Word on the street...

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Matt.Musiol, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Matt.Musiol macrumors newbie

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    Apparently the Sprint and Verizon models are the unlocked phones this year, not the ATT and T-Mobile. Has anyone heard this?
     
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    Well it seems like the obvious choice as the Verizon and Sprint models support everything the AT&T and T-Mobile models support plus CDMA
     
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    So essentially if someone pre-ordered an ATT phone, it should still work on T-Mobile? Both are GSM.
     
  6. lewisd25 macrumors 6502a

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    What does not having CDMA support have to do with being unlocked? The GSM phones are still unlocked for any carrier that uses GSM.
     
  7. bradbomb macrumors 6502

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    I believe the OP is talking about which model will be the "SIM-Free" model
     
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    I went to preorder the AT&T one as I'm on AT&T and it denied me because I'm a business customer so I actually just went ahead and ordered the T-Mobile one. Just shows up as a fully unlocked GSM iPhone 7. I'm currently rocking a T-Mobile iPhone SE on AT&T just fine, soon to go to Straight Talk for my girlfriend. The whole needing accounts to preorder stuff is a bit ridiculous.

    But either of them when paid in full are unlocked. Just be aware the AT&T/T-Mobile variant only has GSM, so no CMDA services will work. LTE will however, just not 3G and below.

    So yes, it is probably a safe bet that the Verizon model will be the SIM free version as it's still got the modem that works with all of them. Likely Qualcomm vs the rumored Intel modem in the GSM versions.
     
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    Ding Ding Ding!
     
  11. garyleecn macrumors 6502a

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    apparently you don't understand the difference between 'locked' and 'network incompatible'
     
  12. shwagon, Sep 15, 2016
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    Sorry, Im a complete noob when it comes to this stuff (but i did use the search function before starting a new thread)... I have been rocking a AT&T iPhone 5 I got used off of ebay 3 years ago on a straight talk plan (AT&T cell band).

    When I went to pre-order, I got blocked by the AT&T account information page (as im not a customer) and jumped on to the 128gb T-Mobile 7 before they sold out.

    Does anyone know if my Straight Talk (AT&T) SIM will work when the phone arrives?
     
  13. Rob198612 macrumors 6502

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    GSM model when unlocked will work with any GSM carriers only. the CDMA model when unlocked will work with all GSM and CDMA carriers.
     
  14. shwagon macrumors newbie

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    I paid full price up front, this would mean that the phone should arrive "unlocked" and I should be able to use the Straight Talk AT&T GSM SIM, correct?
     
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    If you purchased the T-Mobile version from Apple, then it only comes in one variant: unlocked. Will work with gsm networks out of the box.
     
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    Trust the Interent. No one lies on the Interent!
     
  17. Juan007 macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, it's worse than OP stated - the GSM models have NO MODEM SUPPORT for CDMA. It means that you can never, ever, EVER use those phones on certain networks, in certain places.

    With locked phones, you can at least hope to unlock them! The GSM iPhone 7s can NEVER be unlocked to run on CDMA. NEVER not in a million years!

    "Unlocked" GSM iPhone 7 / 7+ are WORSE than locked. They are iPhone 7 MINUS.
     
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    Just so everyone is aware, this poster posts the exact same post everywhere he can find on MacRumors. And has been doing it for a week now. Ignore if you value your time and brain cells.
     
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    this. always this. you'll never go wrong.
     
  20. shwagon, Sep 15, 2016
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    Yea, I didn't hear about this until after the pre-order. I have been using the same Straight Talk SIM/GSM for three years now and cant complain. I wish I had known about this and ordered the CDMA phone (so i could have the option to change) but will be happy with the current performance of my set up.
     
  21. Rob198612 macrumors 6502

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    Yes
     
  22. rui no onna macrumors 603

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    Not quite. In the US, you still have to deal with Verizon's and Sprint's asinine whitelisting policy.
     
  23. Dirtydutch macrumors 6502a

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    I understand the gripe with this, what I don't get is how worried everyone is about all of a sudden switching carriers that would require a completely different type of network. Like all of a sudden we're all traveling abroad to china and Japan while switching to Verizon this year? I'll bet 98% of all of us on here will be with the same carrier next iPhone release, I think Apple did a better job controlling stock this year so it doesn't get into the wrong hands upon initial release. Worst comes to worst return it in 14 days with a Verizon one if you can't cope with not being able to travel the world and all of its carriers. And it's honestly not all that bad considering GSM is pretty widely used everywhere. I know it's all about paying full price entitlement that people will say.
     
  24. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Not sure about Sprint at this point, but as I recall it's as simple as just popping in a Verizon SIM when it comes to Verizon these days.
     

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