i think if you are planning on doing anything beyond light browsing, email, itunes, etc, it's going to be atough. a good barometer from the past would probably be the original macbook air. if that was fine for you when it was released, this one will be fine for you now
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i think if you are planning on doing anything beyond light browsing, email, itunes, etc, it's going to be atough. a good barometer from the past would probably be the original macbook air. if that was fine for you when it was released, this one will be fine for you now
So you've used a current core-m with OS X? I really think people are underestimating the chip and Apple this time around.
We will all see very soon.........
I'm pretty sure you're right on this. I don't see Apple releasing a sub-par computer.
Wait.... In a spec race, is there a example where apple has A product that is better value?
No, but most of us with our main computer we do more than web,itunes,movies etc
Encoding and everything that works great on quad cores, will not work almost at all here
If you need a quad core processor for encoding and serious photo/video work, you obviously won't be looking to buy a Core M powered laptop as your main machine
If you are, you buy a rMBP 15. Pretty easy to figure out.If you need a quad core processor for encoding and serious photo/video work, you obviously won't be looking to buy a Core M powered laptop as your main machine
Then why have you been telling people for who the performance of the rMB would suffice that they would be better off with an iPad or a 13" rMBP?
Im starting to come around on the MB. Besides, I have been telling that mostly to people asking which they should choose between the MB and MBP, not people dead set on the MB.
Gotcha. I'm going for the 1.3GHz anyway, which looks like it should be up to par with the recent Air models.
If you need a quad core processor for encoding and serious photo/video work, you obviously won't be looking to buy a Core M powered laptop as your main machine
I was talking to Gav2k, so show some respect
For basic tasks and short-periods of more intensive tasks, possibly. But I would be very surprised if that turbo-boost frequency is going to be sustainable for longer than a matter of minutes. I may well be proven wrong. If it's the same performance as the Air, why have two product lines?
It'll be interesting to see if the 1.3 turbo boost thermal throttles before the 1.1 or 1.2 and, as a result, which one would actually get the bigger tasks done quicker.
I realise none of this really matters to me or a lot of others who are looking at this product. It's just a more functional iPad, at least for me.
Honestly my reply would have been the same. This machine isn't a heavy lifter. It's designed and fit for purpose. Encoding etc isn't its purpose.
You said "I really think people are underestimating the chip and Apple this time around. "
So for that i comment earlier
How can you say that to those who make video editing or something cpu intensive?
Its clear that is a low cpu for heavy tasking, for a main computer or only computer
Yea i will buy for extra portability and ending the tasks or daily basics because i have a 15" mbp and the imac ..so the macbook CAN'T be the main computer.Maybe for those who only for those who makes mail, read books, web, write books etc
So for that i comment earlier
How can you say that to those who make video editing or something cpu intensive?
Its clear that is a low cpu for heavy tasking, for a main computer or only computer
Yea i will buy for extra portability and ending the tasks or daily basics because i have a 15" mbp and the imac ..so the macbook CAN'T be the main computer.Maybe for those who only for those who makes mail, read books, web, write books etc
I am an engineer and I will be using the rMB as my only computer. I like the portability. I will do a lot more than just email, web browsing, and writing.
I expect to require burst of CPU power but anything requiring lots of power for extended periods of time will be run over lunch or at night.
I will do some CAD, too. I may get an external monitor eventually but the high resolution display may be good enough.
People are basing the performance on the Lenovo reviews and last generation reviews. This chip is different especially in the turbo boost department. Add also updated gfx, faster memory and PCI-e ssd and it should be snappy.
What we need to know is how the thermal management is on this machine. If it can turbo all day long without throttling it'll be amazing, but again that's an engineering task I hope apple has nailed!
How can you say it's a low cpu for heavy tasking? It's a core m that's the middle ground between the atom (which in its current state is no slouch) and the i- series chips.
The chip is capable of heavy lifting it'll just be slower at said task.
Though I expect to use the rMB as my only computer I think you're hoping for something that isn't realistic.
iRun26.2, I don't know whether the new rMB will be able to meet your needs as an engineer.
Anyway, you will have two weeks to check.
Anyway, you will have two weeks to check.
But then so was the 1st Gen MBA? I bet that if one would go back, and check commentary aimed at the MBA, in comparing it to the MBPs of the time - one would also find the "sacrificing power for portability" etc. etc. arguments made there, in pretty much the same fashion as is being made here...
Would I buy a rMP? Probably not. I need 16GBs of RAM to run virtual machines, video rendering etc., and I appreciate the extra grunt - a worthwhile compromise for the (slightly) bigger weight/size etc.
But were I to have a current MBA, or were I to be considering a MBA since I only do X/Y/Z that doesn't require the extra grunt under the hood - then the rMB would certainly have entered my frame of reference...
Different strokes for different folks. And yes - there might be PC options that offer 'better' specs, for less price - but to simply call them "better-valued" on the basis of specs, leaves plenty out of the equation.
I'm heavily invested in OSX - yes, it's not without its issues - and yes, Win10 might be a huge improvement - but until the Windows world offers me the ease of use to construct workflows like I can in OSX, any PC will simply not be an option for me.
And until a PC, specs aside, can offer me the same user experience of a Mac trackpad, and the OS integration therewith, it's also not an option for me.
So, in *my* world - PCs offer better specs at cheaper prices - but that's where it ends. I will still get "more" out of a MBA/MP/MBP running OSX, and I'll gladly pay the price premium. It remains "better value" for me to do so.
I have already been using my 2010 11" MBA for my work for the last two years. The rMB should be a nice upgrade for me.
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If you guys haven't checked out this thread yet you definitely should: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1861954/
If the benchmarks of the russian guy in there are valid then the 1.3ghz option is as fast as the base 2015 i5 Macbook Air. So that means it is not nearly as slow as some here are trying to make it. Need some official reviews already to see some number that we can compare.
I see it similiar to Gav2k that most ppl got a false impression of the horrible failure from Lenovo with the Yoga 3. You should rather go with the reviews of the Asus but keep in mind that is only the 800 Mhz Version. The MB will have plenty of power for everything and if you need more power then the Air is not a valid alternative but only the MBP it seems.
If the benchmarks of the russian guy in there are valid then the 1.3ghz option is as fast as the base 2015 i5 Macbook Air. So that means it is not nearly as slow as some here are trying to make it. Need some official reviews already to see some number that we can compare.
I see it similiar to Gav2k that most ppl got a false impression of the horrible failure from Lenovo with the Yoga 3. You should rather go with the reviews of the Asus but keep in mind that is only the 800 Mhz Version. The MB will have plenty of power for everything and if you need more power then the Air is not a valid alternative but only the MBP it seems.
People will need to be cautious when interpreting benchmarks. They need to understand their requirements as well. The MB will not handle a continuous workload. Hopefully reviews capture this. How hard can you drive the cpu before it throttles?
In that thread the russian guys also stated that they played Diablo and did some photo/video editing for more than an hour without a problem. but yea can't wait for the reviews to pop up or rather test my own which ever is earlier
I would love to see what kind of FPS they get in Diablo III...!