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What part of Refurbished do you not understand? Its NOT brand new :rolleyes:

Provide me a source of your information confirming they re-case! We are talking about re-caseing the iphone and not reboxing (white box)!

Been around long enough to realize people come to conclusions without any evidence. Some don't even know what Refurb means, hence it can feel like brand new, but its not, someone has owned that before you ;)

I never said a refurb is brand new, did I? I am saying that Apple takes "returned" iphones back and recases them and uses them as refurbs. That is fact.

Explain the difference in how new phone and a refurb "feels":p
 
I never said a refurb is brand new, did I? I am saying that Apple takes "returned" iphones back and recases them and uses them as refurbs. That is fact.

Explain the difference in how new phone and a refurb "feels":p

orly...

waste this OPs time and explain to him how every refurbs comes with a brand new case.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1741079/

Feel free to provide a link that acknowledges apple recases all refurbs.
 
orly...:rolleyes:

Apple has options and in the case they decided not to give the OP a new phone. They are not obligated to do so.

Gone to work:)

Your wasting my time. Like I said, explain to the OP how he got a brand new case....

1. you cannot provide any evidence.
2. OP got a refurb that did not have a new case - SCRATCHES AND DENTS, THAT IS THE ISSUE ;) ie the case was not new.

Is comprehension that hard??? How on earth did you miss the point of the OPs post on that threat... wow....!!!!!

It's okay, the Internet does not stop goes you went to work ;)
 
Looks like normal wear and tear to me. Phones get bashed every now and then when used daily. I would be very disappointed if Apple didn't honour a warranty just because of a minor dent.
 
Your wasting my time. Like I said, explain to the OP how he got a brand new case....

1. you cannot provide any evidence.
2. OP got a refurb that did not have a new case - SCRATCHES AND DENTS, THAT IS THE ISSUE ;) ie the case was not new.

Is comprehension that hard??? How on earth did you miss the point of the OPs post on that threat... wow....!!!!!

It's okay, the Internet does not stop goes you went to work ;)

Maybe if you worked . . . . :p
 
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I was wrong about comprehension being the only problem :p

You are wrong about way more than that. You are down pointing out a typing error. Just try looking for a job:rolleyes:

I am done here as too many other agree with my refurbished statement but some have troublke with the truth.

Have a great day:)
 
You are wrong about way more than that. You are down pointing out a typing error. Just try looking for a job:rolleyes:

I am done here as too many other agree with my refurbished statement but some have troublke with the truth.

Have a great day:)

Thanks for the chat.

I don't have a job.... wow that is news to me :)

Any time you want, please feel free to provide some evidence to support your claims.

I am more than happy to be proven wrong that every refurb has a new case, I actually wish its true. I though suspect Apple would only replace the cases they need to, if they get a phone back that is in great condition, why on earth would they replace the case. It would be on a need basis.
 
Thanks for the chat.

I don't have a job.... wow that is news to me :)

Any time you want, please feel free to provide some evidence to support your claims.

I am more than happy to be proven wrong that every refurb has a new case, I actually wish its true. I though suspect Apple would only replace the cases they need to, if they get a phone back that is in great condition, why on earth would they replace the case. It would be on a need basis.

Just because Apple doesn't post a link on their website sayng "Hey, by the way, we re-case our replacement phones... here are all the details so you can prove we do to someone in a forum that refuses to believe it" doesn't mean they don't.

I get it. You need proof. Good for you. Keep living in fantasyland that just because you can't find a statement issued by Apple (and somehow I think even if there was you'd try to discredit it anyway) that it doesn't happen. They do it. They have done it. They CONTINUE to do it.

What DO you think they do with all those returns/repairs? Melt them down?

Sorry to burst the bubble. It's refurb city. New shell, old internals.

And YES, as I stated in my first post, there are a few days (sometimes weeks) right after a launch where a white box is really "brand new" (because there just isn't much stock TO refurb at that point). But luckily, after things like "scuffgate", and "but I wanted a gold one but had to settle for a grey one to have one the first day because I'm too entitled to wait-gate" provide tons and tons of used returned stock, Apple simply slaps a new case on it, and uses it as a replacement.
 
What part of Refurbished do you not understand? Its NOT brand new :rolleyes:

Provide me a source of your information confirming they re-case! We are talking about re-caseing the iphone and not reboxing (white box)!

Been around long enough to realize people come to conclusions without any evidence. Some don't even know what Refurb means, hence it can feel like brand new, but its not, someone has owned that before you ;)

Part of me thinks you're trolling, but anyway: I spoke to a Genius about the refurb process, and he unequivocally said they put a new exterior on the phones, and replace any components that may wear (e.g. Battery), before they are tested and packaged in white boxes. Proof? Perhaps not to you. But thousands of people get refurbs every day and next to nobody complains about the exterior. Sure, they can get scratched, but so can brand new ones? Really proves nothing if it's scratched.

I really don't understand people's aversion to refurbished phones. In a lot of ways, they're better than new as they're fully tested and cosmetically identical to a brand new phone.

What are people worried about, another user's taken a photo on the now-wiped storage and possibly paged into the RAM while playing Candy Crush on the now-new screen? :rolleyes: Get over yourselves.
 
You are wrong about way more than that. You are down pointing out a typing error. Just try looking for a job:rolleyes:

I am done here as too many other agree with my refurbished statement but some have troublke with the truth.

Have a great day:)

You too buddy !!! And good luck in school this year!
 
Just because Apple doesn't post a link on their website sayng "Hey, by the way, we re-case our replacement phones... here are all the details so you can prove we do to someone in a forum that refuses to believe it" doesn't mean they don't.

I get it. You need proof. Good for you. Keep living in fantasyland that just because you can't find a statement issued by Apple (and somehow I think even if there was you'd try to discredit it anyway) that it doesn't happen. They do it. They have done it. They CONTINUE to do it.

What DO you think they do with all those returns/repairs? Melt them down?

Sorry to burst the bubble. It's refurb city. New shell, old internals.

And YES, as I stated in my first post, there are a few days (sometimes weeks) right after a launch where a white box is really "brand new" (because there just isn't much stock TO refurb at that point). But luckily, after things like "scuffgate", and "but I wanted a gold one but had to settle for a grey one to have one the first day because I'm too entitled to wait-gate" provide tons and tons of used returned stock, Apple simply slaps a new case on it, and uses it as a replacement.

Read the thread sunshine. Thanks for the rant , but I already acknowledged I was wrong about the recasing when I had a conversation with one of the guys on here that worked in retail apple ! That's good enough for me , some one who actually worked for apple. Though geez there are a lot of people who just jump on a bandwagon without any proof and recite it as gospel!

The part you bothered to reply was me pointing out that refurb is not brand new. As you stated old internals A refurb by definition cannot be brand new.
 
Part of me thinks you're trolling, but anyway: I spoke to a Genius about the refurb process, and he unequivocally said they put a new exterior on the phones, and replace any components that may wear (e.g. Battery), before they are tested and packaged in white boxes. Proof? Perhaps not to you. But thousands of people get refurbs every day and next to nobody complains about the exterior. Sure, they can get scratched, but so can brand new ones? Really proves nothing if it's scratched.

I really don't understand people's aversion to refurbished phones. In a lot of ways, they're better than new as they're fully tested and cosmetically identical to a brand new phone.

What are people worried about, another user's taken a photo on the now-wiped storage and possibly paged into the RAM while playing Candy Crush on the now-new screen? :rolleyes: Get over yourselves.


I actually agreed that they recase and I was wrong back in the thread. Talking to someone who worked in retail was good enough.

He had first hand evidence, the point I was making to a few of the other posters is that they were 100% certain they were recased and none of them had any evidence of it. If they had even bothered to read this thread they could have pointed out the fact that someone who worded in retail pointed it out to me in this very thread, shows how people jump in post thier opinions and don't even bother to read the context.

Though I may not have been clear enough I was also pointing out to people that refurbs in the industry are not brand new. Not just iPhone refurbs.

I also acknowledged why iPads and iPods have to be recased as the serial number is on the case. I also pointed out the fact that the serial number on the iPhones is on the sim tray, so given that fact, apple does not have to recase the iPhones . Which everyone has conveniently ignored, I even pointed out why recase a iPhone that comes back in perfect condition?? Just replace the sim tray.

They would have had to recase the early iPhones due to serial numbers on the case, but the new ones have them on the tray. So is it that crazy that the refurb process May not have changed ? Maybe Apple put the serial number on the tray to avoid all the wastage . I don't know, but these are my ideas around the subject.

People fail to understand that recasing was necessary for legal reasons due to the serial number, which was linked to previous owners. Remove the serial number off the case, and the 100% recasing due to this requirement goes away.

Am I still trolling? Or can this be considered a discussion point?
 
yea it doesn't look that bad and it doesn't look purposely done. tell them its regular wear and tear. besides image retention is a hardware defect not because it was dropped or scratched. tell them that and insist anyone should know that. u should be fine OP, good luck.
 
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