Won't turn on. Nothing

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by kurolap, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. kurolap macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    #1
    Few days ago I left my MacBook aid 2013 model at home. Charge was around 80%, when I came back in a few hours it wouldn't power on.. Weird maybe battery died, plugged it in, press the power button, nothing...

    Looked up problem online. Did all the command+p+r+ option and other similar option, nothing. No fan, no power. Nada.


    Read somewhere that if there has been a power failure something can get fried? I'm travelling now and currently in Mexico, I asked and there was a power outage. What could this be?

    I'm going 7 hours to a different city now where there is an authorized repair Center.

    Locals thought it could be Cuz of humidity and salt, I've been in coastal cities last 1.5 years.

    Any idea what it could be guys? Anyone else's max just doesn't turn on? Virus?
     
  2. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #2
    It's most likely a hardware issue, I'd think.

    There are no viruses that you can get easily. Any virulent software would need your permission to run in the first place.
     
  3. drsox macrumors 65816

    drsox

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2011
    Location:
    Xhystos
    #3
    Do you have the tools to open up the back and unplug/replug the battery ? On other appliances that have battery problems, that seems to work for a while.
     
  4. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #4
    Resetting NVRAM has nothing to do with power, charging, fans, etc. Only resetting the SMC addresses such issues.
    It could be a defective or damaged battery, power adapter or logic board. If it won't power on at all, your best bet is to have Apple look at it.
    Certainly not a virus. Macs are not immune to malware, but no true viruses exist in the wild that can run on Mac OS X, and there never have been any since it was released over 12 years ago. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X is a handful of trojans, which can be easily avoided by practicing safe computing (see below). 3rd party antivirus apps are not necessary to keep a Mac malware-free, as long as a user practices safe computing, as described in the following link.
    Read the What security steps should I take? section of the Mac Virus/Malware FAQ for tips on practicing safe computing.
    There are no OS X viruses at all. See above.
     
  5. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #5
    No, there are certainly viruses. Just none that exist in the wild. Thus 'that you can get easily'. :)
     
  6. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #6
    No, you can't get them at all, easily or not. If they don't exist in the wild, users can't access them.
     
  7. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #7
    Omg. Idk why you're arguing with me. I was more or less in accordance with what you said, except I added the 'easily part' as irony. You can't get a virus in the wild, no, but there are viruses that have been made. >.>
     
  8. Natzoo macrumors 65816

    Natzoo

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Location:
    Not sure where i am
  9. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #9
    I agree, but what does this have to do with the topic? .-.
     
  10. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #10
    With so much paranoia and misinformation about OS X and viruses, it's in the best interest of readers to be clear that their Macs cannot be infected with a virus. Telling them that they cannot easily be infected would lead some to believe they may, under certain circumstances, encounter a virus, which simply isn't true.
    Based on the OP's question, the recommendation to go to Apple is very much on-topic and appropriate, and mirrors the recommendation in post #4.
     
  11. Natzoo macrumors 65816

    Natzoo

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Location:
    Not sure where i am
    #11
    It does, it deals with the issue. Instead of waiting for a long time for a solution, he could book an apple appointment and you can always cancel an appointment for free if a fellow Macrumors solves it.
     
  12. MacModMachine, Feb 16, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2015

    MacModMachine macrumors 68020

    MacModMachine

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #12

    actually he is flat out wrong , there are viruses for macs , our qr has picked them up many times(actual viruses and not malware).

    they exists out there , there are just very few that get scanned for.
     
  13. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #13
    Prove your claim. Name one OS X virus that exists in the wild. Just one.
     
  14. MacModMachine macrumors 68020

    MacModMachine

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #14
    INIT-29-B virus
    Hong Kong virus

    The 2 above can be argued to be trojans ,and dont really act like a virus,


    OSX.Lamzev.A(2010 i think) / B,C Versions however does spread on its own and will infect macs on a network autonomously. I have a copy of it i can supply to you i have done some research with(B/C Versions).

    I dont know of any antivirus companies who have even listed the B,C Strains because they are so rare.

    Another one which has more strains is Mac.BackDoor.iWorm(very low infection rate 5-6k north america) which can be picked up with a good IPS.
     
  15. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #15
    None of those are viruses. They are all Trojans or worms, most of which are either no longer present in the wild, or are rendered ineffective against current versions of OS X. You have yet to prove the existence of one OS X virus in the wild. It doesn't matter what some website or user mistakenly calls a virus. What matters is whether or not malware meets the definition of a virus. There has never been a true OS X virus in the wild. All OS X malware that has ever existed in the wild can be avoided by practicing safe computing.
     
  16. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #16
    Sigh, if you want to talk about this, make your own thread. This doesn't relate to OP's problem.
     
  17. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #17
    Since the OP brought up the topic of viruses, it's certainly on-topic to refute misinformation about the subject. If you don't want to read the posts, don't.
     
  18. joshlalonde macrumors 6502

    joshlalonde

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Location:
    Canada
    #18
    Not really, since you're only talking about viruses and not the OP's problem. And more or less you can agree that a virus is not the problem that OP is having. You are simply arguing about viruses, not the problem. So, therefore, you are not on topic. So make your own. Aint that hard to do.

    OP, I think you should take it to the shop.

    ----------

    My apologies, I misunderstood.
     
  19. fotomarc macrumors regular

    fotomarc

    Joined:
    May 8, 2014
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    #19
    Have you tried to hold the power button for a few seconds? I had a similar problem with my old iMac and it was because it didn't shut down. Best thing to do is call Apple Support, or go and talk to a genius in store.
     
  20. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #20
    I'll post what I deem appropriate, especially to refute misinformation. You take care of your own posting and let others worry about theirs.
     
  21. gnasher729, Feb 16, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2015

    gnasher729 macrumors P6

    gnasher729

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    #21
    Surely if the thread starter thinks that his problems _might_ be caused by a virus, telling him that it _isn't_ caused by a virus because there are no viruses in the wild is on topic.

    In addition, even if there was a virus, a virus wouldn't stop a Mac from starting. At the moment the Mac tries to start, the virus isn't running yet. A virus, if there was one, _might_ be able to crash a Mac immediately after it is starting, but it couldn't stop it from starting. At least the display would be turned on.

    It sounded like you left your Mac running, when you came back it wasn't running, and you plugged it in. If I get that right then it wasn't plugged in during the power outage, so it wouldn't have been affected. And I think the power supply has a certain amount of protection against power spikes built in.

    Few things to try: Check if brightness is turned down all the way. Check if the display is broken by plugging in a mouse and external monitor, closing the lid and rebooting. Do you get a green light from the charging cable? The charger might be broken and the battery empty. If you boot and hold your ear on your MacBook, to the left of the touch pad, do you hear hard drive noise? You should hear some irregular noise. That means _something_ is working, which is good news.
     
  22. MacModMachine macrumors 68020

    MacModMachine

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #22
    like i said , there are variants , that are viruses.


    you can go ahead and deny what ever you want , i however work in the security field in a position you could only hope to work in.

    there are mac viruses , pretend whatever you want.


    im guessing you are a janitor for a living , or some mouth breather.
     
  23. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

    GGJstudios

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    #23
    You still haven't proven your claim. Posting the names of Trojans or worms does not prove that there are OS X viruses in the wild. There are none. There never have been any. These facts are well known. If you want to disprove these facts, post the name of a true OS X virus in the wild.
    You know the old saying about assumptions.
     
  24. MacModMachine, Feb 17, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 17, 2015

    MacModMachine macrumors 68020

    MacModMachine

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #24
    prove your right....oh wait.
     
  25. motrek, Feb 17, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 17, 2015

    motrek macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2012
    #25
    Can you share the name of the company you work for?

    If they hired you to do computer security work and you don't know the difference between a virus and a trojan, I'd rather avoid that company's products.
     

Share This Page