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Withings Launches New Smart 'Body Comp' Scale and Health+ Service
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A subscription for a bathroom scale? Not for me.
Where does it state that. The Withings site suggests the subscription is for additional health and well being features in the Healthmate app.
I would be astonished if core scale features ever require a subscription. I'm sure they would have to clearly state this is the advertising which I did not see
Happy to be corrected
It takes like 2-4 hours to show up in HealthKit for whatever reason for me using the scale that I have from them.
I was shocked on a recent scale purchase to find out it would not work at all unless I created an account and logged in. Seri-ouch-ly? I sent it back. Maybe I would have felt differently IF ONLY IT HAD OFFERED TO MEASURE MY VISCERAL BODY FAT! Who would not pay the big bucks for that? 🍸😹 "Well, I weight 12 stone ten, but my visceral body fat is only three stone out of that, the rest is SOLID MUSCLE"🍸🙀
Can I buy the scale without Health+?
Body Comp can only be purchased with Health+ at the moment.
There's some FAQs at the bottom. Wording indicates it might change, but I doubt it.
I have the Body Cardio scale since 2019, hope the features stay the same without the $60 Body Comp and Health+ subs.
Where's that Withings Body Scan scale they announced in January? https://www.macrumors.com/2022/01/03/ces-2022-withings-unveils-new-body-scan-smart-scale/
And I think that new cash cow is about to coming crashing down for many manufacturers and service providers as consumers now find themselves having to make cuts to afford the basics like fuel and food. At times like this, the cash-up-front outright purchase model is a much better strategy.
If one good thing comes out of this crisis, it might be that there’s less of a rush to make everything a subscription service.
Honestly if you were going to buy one I’d wait for that. This new scale is nice but I just recently purchased Body+ so this doesn’t really offer much more for the price and hassle of a subscription. Hopefully the more advanced scale does not require a subscription but now I’m thinking it will need one. Which is lame. Honestly my fat % and muscle mass kinda bounces around so I kinda take the percentages as a trend at best. I was off my diet for a few random days couple weeks ago and the measurements got weird since being back to my strict diet. I’m consistently losing weight at a healthy pace, seeing visible results in my six-pack yet the fat% keeps trending up and muscle mass dropped a bit. I’ve actually increased strength in my actual workouts so outside of weight measurements fat % is mostly a ball park.
On the website it says you can only purchase through their website for $209 with the included 12 month subscription.
Mine shows up in Apple Health in about 15-30 seconds. Body+ Scale is connected to my Wi-Fi.
I have a cheap Eufy (Anker) smart bluetooth scale. It syncs up with Apple Health. I bought in in early 2020, never changed the battery, It doesn't clog up my wifi, it's reliable and it recognizes every member of the family automatically. It gives me most of the data points listed above. I don't think we need always connected smart scales and subscription services, to be honest.
UK models do feature PWV and it’s not been disabled. Don’t get excited though. I find the measurements to be useless. I’ve tried two units and both suffer similarly with wildly varying readings for PWV on a daily basis. Four family members all got similar results across two different sets of scales. PWV never stabilises to a useful value. And I do not believe the my actual PWV would naturally vary by that much when you consider what they claim to be measuring (or inferring). Either a faulty batch or the algorithm is just not that good, in my experience. Body composition seems to be OK though, comparing to within about 5% of similar numbers from professional medical grade devices.
I had a similar scale to the Eufy (there are dozens on Amazon using similar chipsets) and from what I’ve read and experienced is they are not at all accurate. My “smart” scale consistently weighed me 4-6lbs lighter than my old dumb digital scale. After a month of seeing these measurements I took a gamble on the Withings scale and sure enough dumb scale and Withings scale weighed me within 0.1 minutes of each other. Now I have a month’s worth of garbage data stored in Apple health. Oh well.
I have a withings scale. It doesn’t go directly to the apple health app. But it goes to the WT health mate app, which syncs nicely with the apple health app. I’ve used it for a couple of years and been generally pretty happy with it. This is the only WT product I own. But am I technically now sharing my weight data with two companies instead of one? Yes.
No, thanks. Withings/Nokia/Withings does a crappy job of humidity proofing these very expensive scales. You know, bathroom scales, which are meant to be in a room where there is humidity! It corrodes contacts on their control boards, and within a couple of years your scale starts having weird errors or UI problems. This has been a continual issue with them. Just look at online reviews with voluminous owners complaining of the same thing, and there's a YouTube video to remove components, resolder, and fix.
And don't get me started on the dubious quality of their approximations of these other fancy health metrics.
Want a quality smart scale that reliably works for years, get an Omron. The same Japanese brand that manufactures quality home and medical grade devices that doctors recommend millions of people use to measure blood pressure, etc. Withings is a joke.
And don't get me started on the dubious quality of their approximations of these other fancy health metrics.
Want a quality smart scale that reliably works for years, get an Omron. The same Japanese brand that manufactures quality home and medical grade devices that doctors recommend millions of people use to measure blood pressure, etc. Withings is a joke.
It is clearly not just a bathroom scale. But i agree with you that it is not for me because to „unlock“ the real value of the hardware $209 investment, you have keep paying for it forever.
Withings, known for its range of health-related smart devices, today announced the launch of the Body Comp scale. The Body Comp is described as a complete body assessment scale that is able to measure a number of different biomarkers. Withings says that it offers novel sensors, exclusive algorithms, and patented electronics for accurate weight and body composition measurements.
It is able to determine full body composition, including weight, muscle mass, fat mass, water percent, bone mass, BMI, and visceral fat (the fat around organs), plus it provides a cardiovascular assessment that determines standing heart rate and provides a vascular age based on Pulse Wave Velocity, a measurement based on arterial stiffness. It also includes a nerve health assessment that offers a nerve health score computed from electrochemical skin conductance through the feet.
Withings says that this is the first scale that is able to measure body fat, visceral fat, vascular age, and nerve health in a single consumer device.
The Health+ service that Withings is launching alongside the scale is designed to unlock additional features in the Health Mate app used with Withings smart devices. It offers new details and metrics for a more complete overview of health, along with six-week habit building modules to help users achieve health goals.
Health+ can be used for logging mood, food, and sleep, with Withings providing daily plans that include suggested recipes and workouts. Health+ also allows users to correlate data to see how and when different metrics evolve when using the information obtained from the scale.
The Body Comp scale with Health+ integration will be available from the Withings website starting on October 4, and it will be priced at $209.95. That price point includes the scale and a 12-month Health+ subscription.
Article Link: Withings Launches New Smart 'Body Comp' Scale and Health+ Servic
Withings, known for its range of health-related smart devices, today announced the launch of the Body Comp scale. The Body Comp is described as a complete body assessment scale that is able to measure a number of different biomarkers. Withings says that it offers novel sensors, exclusive algorithms, and patented electronics for accurate weight and body composition measurements.
It is able to determine full body composition, including weight, muscle mass, fat mass, water percent, bone mass, BMI, and visceral fat (the fat around organs), plus it provides a cardiovascular assessment that determines standing heart rate and provides a vascular age based on Pulse Wave Velocity, a measurement based on arterial stiffness. It also includes a nerve health assessment that offers a nerve health score computed from electrochemical skin conductance through the feet.
Withings says that this is the first scale that is able to measure body fat, visceral fat, vascular age, and nerve health in a single consumer device.
The Health+ service that Withings is launching alongside the scale is designed to unlock additional features in the Health Mate app used with Withings smart devices. It offers new details and metrics for a more complete overview of health, along with six-week habit building modules to help users achieve health goals.
Health+ can be used for logging mood, food, and sleep, with Withings providing daily plans that include suggested recipes and workouts. Health+ also allows users to correlate data to see how and when different metrics evolve when using the information obtained from the scale.
The Body Comp scale with Health+ integration will be available from the Withings website starting on October 4, and it will be priced at $209.95. That price point includes the scale and a 12-month Health+ subscription.
Article Link: Withings Launches New Smart 'Body Comp' Scale and Health+ Service
Great products….dot dot dot.
It appears EVERYTHING will become subscriptionized going forward. And without going into the principles of that, eventually we’ll all get subscription fatigue. How much money are we going to loose from juggling which services we need which months?
There needs to be a better way of managing this before we get there….
Apple has a pretty decent way for this, but their percentage demanded from companies is too high, “forcing” them to go external = bad doe Apple customers and resulting in EU laws (which are good, as they promote competition) but….honestly Apple, fix this before it get’s worse. Don’t be that guy.
