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Would you find apple watch even more useful with the air pods?

Arran said:
It's probably do-able. Bragi Dash already has a similar scheme with tons of commands, but I found it too complicated to be useful. It reminded me of morse code. You need a really good memory and good tapping skills:

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And I kept triggering random commands whenever I simply adjusted the units in my ears. It was then a pain undoing those commands (assuming I knew what they were in the first place and what tap sequence was needed to undo it). Exasperating to say the least.
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Those are a lot of commands. But after while
With muscle memory, it's likely it would be easier. And you may not even use all those functions pending the function.
 
3lionsbecks said:
I'd have to say that audiophiles are a lot like wine connoisseurs. Sure they appreciate the fine distinction and subtleties of different and expensive wines ... but for the average person they will be just as happy (or more so even) with a $15 dollar bottle of wine that is popular/recommended.

For most of us the regular headphones are certainly more than "good enough" for our needs.

I am usually listening to music while running/working out and/or shovelling snow this time of year. High end audio isn't really needed for those activities
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I totally agree, I have a cheap pair from Amazon for running that cost like £20.

I was more pointing out that everyone has their opinions and are therefore entitled to such.

The problem with Apple, Bose and Beats (as examples) is that they spend many, many times more in marketing than other companies and also pay magazines and shops to push their products. To the normal man on the street that doesn't know better they easily buy into this and therefore end up with an inferior product. Yes, they may not notice as they haven't done comparisons, but they could have potentially got something much better sounding for much cheaper if they'd done some research.
 
Arran said:
It's probably do-able. Bragi Dash already has a similar scheme with tons of commands, but I found it too complicated to be useful. It reminded me of morse code. You need a really good memory and good tapping skills:

Touch-controls---ALL.png


And I kept triggering random commands whenever I simply adjusted the units in my ears. It was then a pain undoing those commands (assuming I knew what they were in the first place and what tap sequence was needed to undo it). Exasperating to say the least.
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Lol I've seen that before, and I've seen several users complain that the touch target area is hard to hit accurately. Is that true?

There's no way I'd be remembering all of those commands, hah.
 
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profets said:
Lol I've seen that before, and I've seen several users complain that the touch target area is hard to hit accurately. Is that true?

There's no way I'd be remembering all of those commands, hah.
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I only kept mine for a couple of days before returning them to Costco. But yes, I found them hard to adjust properly to get a good seal in my ears and so I kept touching the touch target inadvertently and setting off unwanted commands. That was partly because they lie flush with your ears when they're in. I thought that would be a good thing (good aesthetics and nothing protruding outside to get caught on things like headrests or hoodies) but in reality it made them really hard to grip to adjust or remove.

And when they were in properly, I often found myself hitting the wrong area a lot and not triggering the command I wanted. The touch target is the lower half only.
 
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Arran said:
It's probably do-able. Bragi Dash already has a similar scheme with tons of commands, but I found it too complicated to be useful. It reminded me of morse code. You need a really good memory and good tapping skills:

Touch-controls---ALL.png


And I kept triggering random commands whenever I simply adjusted the units in my ears. It was then a pain undoing those commands (assuming I knew what they were in the first place and what tap sequence was needed to undo it). Exasperating to say the least.
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What's so hard in remembering all this?

Ask any teen.

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abdulkar.im said:
Check out Head-Fi Forum or other reputable sites.
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abdulkar.im said:
They are in my opinion and many people that actually care for sound also agree with me. We all have opinions and that's cool.
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Ok I did what you said and quess what? Head-fi gives a four star and rate the wired Apple buds quite well.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/apple-earpods-with-remote-and-mic

No reviews on the Bluetooth pods yet, but if they are like the wired, well it got a 92% approval on your legit site.
 
bjet767 said:
Ok I did what you said and quess what? Head-fi gives a four star and rate the wired Apple buds quite well.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/apple-earpods-with-remote-and-mic

No reviews on the Bluetooth pods yet, but if they are like the wired, well it got a 92% approval on your legit site.
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You want to read proper contributors, not the random people that can just sign up and post reviews. That's like listening to the randoms on here who know nothing about Apple products.

They're fine for free headphones, but are far too bright, have a serious lack of bass as they are not sealed, leak far too much sound and the general fit is pretty awkward for a lot of people.
 
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Ok in the end your random opinion is better than the other 92% random opinions, I get it. :cool:

My point is yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but many disagree with us. It just seems those who disagree are a lot more vocal about it and insist the contrary has no idea what they are writing about.

My opinion on Bose products in general is this; they are some of the best sound devices made. However, I do not think they are superior enough to pay the premium prices charged for them. Of course I understand those that do pay the freight basically know (for them) they are worth it and so may I in the future.

I'm on the fence for the new wireless pods, not because of the sound, right now they may cost too much for how I perceive their overall value. I may get them after seeing and trying them at the Apple Store.

o_O:apple:
 
bjet767 said:
Ok in the end your random opinion is better than the other 92% random opinions, I get it. :cool:

My point is yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but many disagree with us. It just seems those who disagree are a lot more vocal about it and insist the contrary has no idea what they are writing about.

My opinion on Bose products in general is this; they are some of the best sound devices made. However, I do not think they are superior enough to pay the premium prices charged for them. Of course I understand those that do pay the freight basically know (for them) they are worth it and so may I in the future.

I'm on the fence for the new wireless pods, not because of the sound, right now they may cost too much for how I perceive their overall value. I may get them after seeing and trying them at the Apple Store.

o_O:apple:
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That's 92% of only 12 people that reviewed them though. The audiophiles on that site wouldn't even waste their time posting reviews about Apple headphones. I would therefore take that percentage with a pinch of salt.

I'm personally only vocal on the subject as I don't want people wasting money on inferior products, that's the only reason. I spend far too many hours researching, attending headphone conventions etc, not to pass on my knowledge. If you chose to take it cool, if not, that's cool too.

For example the Bose QC35, good noise cancellation, bass ok, the other frequencies lacking. The Sony MDR1000X are a much better alternative in every aspect, but are obviously not as pushed as Bose, so will therefore sell less.

The B&W P7 are by far the best non-ANC Bluetooth headphones on the market, but once again do not have the marketing of Bose, so therefore will not sell as many units.
 
abdulkar.im said:
I'm personally only vocal on the subject as I don't want people wasting money on inferior products, that's the only reason. I spend far too many hours researching, attending headphone conventions etc, not to pass on my knowledge. If you chose to take it cool, if not, that's cool too.
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You know what? Reasonable people actually post the real issues like the sound ranges and how others might be superior or inferior rather than just say they are "rubbish."

If you are an "expert" and enjoy the quality of other devices let us know about the whys and I would have appreciated that kind of information from you.

As I stated in a previous post I did a fair amount of research, including reviews, and chose a mid-priced Skull Candy buds a few years few years ago to improve on the Apple buds. My experience was eventually negative after using the SCs for a time.

The first was the sound quality; the SC I purchased lacked a bass, the brightness was inferior and the output required a higher volume setting*.

Second; the actual buds fit really poorly and made my ears hurt after extended wear*.

Third; the cords, hardware and switches were inferior*.

*All of these are in relation to Apple's buds.

I did try some higher priced SH buds and found little difference with Apple so I've sticked with Apple since.

My sons agree with me on SC but were willing to spend double that amount for more high end brands (which I can't remember the names right now).

In the end our opinions and choices are based on more than one item and it all adds up to perceived value for our $$.

That is something I believe Steve Jobs learned and applied in his years at the helm of Apple. Did he pass that on to Cook? Time will tell how his legacy is measured.
 
bjet767 said:
You know what? Reasonable people actually post the real issues like the sound ranges and how others might be superior or inferior rather than just say they are "rubbish."

If you are an "expert" and enjoy the quality of other devices let us know about the whys and I would have appreciated that kind of information from you.

As I stated in a previous post I did a fair amount of research, including reviews, and chose a mid-priced Skull Candy buds a few years few years ago to improve on the Apple buds. My experience was eventually negative after using the SCs for a time.

The first was the sound quality; the SC I purchased lacked a bass, the brightness was inferior and the output required a higher volume setting*.

Second; the actual buds fit really poorly and made my ears hurt after extended wear*.

Third; the cords, hardware and switches were inferior*.

*All of these are in relation to Apple's buds.

I did try some higher priced SH buds and found little difference with Apple so I've sticked with Apple since.

My sons agree with me on SC but were willing to spend double that amount for more high end brands (which I can't remember the names right now).

In the end our opinions and choices are based on more than one item and it all adds up to perceived value for our $$.

That is something I believe Steve Jobs learned and applied in his years at the helm of Apple. Did he pass that on to Cook? Time will tell how his legacy is measured.
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I never even said they sound rubbish, I quoted a previous post and gave my opinion on the B&O H5. I actually said...

"Totally agree that they'll sound pants for people that actually value sound quality". I didn't need to go into my reasons why I think that, but I did later on in the thread anyway.
 
abdulkar.im said:
I never even said they sound rubbish, I quoted a previous post and gave my opinion on the B&O H5. I actually said...

"Totally agree that they'll sound pants for people that actually value sound quality". I didn't need to go into my reasons why I think that, but I did later on in the thread anyway.
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This is getting silly. I enjoy high quality sound reproduction. I have STAX Lambda Pro headphones paired with a STAX SRM-T1 tube amp for my home listening, and use Etymotics for on the go (such as long flights). Anyone doing any seriously critical listening would not likely be using an iPhone as the source component nor using a Bluetooth connection.

The AirBuds should be perfect for me for the purposes for which I have bought them, and I am looking forward to finding out when I receive them.
 
KennethS said:
This is getting silly. I enjoy high quality sound reproduction. I have STAX Lambda Pro headphones paired with a STAX SRM-T1 tube amp for my home listening, and use Etymotics for on the go (such as long flights). Anyone doing any seriously critical listening would not likely be using an iPhone as the source component nor using a Bluetooth connection.

The AirBuds should be perfect for me for the purposes for which I have bought them, and I am looking forward to finding out when I receive them.
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I agree it is, one comment totally blown out of proportion!
 
Ffosse said:
The airpods are meant to have the same sound quality as the earpods (rubbish)
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Abdul...

That was the original post I commented on and from which my comment you seemed to agree with.

I like real exchange and these Mac rumors threads are filled with haters and people who seem to just proclaim something and therefore it is true. Well it's not as we now seem to agree, the new Apple Pods are probably going to be a very popular product and actuality, in my opinion, will bust open the consumer high end Bluetooth earbud market.

Are they the best? Obviously tastes vary and I don't know.

Thanks for clearing stuff up!
 
bjet767 said:
Abdul...

That was the original post I commented on and from which my comment you seemed to agree with.

I like real exchange and these Mac rumors threads are filled with haters and people who seem to just proclaim something and therefore it is true. Well it's not as we now seem to agree, the new Apple Pods are probably going to be a very popular product and actuality, in my opinion, will bust open the consumer high end Bluetooth earbud market.

Are they the best? Obviously tastes vary and I don't know.

Thanks for clearing stuff up!
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When the AirPods were unveiled I thought.... ooooooh, proper IEMs (as they looked like custom IEMs in the box) then they came out the case slowly and had the long stems. I was actually disappointed they didn't design something new, but I guess why change something if they work and guess the stems increase Bluetooth connectivity.
 
I actually think they look pretty cool but the volume adjustment only by using Siri isn't my cup of tea - don't want to look like a dork in the gym adjusting with my voice
 
xDKP said:
I actually think they look pretty cool but the volume adjustment only by using Siri isn't my cup of tea - don't want to look like a dork in the gym adjusting with my voice
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Tea?

There is no tea in working out.

Crank the volume up and never look back.

I also have my timers chiming in over the music periodically.

Also glancing at the AW for my status.

There's a lot going on in the gym.

Using the Airpods will enhance my performance.

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rockyromero said:
Tea?

There is no tea in working out.

Crank the volume up and never look back.

I also have my timers chiming in over the music periodically.

Also glancing at the AW for my status.

There's a lot going on in the gym.

Using the Airpods will enhance my performance.

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I'm sure you'll be able to use your Apple Watch to adjust the sound and tracks as well so no need for Siri in that case
 
Bickering about headphone sound quality when you're playing compressed digital files is the silliest part of this thread.


To the core of the question: would easy-to-pair wireless headphones get me to enjoy using my AW more?

Maybe, yeah. I continued carrying an iPod Shuffle when I was walking to and from classes earlier this year because it's super-simple and I could just clip it to my backpack strap. If I had gotten wireless headphones to go with my AW (or my phone), I could have ditched the wires to the Shuffle.

But then again, I don't listen to music that often (mostly just podcasts, but anyway), and I prefer letting a dedicated device handle music. I don't need to wonder how much the iPod's battery is draining because a dead iPod is no big deal. A drained phone or AW, though, sucks.
 
I stand by my comment that the earpods are junk (audio-wise), but admire Apple for their design and implementation of the airpods - hopefully this will spur on other manufacturerers.
 
rockyromero said:
Tea?

There is no tea in working out.

Crank the volume up and never look back.

I also have my timers chiming in over the music periodically.

Also glancing at the AW for my status.

There's a lot going on in the gym.

Using the Airpods will enhance my performance.

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Okay
rockyromero said:
Tea?

There is no tea in working out.

Crank the volume up and never look back.

I also have my timers chiming in over the music periodically.

Also glancing at the AW for my status.

There's a lot going on in the gym.

Using the Airpods will enhance my performance.

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You're right - to hell with tea (I'm more an espresso guy anyway)...

Might jump on these sometime during the next year. For workout etc. I've always liked my Earpod sound, but hated the cord, so have cheap (but quite okay) BT-ear phones at the moment. Would love the seamless Apple integration
 
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