Once again -- I want my grocery store (all of them actually) to stop charging so much for cheese. Why do they mark it up when I know the farmer sells it to them for HALF that price! I want them to immediately stop marking it up and taking a big piece of that cheese for themselves. Thank you...
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Yes I know that. But you can get Fortnite on any Android phone from other legitimate sources. Android customers have options Apple customers do not.
Also there was something that most people seemed to miss when Google talked about the situation. They said that they supported customers ability to get Fortnite from other sources but made it clear that the rules in their own store held firm. That’s kind of a sneaky way of highlighting the advantages of their platform while keeping the goodwill of people who may side with Apple’s point of view and of customers of the Play Store who want it to be more Apple-like in terms of security.
I agree with Apple on the Fornite fiasco, but this seems a bit more grey—not least because WordPress has been on the iOS store for years before this became an issue.
I’m understanding correctly the issue stems from the app supporting both unpaid/self-installed sites (like I use) and paid, hosted Wordpress.com sites. If the purpose of the app is solely the maintenance of wordpress installs it seems like Apple should let it slide. Especially now that the world is watching.
However, I admit my use of wordpress is very limited these days, I haven’t touched the app in months and perhaps I’m missing something.
I’m understanding correctly the issue stems from the app supporting both unpaid/self-installed sites (like I use) and paid, hosted Wordpress.com sites. If the purpose of the app is solely the maintenance of wordpress installs it seems like Apple should let it slide. Especially now that the world is watching.
However, I admit my use of wordpress is very limited these days, I haven’t touched the app in months and perhaps I’m missing something.
Yeah, the cops keep bullying me into going the speed limit.
Apple probably trying to make sure everyone is same so less to used against Apple when they say everyone is treated same.
everyone should abandon iOS. That'll teach em
Because Apple created a special app category so Netflix and Spotify didn’t have to offer IAP. In that case having an app that does nothing upon download without having an account doesn’t bother Phil Schiller.
As others have stated. Its up to consumers to vote with their wallet. If you are appalled by normal retail expenses, there are other options for you. Android has stores you can use. iOS, not even MacOS is the only option I have for what I want.
I choose to pay the Apple Tax for the sake of a closed safe platform. I enjoy having the flexibility to experiment and do what I want on my computer. On my phone, that I carry around everywhere, I choose security first. If that means developers get up and leave, I am fine with that. If you choose to leave because you want an open platform, I'm fine with that too. But don't mess up the only place I can get what I choose.
I choose to pay the Apple Tax for the sake of a closed safe platform. I enjoy having the flexibility to experiment and do what I want on my computer. On my phone, that I carry around everywhere, I choose security first. If that means developers get up and leave, I am fine with that. If you choose to leave because you want an open platform, I'm fine with that too. But don't mess up the only place I can get what I choose.
You could always buy the grocery store's own brand of cheese for half the price. You can find it right next to the overly marked up cheese.
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Is the category "Apps called Netflix and Spotify?"
I also don't give a cut of my wuxiaworld subscription to Apple. Are they consider a big fish too?
Won’t be long now til apples 30% extortion comes to an end.
Netflix only allows you to buy a subscription on Netflix's website, and there is no link from the iOS app, so there is no IAP. That is why Netflix don't have to give any money to Apple, because there isn't any IAP on the iOS app.
It's not a 'special' category.
It's not a 'special' category.
Yep. Apple is the bad shark on shark tank. Let’s make a deal. Ill let you in my App Store and you give me 30% of all your revenue. Forever.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? But go with that.
Where else are they supposed to put their iOS app?
It is a special category. It’s called a ”reader” app and only applies to certain kinds of apps. I’m not sure what year Apple introduced it but it wasn’t there when the App Store started. How Apple came up with which apps are allowed to be ”reader” apps one will never know for sure but it’s interesting that they happen to match up exactly with services businesses Apple competes in. Believe me if any app could be a “reader” app and not have to offer IAP developers wouldn’t be complaining as they wouldn’t have to hand over 30% of micro transactions to Apple.
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It's weird that Apple should get 30% (or 15%) of my Wordpress hosting fees just because I subscribed inside the app.
I know those are Apple's rules... but still.
I know those are Apple's rules... but still.
How about this? Apple allow third party store or allow side loading, you don’t have to use it, you don’t have to side load, it is the same iOS for you.
While others, they can choose to enable install unknown sources, or implement gate keeper like how they did with MacOS.
Once again, use a proper analogy. If the cheesemaker doesn't like the how much the store charges to sell their cheese, the cheesemaker can try one of a thousand different stores. OR, they can sell their cheese direct, using online payment systems. OR, they can stand on a corner and sell it from a cheese stand. Get it? It's about having a choice if you don't like one store's terms. And with iOS apps, Apple has ONE choice--Apple.
Why do you think it's 'ridiculous'?
Netflix don't provide iAP, so Netflix don't have to pay anything to Apple for Netflix subscriptions.
Simple as that.
It is: Neflix and other applications are considered "reader" apps and that's why they are allowed to offer an external subscription and no equivalent IAP through Apple.
As soon as an App allows more than just consume content more or less passively, it cannot only offer external purchases and has to offer an equivalent IAP through Apple.
Thanks for the clarification.
But what you do mean by "and has to offer an equivalent IAP through Apple"?
My Email provider offers an iOS email client app, but they don't offer IAP subscription payment, you have to go through their website. So that's a 'reader' app too.
You have choice. So do app developers.
Android.
macOS
Windows
The Web
Linux
Build their own phone platform.
No one is forced to develop for iOS, it’s a choice.
Don’t like Apples platform? Go somewhere else. It’s simple.
Neither does Wordpress, though. The way WP is set up is very similar to the concessions Hey made to get back in the store, and now that’s a problem for WP and not Hey.