Would you buy a NEW, sealed in box mid-2015 15" MBP today?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by puma1552, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:51 AM.

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Would you buy a new, mid-2015 MBP going into 2019?

  1. Yes - 2.2/256

    6 vote(s)
    18.8%
  2. Yes - 2.5/512

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. No - that thing is going on 4 years old and eventually Apple will fix the keyboards on current MBP

    18 vote(s)
    56.3%
  1. puma1552, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:51 AM
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    puma1552 macrumors 603

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    If you could get either of these configurations, new (not refurbs), sealed in box, would you?

    2.2 GHz i7
    16 GB RAM (1600 MHz DDR3L)
    256 SSD
    (I think this model only has integrated graphics?)
    $1799

    2.5 GHz i7
    16 GB RAM (1600 MHz DDR3L)
    512 SSD
    (I think this model has a dedicated graphics card?)
    $2299

    Would you? The mid-2015 is considered by many to be the best Macbook Pro built due to the keyboard and ports. I'm all for moving on in terms of ports so that part doesn't really matter to me, and if Apple could get their **** together and deliver a machine without any known issues at time of initial purchase (keyboards), I don't think I'd even ask this question since I could probably deal with the tactile feel of the new keyboards. But here we are.
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

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    No, the price is way too high for such old technology.
     
  3. trifid macrumors 68000

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    Why new? Get them used, I have that second one you listed, 2015 2.5ghz i7 16GB 512 SSD and Nvidia 750 GPU for $1300 on ebay, not a single scratch. I've gone through a few that way, 2013 and 2014 MBP are rock solid as well. This is by far the best value for your money.
     
  4. leman macrumors G3

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    Certainly not for that price. Sure, if I had financial problems and still needed a Mac, I'd consider using the 2015 model in spite of its wobbly keyboard and higher weight, but I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a unit in good condition.
     
  5. MacNut macrumors Core

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    No, why buy old equipment that will not be supported soon.
     
  6. yukari macrumors 6502

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  7. StellarVixen macrumors 6502a

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    To buy a MBP, only to be left without Mac OS support 2-3 years later? No, thanks. I buy hardware that I can use for years.
     
  8. cynics macrumors G4

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    No. Sealed in box is nice but its not "new" its just not used. Its essentially just as outdated as a used one but more expensive.

    eBay
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    For a couple hundred more you could get this from Apple which carries a 1 year warranty and is essentially a new model.

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  9. Nbd1790 macrumors member

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    If you were to buy the older model, I would prefer used. I paid about $1400 for my 2013 15 inch back in 2014/2015 which has max specs (i7 16gb 750 SSD) and still had Applecare at the time. Although a great reliable machine, I would have a hard time justifying that price considering you can get brand new 2017 models from b&h with a 1tb SSD for $2500
     
  10. puma1552 thread starter macrumors 603

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    In fairness, I would expect 4-5 additional years of OS support - my Mid-2010 is supported through High Sierra, which up until a month ago was the current OS.
     
  11. trifid macrumors 68000

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    The 2016, 2017, 2018 MBP have keyboards that will stop working in a few years, after so much complaints and admitting the fault, Apple made a "repair program" but it lasts only 4 years. So that $2500 machine will last you only 4 years, after which your keyboard might very likely fail and you'll have to pay a fortune to fix.

    ANY DEBRIS will KILL your thin 2016, 2017, 2018 keyboard. You only got 4 years from that $2500 investment. Yes 2018 has a little silicone layer, how long do you think that will last?

    Think about it. It might be smarter to buy a $1300 2015 MBP, and in 2-3 years sell it and buy a better MBP that hopefully will have a robust keyboard.
     
  12. Eternal 28 macrumors 6502

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    That’s exactly what I did. I recently bought a mint condition 2015 15” MacBook Pro for $1050. I even upgraded the base 256GB SSD to a 960GB nVME drive. It still has the one year factory warranty and I’m going to use it until the 2020 MacBook Pro comes out. Hopefully by then we will get a full Redesign with a much more reliable keyboard.
     
  13. trifid macrumors 68000

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    Wait how did you do this? My understanding is that only Apple and OWC drives can be installed in the MBP due to proprietary Apple firmware, is there a new workaround to getting Samsung NVMe installed?
     
  14. Eternal 28 macrumors 6502

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    You’ll have to use a Sintech long NVME adapter revision C. The best drive for the lowest power consumption and performance is the ADATA SX8200. The Samsung 970 drives consume way too much power and they tend to get hot.

    Check out this thread.
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/upgrading-2013-2014-macbook-pro-ssd-to-m-2-nvme.2034976/page-97
    --- Post Merged, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:46 PM ---
    Since Apple just stopped selling these as of July 2018. These units should be supported until 2023.
     
  15. Pangalactic macrumors 6502

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    Not to say that I like the new keyboards, but what on earth will happen to silicone? It's a pretty stable chemical product
     
  16. StellarVixen macrumors 6502a

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    Good thing is that on the Internet, you can say whatever you want, without any worry about if that what you said is true or not.
     
  17. trifid macrumors 68000

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    It's a thin membrane prone to wear and tear. While many have said it helps with the issue, it's more of a workaround, not a solid fix and it has yet to be determined how effective and how long that will last.
     
  18. boomlapop macrumors newbie

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    I also just bought a NOS 2015 15" Macbook Pro this summer, found a sweet deal on eBay for $1100, brand spanking new.
    I really saw nothing in these newer MBPs that lured me in, especially at those prices.
    First of all, this 2015 MBP may go down as Apple's last war hero laptop, it's got PORTS, for one.
    USB3, Thunderbolt, HDMI, SD card, you name it.
    And no ugly ass Touch Bar, which I know is subjective, but I personally hate the look of it.

    Oh and hardly "old technology", really not that different than its newer siblings in terms of CPU and RAM.
    This thing should still get a lot of work done for at least the next 4-5 years.
    It actually boots into High Sierra faster than my friends' 2017 model, no joke.

    So my short answer would be yes, if you can find one in great condition for less than $1500, go for it.

    Only caveat, yes it came with the 256 GB ssd, though about OWC Aura Pro but too many negative reviews about overheating. I was just turned onto this site which offers interesting deals for SSD upgrades. No adapter needed, I think I'll be ordering the 1TB soon.

    https://www.ebay.com/str/HatSSD/
     
  19. mar58 macrumors newbie

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    I have the middle one (2.5 Ghz) and absolutely love it. I plan to keep it until it’s totally unusable, BUT.....that price is, at least, $800 to high now.
     
  20. Sterkenburg macrumors 6502

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    The 2015 MBP is an exceptional machine, but an old model nevertheless, 3 newer iterations having come out since its release. It's difficult to recommend spending more than $1000 on one of those.
     
  21. puma1552 thread starter macrumors 603

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    The mid-2015 has a Thunderbolt 2 port, which should natively drive an old 2008 24" Apple LED Cinema Display (which uses mini-displayport), correct?
     
  22. xxray macrumors 6502a

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    No. I’ve always liked the post-2016 models better and I wouldn’t buy a laptop with a year old specs, let alone 3-4 years old.
     
  23. maxgts macrumors regular

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    As long as you’re okay buying a laptop with a poorly designed, fragile keyboard.
     

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