Well the cheapest MacBook Air is 1200$ CAD. And is only a 13" display, which is hardly a desktop replacement. With a Mac Mini you get the same specs and I could easily add a 24" 1080p display and still keep the cost under 1000$.
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Worldwide Mac Sales Remain Steady in 4Q 2016 Amid Continuing PC Market Decline
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Well the cheapest MacBook Air is 1200$ CAD. And is only a 13" display, which is hardly a desktop replacement. With a Mac Mini you get the same specs and I could easily add a 24" 1080p display and still keep the cost under 1000$.
Buying a Kaby Lake Dell XPS 15 9560 with the 4K display touch display.
It's $1562 for the i7, 8gb ram and 256 ssd and the memory and hard drive are user upgradeable later.
Looks sexy and has all the ports you could want.
Windows 10 is fine with me.
A much better value than the current 15 inch macbook pro.
It's $1562 for the i7, 8gb ram and 256 ssd and the memory and hard drive are user upgradeable later.
Looks sexy and has all the ports you could want.
Windows 10 is fine with me.
A much better value than the current 15 inch macbook pro.
I'm gonna be a part of the Dell chart soon, still preparing myself to the switch!
Why would you do something like that to yourself?
Statistics can be very misleading. Are they measuring market share in dollars or number of notebooks? Are PC vendors selling more entry machines or top spec? A 1% capture of top end units could be a 10% capture of sales totals...or not.
They are only reporting laptops. Certainly iMac and Mac Pro sales are dipping in anticipation of new models.
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Exactly. Mac OS and Chrome are not competing. Chrome competes with tablets and low end PCs. These kind of bite sized statistics are always misleading taken in isolation.
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Yep. The writing is on the wall. Just like people who never open the hood of their car and have no desire to learn stick shift or advanced driving skills. There is a large segment of people who prefer an iOS type device. But there will be a strong need for a traditional operating system with file level access and a command shell for a long time.
The sales figures were through Q4 2016. Are you saying there was a bump in sales after Dec 31, 2016?
I'm holding a fist full of $$$ waiting for the iMac refresh. Please let it be in the next few months. If I have to wait longer I'll just buy a used iMac on the cheap and be unhappy.
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So I'll make a counter argument. I purchased a 13" macbook pro for around $1100 as a holdover for the new iMac's in early 2016. To be honest it has been a very solid machine and performs really well in gaming (I was very surprised). If I didn't want a bigger screen and hard drive space the Macbook Pro would be my go-to computer. I will say that I think that an iMac will have just a bit more longevity than the Macbook Pro but it has been an good holdover while I wait. If you are just doing business related stuff (email, word, excell, web apps, and such) this computer is more than sufficient. Just sayn'.
Folks don't complain about companies for not inventing something that doesn't exist. Why be bothered if a customer voices complaint about a lack of product support for an item that is not a big seller? What does it matter? Apple looks less appealing when it still carries their own very outdated products. Either bring them up to speed and make them truly great, or kill 'em. Looks like Thunderbolt display has finally died a slow death, but it was painful seeing it offered for several years with outdated specs but still for a premium price. Mac pro has been in this category for years … kinda embarrassing, and frustrating for those who've bought into that product ecosystem.
While the Mac Mini seems attractive to you, to most people it is not, otherwise it would sell in higher numbers.
I hope this is a sign for Apple to once again take the Mac seriously and give its due attention.
Sorry you feel that way about Dell computers. I have always used them, never had any major issues with them. I fact, I have 4 of them at home, ranging from 2 years to 5 years old, all running great. We used DELL computers for development at work, again, great machine, been using them and upgrading to new one here for years. In fact, we prefer them over any HP workstation that exists today. However, I will give HP it's props on their Business Laptops and Servers, they are rock solid.
Well, even this report shows Apple losing .5% market share since Q4 of 2015 (7.5% to 7.0%, respectively). So, both?
Oh its not attractive to me at all. 600$ for a desktop with crappy laptop internals? No way. If I want a desktop 600$ can net me a far better computer than the Mac Mini.
But, my point is, the Mac Mini is still the cheapest "new" Mac. Without the mini in the lineup the next cheapest "new" Mac is double the price.
Imagine if Apple actually TRIED. Or had a team of engineers dedicated to computers ( they don't! ). All product lines but the MacBook "Pro" are dead and they still achieved these numbers.
I assume Ive and Cook will spin these numbers as reason to EXIT the computer business.
I assume Ive and Cook will spin these numbers as reason to EXIT the computer business.
And this right here is the problem.
I know it's not for me, but "i think most people would rather...." Who are you to presume what most people would rather?
You've got it backwards. The most recent quarter is first on that chart.
The 7.0% number is from 4Q2015 and it went up to 7.5% in 4Q2016
But anyway... market share... by itself... doesn't really say a lot. It's a percentage based on what everyone else sold during the same quarter.
The more interesting number is that Apple increased their own unit sales from 5,312,000 units to 5,440,000 units year-over-year.
To me... that's what Apple should be concerned with (units sales)... and not where they happen to fall in the mix with every other PC maker combined (market share)
The problem with market share is that it includes ALL computers sold over a period of time.
One unit of a $300 Windows laptop counts the same as one unit of a $1,800 MacBook Pro. That kind of thinking never made sense to me.
Unfortunately... that's how market share is calculated. They simply add up all the computers sold during the quarter... then figure out the percentages sold by each manufacturer.
And since Apple only sells $1,000+ laptops... of course their percentage won't be as high as all the other PC makers.
It would be nice if these analysts could segment the PC market into various tiers. I mean... they've got $200 computers on the same chart with $2,000 computers and $12,000 computers. What's the point of that?
The automotive industry figured this out long ago. They don't put cheap hatchbacks on the same chart as expensive luxury sedans.
While there is a chart for total automobile sales... there are also separate charts for the various segments: compacts, sedans, crossovers, pickup trucks, etc. This is to show how similar things stack up against each other.
I think this same sorta thing would help analyze the PC market too.
Instead of saying "the entire PC market is down"... what if we knew what was happening inside the PC market?
What if the charts told us that cheap crappy PCs are trending down... and expensive premium PCs are trending up? That would be some good info to know.
Alas... all the chart says is "down" with no further explanation of what is actually happening.
We need context... not just charts showing raw percentages or units sales numbers.
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What, even in the top-of-the-line X360, is SUPERIOR to the 2016 15" tb MBP?
It's cheaper; but certainly not going to get any significatnly-better battery life with a 79 W/h battery, as opposed to the 76 W/h battery in the 15" MBP, regardless of what the lying spec-sheet says.
It's cheaper; but is just as obsessed with "thin" as the new MBP.
And the confusing array of ports (e.g., only ONE of the two USB-C ports supporting TB3???). Meanwhile, the MBP's industry-leading FOUR USB-C/TB3 Ports, with a whopping 80 Gbps of I/O bandwith, that can be broken-out into a wide-array of "legacy" ports to suit nearly any application (and certainly a lot more than the X360), and which can CHANGE as your needs grow/change, whips all over the HP.
Now, let's get to that display. Where's the 5k?. And the GPU. Where's the ability to drive up to FOUR external 4k displays or TWO external 5k Displays? You lose all that for a gimicky touchscreen that, according to people that actually have laptops with touchscreens, Windows 10 hardly really supports, despite what the TV commercials try to show, and which has even less third-party App support.
And now, let's talk about the OS... Windows HOME? That's about as "non-Pro" as it gets. And of course, regardless, we're talking about Windows 10, Spyware Edition... Have fun with that!
Yeah, that's how you do a computer. For 2014.
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/envy---omen/spectre-x360-211501--1#