Noticed in the video that they said PCI slots “for sound and video I/O”, not “GPU”…NV? Nope, not a chance anytime soon, seems like Apple *really* holds grudges. AMD? outside possibility but I doubt it personally, Apple seems to want to shift to their own GPUs
That said you'll probably be able to use Asahi Linux with PCIe GPU support at some point and take advantage of the hardware that way
Yes, and MacOS isnt going to support non-Apple GPUs anymore it seems, but other OSes can. The card will still be present on the PCIe bus if you pop it in, MacOS cant do anything with it but Asahi should be able to
Especially likely when they reduced the complexity & parts of the hardware but ADDED $1000 to the base price…
A handful of people are throwing legitimate criticism at Apple, instead of being mindless fanboys, and that is “a cesspool of Apple haters” to you. 🤦🏽♂️
Pandemic, AND a toxic culture of hating anyone who isn’t a status quo, lowest-common-denominator “normie”, and it’s being promoted by mainstream media and elected officials.
Not factual. It’s simply the case that there are fewer mindless fanboys, and less tech-geek corporate worship goes on here compared to certain other forums.
It’s always about the thermals, and almost nobody ever thinks about it unless they’re the small percentage of users who actually run their machines hard. The Mac Studio has worse thermals than the Mac Pro.
Really? The conservatism and libertarian corporate bootlicking is why I left Apple Insider.
This is what got me back into modern gaming: the used 2017 27” 5K iMac I bought three months ago… which has been abandoned by Mac OS as of Sonoma.
32GB of assured memory for a GPU could be better than shared memory, if the CPU/software is also demanding a lot.
It SHOULD have better thermals and therefore be able to run at max speed 100% of the time. Who knows if that’s actually the case.
My feelings exactly. Many of us here could spec the Mac we want and need in a few minutes but Apple will consistently fail to address most users desires. They are big enough and wealthy enough to produce the machine everyone needs but money seems to dominate their thinking. Even if it’s not as cool and efficient as a Mac Pro I will continue to build the PC I want and some elements will certainly be better than any Mac Pro as I can customise far more.
Because it costs too damned much. There are people who want the slots and better thermals, but cannot pay the inflated price.
Please don’t start the “real pro” rhetoric nonsense again.
Something I’ve mentioned before: this machine is targeted at corp buyers, not individuals. They arent expecting anyone except a few enthusiasts and a few super wealthy folks to buy this for home or even personal work (that said, a good example of who will: my psychiatrist went from a 6,1 to a 7,1 in 2019 for work and I’d bet will jump to this, he doesnt need it, he just enjoys having one and can afford it) this is aimed at companies buying enterprise hardware for specific types of work
As someone who ACTUALLY configures and buys Mac Pro’s for professionals and companies that need them, I’m going to completely disagree with you. This is a near perfect system for the market they are aimed for, from your comment I’d say that isn’t you!!
Please remember, lots of Pro users do not need any more extra GPU or CPU performance over what the Ultra offers. Having lots of internal very fast PCIe card support is WAY more important and practical over external much slower Thunderbolt expansion chassis and cable spaghetti. For example, the last few Mac Pro systems I configured for a client had x3 four port 12G SDI cards, x1 Dante audio card, x1 NVMe Raid card and a 25GigE network card installed in addition to the Apple GPU MPX. Firstly, You simply can’t get the required performance from Thunderbolt 4 ports; secondly the mess of extra T4/T3 cables and power cables for the expansion chassis cause reliability, noise and heat issues; lastly all the extra expansion cassis use up additional rack space which is often restricted. The new Mac Pro offers a great solution to those that need it. That said, I do really hope that a future M3, M4 etc allows an ‘Extreme’ version of the family to be produced in the future
I'm pretty sure no other OSes can either. This isn't Apple refusing to allow it in software... it's a hardware issue with the M1/M2. Asahi Linux has been unable to support eGPUs on Apple Silicon... PCIe slots aren't going to change anything about this.