The app doesn't sell anything. The owners would most likely be happy to give 30% of nothing.
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Apple makes money like any other business. If people knew how much stuff was marked up at retail stores they would have a fit. If you buy something for $10 the store likely paid about $5 for it. It sounds like a lot but when you're running a business it's needed to make money.
What's crazy is all these people complaining about someone else making money but if you told them they should work for less money or for free it's a different story. All the sudden dudes flipping burgers think they deserve $15 an hour LOL
here’s the issue with Art Mark’s analogy. It’s not that people don’t want things marked up. That happens.
This would be like if the grocery store told the farmer that, if they’re going to offer their cheese, they also MUST sell their eggs through the grocery store at the same markup or they can’t sell anything.
I supported Apple on some of the conflicts but this here is just piracy. They are getting out of control. Greed is now their only compass.
How about this: (before the pandemic) I worked at a local gym as a personal trainer as a side hobby. Additionally, I offer nutrition coaching as a separate venture, independent from the gym (no client crossover at all).
Under Apple’s model, even though I signed on as a trainer, and successfully fulfilled my duties, now they’re saying that if I want to continue training, I must also offer nutrition coaching through them at their rates and give them a cut.
Is that right? Should I just go elsewhere? I know I CAN, but should I have to?
Under Apple’s model, even though I signed on as a trainer, and successfully fulfilled my duties, now they’re saying that if I want to continue training, I must also offer nutrition coaching through them at their rates and give them a cut.
Is that right? Should I just go elsewhere? I know I CAN, but should I have to?
Being offered and being exclusive are like, I don’t know, completely different. Like Spotify has to offer subscriptions, but virtually everyone goes external to actually get one, and the fee is 0%
the App Store rules want the app to be completely usable by the user, but most subscriptions will be set up externally at the same 0% fee
this is being way overblown
Here is another analogy. Say you buy an expensive new car. Before you can buy the car you have to sign a contract that a percentage of every service or sale related to that car like insurance, maintenance, repairs, car wash, fuel goes to the manufacturer. And the manufacturer gets to decide which parts and services you are allowed to use. Does that still sound reasonable?
Should I have said smaller company?
Automattic was last valued at $3 billion and 2019 revenue is estimated to be around $135 million.
Netflix is valued at close to $220 billion and 2019 revenue was over $20 billion.
macOS is secure yet Apple isn't the sole gate keeper. Many people get their apps outside of the app store.
You mention the word "Lately" to Apple's scummyness but Apple didn't change their policies. They were scummy to begin with. (if you call wanting to make money scummy). In other words, almost all companies are scummy. Their job is to maximize their profits. Apple wants to make the most they can and the developers want to make the most they can. The only difference here is, a every day normal squabble between companies is out in the open for the public to see. I am sure if you looked into the dealings between the companies supplying components for the razor blade advanced, you would find that the manufacturers wanted more money, and Razor wanted to pay less. Do you call them scummy or base your purchase on what percentage they are paying their retailer. No, you don't. You base it on what machine is best for you. The politics and tug of war on their expenses works itself out and you get to worry about using your machine.I don't care what percentage they pay apple. Its up to developer to form a business plan that allows them to make money. They get to set the price and choose which platforms are viable to them.
Users should be caring about how this affects them instead of worrying about companies fighting over money.
I want a secure platform with the convenience of shopping at one safe place to buy and update my apps. Only available on iOS. Others may not care about that and want multiple stores, there is another platform that caters to this.
well, there is a difference here. In this case, it’d be as if the gas station agreed that when they put gas in your special car, they’d pay a percentage of that money to the manufacturer. But now the manufacturer ALSO wants a percentage of all of the candy sold in the gas station minimart.
No that’s not even close. A better analogy would be if you wanted to offer nutrition coaching through the gym, they would get a cut, but if you continued to offer nutrition services outside the gym, they would get no cut
MacOS is not secure. There are many viruses and Trojans out on the platform that Apple can't do anything about. Google it, if you don't believe me.
I see your point. So basically the idea here, then, is that Automattic should remove the option for paid-for domains to login from the WordPress iOS app.
Eeeek?
So let's says Ghost implemented iOS app dashboard (currently still payment over web), then it might be end up like Wordpress.com. Not really fond of this kind of policy.
I think this are over far too much. At this point implemented web app and pinned to home screen (just like old ways early iOS) are best workaround to bypass iOS IAP policy.
Exactly. I bought Resolve, Affinity, Acorn directly from their web. This way much support developer directly, they no suffer from Apple 30 percent cut. As giveback I get faster updates and more full fledged software because they free of sandboxing restriction (I can't install plugin are some presets with MAS version)
So let's says Ghost implemented iOS app dashboard (currently still payment over web), then it might be end up like Wordpress.com. Not really fond of this kind of policy.
I think this are over far too much. At this point implemented web app and pinned to home screen (just like old ways early iOS) are best workaround to bypass iOS IAP policy.
Exactly. I bought Resolve, Affinity, Acorn directly from their web. This way much support developer directly, they no suffer from Apple 30 percent cut. As giveback I get faster updates and more full fledged software because they free of sandboxing restriction (I can't install plugin are some presets with MAS version)
iOS is not more secure than macOS. Both systems share a lot of code. The difference is that it's easier to shoot yourself in the foot by falling for social tricks to download questionable software. If you mostly get your software from the Store you're quite safe.
But the difference is that you can (for now) get software from other sources. And that's a good thing, because it makes the Mac much more versatile and userful.
Of course not because the analogy is way off. If you had the opportunity to buy those services through the dealer, the dealer would likely charge for the privilege, but if you purchased elsewhere the dealer would not charge. See how simple this is, not hard at all
No OS is really secure. User behavior determine secureness of OS. The tech savvy one can live carefully with outdated OS as they knowing what they're doing.
And neither is iOS
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I really cannot believe how stubborn people are to defend apple on this. It wasn't that WordPress was using another service for payments within the app. They had an app, that you can use for free, which also lets you manage a bit of your website if you are hosting a website on their website. If you do not have a website hosted on their platform then you can still use the app to manage any website in the world that is running WordPress. If you are accessing a website that is hosted on their servers then even before you use this app you have to go to Wordpress.com, and setup your website. In total the app probably handles about 10% of what you need or want to do with a WordPress website. In most cases people only use it to monitor comments and uptime. You can use it to update content, but it is so gimped compared to the actual web app that most people don't use it. Now Apple comes along and they see that WordPress charges up to $1,700 to host a high traffic website, which is probably mostly going to the actual management of said website, and they say they want 30% of that for WordPress to have the privilege to publish a free app when WordPress is right now probably paying about 4% to handle those transactions. How are people not getting this.
Buying a device means you own the hardware, not the software. There is no rule or law that lets hardware owners decide how software works...
As someone who just returned to Apple, I am disappointed... but I also want to warn you, don’t leave just to prove a point. Google is the same. That’s why I left, and clearly I just left for another evil. Not the lesser of two evils. Just another equivalent.
At this point there is a mobile duopoly that is stifling innovation and harming the mobile tech world... and in this example extends to the internet itself.