
 
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