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World's biggest drug bust

Mord said:
If you think an experience on MDMA is "not that good" then you've clearly either never tried the stuff or have very odd brain chemistry, The Meth high is also fairly well known to be *incredible*, I've never touched the latter for many many obvious reasons myself but to deny that it's an incredible high is frankly deluded. Ket I have a strong dislike for simply due to watching the physical effects on those I've seen on the stuff, they probably wouldn't do it if it wasn't fun but I still think it's retarded, GHB I have no experience of and have no desire to either.

The thing with drugs is that they can be and often are absolute great fun, people wouldn't do them if they were pants. To deny this is just silly. I'm not saying that they're without consequences all of them if taken in excess and some even if only dabbled in will *utterly* screw you up and perhaps leave you dead if you're lucky or insane trapped in a hellish psychosis if you're not.
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Sorry Mord, tried MDMA twice and frankly, you don't get much for what you pay, plus it speeds up time. How is that fun? And yeah, drugs can be a blast, but some are just stupid- heroin and meth come to mind. I've also tried K and that s*** is scary. GHB is also one that I never have and never will touch, just from seeing what it does.
 
Either you were sold something that was not MDMA or you simply react differently to it than most people. I may be biased by my sensitivity to the stuff though, the tiniest amount and I've got an ear-ear grin on my face for 12 hours.
 
Mord said:
Either you were sold something that was not MDMA or you simply react differently to it than most people. I may be biased by my sensitivity to the stuff though, the tiniest amount and I've got an ear-ear grin on my face for 12 hours.
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Perhaps, but everyone else I did it with seemed to think it was good stuff. I found it infuriatingly mild both times and don't get it. I was like, "I paid how much for this? Give me some acid instead!" Either way, doesn't matter- I'm too old for drugs now. I just don't bounce back from them like I did in my 20's, and I don't have the time it would take to recover from their effects and get back to normal. My God, I just realized it's been over ten years. :eek:
 
leekohler said:
I'm all for legalizing drugs- but ecstasy, meth, Special K, and GHB are BS. They're extremely dangerous (and not that good anyway), and anyone dumb enough to get hooked on any of them is gonna go down a very, very bad road.
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I'm writing a program in work to sift coroner's reports for mentions of drugs, of all kinds, that contribute to the cause of death. It's surprising what comes up and what doesn't.
 
leekohler said:
Perhaps, but everyone else I did it with seemed to think it was good stuff. I found it infuriatingly mild both times and don't get it. I was like, "I paid how much for this? Give me some acid instead!" Either way, doesn't matter- I'm too old for drugs now. I just don't bounce back from them like I did in my 20's, and I don't have the time it would take to recover from their effects and get back to normal. My God, I just realized it's been over ten years. :eek:
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Likely weird brain chemistry or prescription med you may have been on interfering with it, I do <3 my acid but nothing for me at least beats MD for sheer fun.

@bartelby, risk of death is fairly low with most things, it's not what one really needs to worry about more risk of insanity or lifelong depression from FUBAR brain chemistry.
 
Mord said:
Likely weird brain chemistry or prescription med you may have been on interfering with it, I do <3 my acid but nothing for me at least beats MD for sheer fun.

@bartelby, risk of death is fairly low with most things, it's not what one really needs to worry about more risk of insanity or lifelong depression from FUBAR brain chemistry.
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Meth also can do terrible, permanent damage. A friend of mine who is a former meth addict can't have kids now. It aggravated a condition that normally would have been be treatable. She ended up having a hysterectomy.

Like I said, I'm all for responsible drug use, but some drugs are just damn scary.
 
leekohler said:
Not me- that s*** ruins people's lives. I watched a former roommate and several other people I care about go down that road. I'm all for legalizing drugs- but ecstasy, meth, Special K, and GHB are BS. They're extremely dangerous (and not that good anyway), and anyone dumb enough to get hooked on any of them is gonna go down a very, very bad road.
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I don't know if I would put pure MDMA in the same category as Meth and GHB. MDMA is really only dangerous because of heat exhaustion, or adulterants.
 
iJohnHenry said:
Lee, excuse me for saying so, but I think it's about time you settled down.

Find someone you can at least tolerate, to grow old with.
:p
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Oh, I've had my share, iJohn. One was 5 years, the last two were two years each. Whoever it is has to be just as silly as me, just as ornery and also intelligent. I also absolutely insist they're outgoing. That's a tough combination. Then, they have to like me too. ;) I like to have fun, and I always manage to find it. The world and work are far too dreary to spend with someone who can't keep up with me, or drives me nuts or doesn't get me. I very much would like to meet that person. I'm working on it, don't worry. :)
 
iJohnHenry said:
Have you considered cloning?? :rolleyes:
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Ha! No- but I'm also very comfortable being single. I have many lovely friends who I spend lots of time with. I don't view relationships as a necessity, I view them as a bonus. If I end up with someone, great! If not, that's OK too. Life is too good to waste on worrying if that person is out there.
 
whooleytoo said:
I've often wondered if drugs were legalised (and if the negative stigma around them was diminished) would pharmaceutical companies - with all the skills and resources they possess - be able to devise newer, better recreational drugs without the addictive and harmful effects. It would be an enormous money-spinner for them.
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Just think! You could be rolling all night long when you take your flu immunization!
 
Unlikely, the only drugs that could be considered to be comedown free are the psychedelics however they don't typically really send you up, they just open your mind up, it's up to you where you take yourself.

Personally I'd like to see more research into 2cb, from everything I've read it's probably as harmless as anything fun could be and I find it an utterly charming intoxicant, just difficult to get hold of and schedule 1/class A for no good reason at all.
 
iJohnHenry said:
Wrong.

It, like pot, affects productivity, and you must keep working to feed the pyramid. :rolleyes:
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No it doesn't. I've never come across a shred of evidence that suggests that consuming the drug makes you less productive and I can state for an absolute fact that it has no effects like pot's demotivating haze.

I'm infinitely more productive the day after having done 2cb than I would be after a night of moderate drinking it isn't addictive and like LSD it's self regulating so you can't take it more often than every 5 days or so. As far as I can tell it was emergency scheduled because it was being used excessively in the rave scene.
 
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