It's cheaper; but certainly not going to get any significatnly-better battery life with a 79 W/h battery, as opposed to the 76 W/h battery in the 15" MBP, regardless of what the lying spec-sheet says.
So? It's got a better display - both in pixels and DPI (4k vs QHD). I'd rather have 1/2-3/4 day battery life with the HP vs poor battery life of the new MBP. I like that they made it a mm thicker (or whatever it was) to keep battery life.
As for cheaper - I paid $1499 for the HP. The closest 15" MBP is $2799. $1300 more expensive. To put that in perspective I could almost buy 2 HP's for the price of one MBP. The MBP isn't THAT good.
And the confusing array of ports (e.g., only ONE of the two USB-C ports supporting TB3???). Meanwhile, the MBP's industry-leading FOUR USB-C/TB3 Ports, with a whopping 80 Gbps of I/O bandwith, that can be broken-out into a wide-array of "legacy" ports to suit nearly any application (and certainly a lot more than the X360), and which can CHANGE as your needs grow/change, whips all over the HP.
LOL. Few, if any people will use Thunderbolt - most will use USB 3.1 and that's a
FACT. We're up to TB 3 and people barely know what it is and peripherals are near non-existant. And the fact that HP put in a regular old USB port is perfect. When I was explaining to friends why I went PC this time - I said about the new USB C ports and the needs for Dongles or new cables for ALL your stuff. The stares were priceless. They pulled out the iPhone cord and wondered how Apple could have been so stupid to not allow you to connect your phone! A USBA port could have easily been put in there.
Now, let's get to that display. Where's the 5k?. And the GPU. Where's the ability to drive up to FOUR external 4k displays or TWO external 5k Displays?
Again something few will ever use in the next 3-5 years. The $1300 price puts them out of the reach for most. 4k will be where it goes for a while as you get the economies of scale from the TV panels.
You lose all that for a gimicky touchscreen that, according to people that actually have laptops with touchscreens, Windows 10 hardly really supports, despite what the TV commercials try to show, and which has even less third-party App support.
Spoken as someone who has no clue. I had a Yoga 710 for 2 weeks. The touchscreen was great. I was able to swipe, click, and draw on most applications. Because it was not a pen enabled display, Photoshop and Lightroom only supported it at the most basic level. But it was an awesome cross between an iPad and a laptop. I was able to sign a PDF, edit photos, flip it on its back and use as a tablet, and even flip it around and use it as a very comfortable computer in bed with the screen and touch keyboard.
With pen support it's a Wacom Centiq-like experience so PS and LR will work as they would with one of those graphics tablets hooked up. It should be quite good.
And now, let's talk about the OS... Windows HOME? That's about as "non-Pro" as it gets. And of course, regardless, we're talking about Windows 10, Spyware Edition... Have fun with that!
So? It's a consumer machine. They make a version called the EliteBook x360 aimed at the business with Win10 pro on it. Or pay the $99 to upgrade.
Look, I'm as much an Apple fan as anyone else. I'm also a shareholder. The stuff Apple is putting out now is just not that good and getting lost in the marketplace. It may be forward thinking but they are forgetting the past like they never have before.[/QUOTE]
