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Wouldnt it make more sense for them to make the screen wider as well?
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Ha you'll see in October.
Also, Incredible 4G launched today with a 4 inch 16:9 screen. It can be done for iPhone. And it will.
Everyone said the same thing last year and posted tons of leaks to try and support it but what happened? Yep, same old 3.5 inch display. Nothing will change. This is the last iPhone Steve Jobs personally worked on and we all know he thought 3.5 inches was the perfect size for a phone. It's not going to be any bigger, sorry.
There's a lot of truth here. Steve Jobs was die hard in that 3.5" was the perfect screen size. It's also been confirmed by many that the iPhone 5 was a project he was heavily involved in. I expect some big design changes but I'm not completely sold on the larger screen. If they do it and just make it longer I'm going to be hot. Neither the iPhone or iPad is 16:9, now is not the time to start. 16:9 in a tablet makes some sense, in a phone it's idiotic.
Not to mention its been heavily rumored the iPad mini (7.85 inch) is launching along with the new iPhone. Pretty much Apple's way of giving people a larger sized iPhone but smaller iPad.
I think there could be some benefit
I believe that increasing the screen size to 4 inches diagonally could help with simple tasks like texting(bigger letters etc.), but any larger would be overwhelming.
I believe that increasing the screen size to 4 inches diagonally could help with simple tasks like texting(bigger letters etc.), but any larger would be overwhelming.
Ha you'll see in October.
Also, Incredible 4G launched today with a 4 inch 16:9 screen. It can be done for iPhone. And it will.
The Focus 2 also uses a 4" 800x600 display. Still pocketable, and easy to manipulate and not much larger than the iPhone.
Though, it's going to be tough to do HD on a 4" screen without everything being incredibly tiny, irrespective of the aspect ratio. 1136x640 is too incremental to endure a two year cycle.
Again the incredible 4G released today with 16:9. It works fine for phones. And the iPad 4:3 allows it to have a great balanced look for portrait and landscape.
Of course it works, I just think it's less than optimal. The whole point of 16:9/10 is for video. Yes I watch video on my phone but it's far from the main use. For everything else the squarer form factor works better.
I have to agree. I had an Asus Transfomrer for a bit. It was a turd, but the aspect ratio was especially annoying because it was great for video and not much else.
The iPads 4:3 aspect ratio is more comfortable and useful in a broader variety of uses. So the idea of a 16:9 iPhone is not especially appealing.
As most have deduced, just going taller would give a smaller viewing area compared to a 3:2 or 4:3 aspect ratio with a 4" display.
Mad Mac Maniac
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Apple made up "retina" because it could be used in any situation.
The new iPad is "only" 264 PPI and is "retina", for example, when you hold it further away than you do an iPhone.
285 PPI is also "retina" at the right distance(*)
(*) 12.5"
You are right, but I believe when Apple announced the iPhone retina screen they said that based on the average viewing distance of the iPhone the minimum ppi to be "retina" was 300. I suppose hypothetically Apple could backtrack and say "well... since the 4" screen is larger than the 3.5" screen, people will hold is slightly farther back." But that would be kinda sketch.
What does that have to do with anything. The iPad and iPhone have never been the same aspect ratio. In fact the iPad is actually more square than the iPhone is already.
You've certainly heard the phrase "print quality" which is 300 DPI. What you didn't realize was that it required being exactly one foot away.
"Retina" is EXACTLY the same thing.
It's simply based on the ability of the human eye to discern one line/dot from another. Or more specifically, how much of an angle must the change subtend for the eye to notice? For normal eyesight, it works out to be the PPI at a certain distance that subtends 1/60th of a degree. Any of the following fits that equation:
325PPI at 11" (iPhone 4S)
300PPI at 12"
264PPI at 13.5" (new iPad)
200PPI at 18"
132PPI at 27" (original iPad)
And so forth.
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Mad Mac Maniac
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isn't that basically exactly what I said?
Just not in as much detail. With the iPhone 4 announcement Apple proclaimed that based on average viewing distance (I'll assume that to be 12" deduced from your post) PPI must be >= 300 to be "retina". The new iPad and rMBP are able to claim "retina" at a lower PPI because Apple established larger viewing distances. I don't necessarily expect Apple to change the declared "optimal viewing distance" for the iPhone 5, so a reduction to 285 PPI would, by their own defined standards, no longer be retina.I guess I'm in the minority in this forum - I care less about the screen size, but I care more about the screen resolution. I really, really would like the next iPhone to have a resolution of 1280x720, to match the Samsung Galaxy S III, the HTC One X, the Sony Xperia S, etc., etc. I have an iPhone 4S, and one of my main uses is watching 16:9 video (mainly Korean dramas), and I've come to dislike the black bars.
The screen resolution change will probably not happen, so when the next iPhone is released, I'll have a decision to make. Get the newer iPhone anyway, keep the iPhone 4S, or get one of the Android phones I listed above (but not the Galaxy S III, because it has a pentile screen, and I do not like pentile screens).
The screen resolution change will probably not happen, so when the next iPhone is released, I'll have a decision to make. Get the newer iPhone anyway, keep the iPhone 4S, or get one of the Android phones I listed above (but not the Galaxy S III, because it has a pentile screen, and I do not like pentile screens).
I want a bigger iPhone all around. Let the mother %^&$# look like a tee so it fits in all the old docking stations. I dont care. I just want an all around larger phone and dont want to wait for two years to get one ( which we all know will eventually happen). I also dont want to be milked.
BTW Big companies dont give a $&%T about anyones previously owned docking stations, power adapters etc. Remember when Apple didnt allow Original iPhone car chargers to charge the iPhone 2? Yea...... They care.
BTW Big companies dont give a $&%T about anyones previously owned docking stations, power adapters etc. Remember when Apple didnt allow Original iPhone car chargers to charge the iPhone 2? Yea...... They care.
I love bigger screen! I wear glasses and a bigger one is definitely much more helpful... But if we're talking about the iPhone being longer or wider, no, i'd give a thumbs down to that.
Apple made up "retina" because it could be used in any situation.
The new iPad is "only" 264 PPI and is "retina", for example, when you hold it further away than you do an iPhone.
285 PPI is also "retina" at the right distance(*)
(*) 12.5"
Come again? Apple didn't make up retina display. It's just their way of sayin super amoled plus . Im just sayin'