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Nonsense. Iphone browsing is more silky smooth, but I prefer browsing on Android for a) 4G speed, b) 4.3" screen, c) flash

Depends on your needs I guess. I do miss Flash, and the big screen. The bad scrolling was too much for me though :/
 
Nonsense. Iphone browsing is more silky smooth, but I prefer browsing on Android for a) 4G speed, b) 4.3" screen, c) flash

browsing on galaxy sii is silky smooth. Even while playing a 1080p flash video clip, you can zoom in and out without any stuttering
 
browsing on galaxy sii is silky smooth. Even while playing a 1080p flash video clip, you can zoom in and out without any stuttering

the silky smooth that people are referring to on the iphone is a little feature that pauses the loading. Whenever you touch the iphone screen while it is loading website (or the ipad screen) it will pause all loading in order to make the zooming or scrolling perfectly smooth. No one seems to mind that this pauses the loading so several other phones have added this (iphone wasnt the first) but the galaxy s 2 is one of the phones with this feature.
 
I'm pretty sure it'll be between the Galaxy SII and the iPhone 5 for my next upgrade...LTE could be the deciding factor if it's included and doesn't murder battery life as much as the Thunderbolt. But of course I'm waiting on what iOS 5 will bring, and am curious whether Apple can provide some more incentive to owning both the iPhone and iPad.

And I personally hate that the iPad doesn't have Flash.
 
I think you may have actually stumbled onto something here. There's no rational reason to keep Flash off iOS devices if it can be OFF by default. Of course Apple is all about choice... Apple's choice.

Evidently, you are ready to vilify Apple for protecting its business interest but you will happily look the other way if anybody else is aiming to do just that.

Adobe, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are among the members that sit on the World Wide Web Committee (W3C) which is stewarding the development of HTML5. Adobe has been stalling the committee's work on HTML5. Why could this be? Adobe sees the potential for HTML5 to compete with Flash. That's why Adobe has been stalling it. While I don't deny that part of the reason for banning Flash may be to protect App Store revenues, I realize that that's a part of business. I am amazed that there isn't a murmur about Adobe's obvious "greed" yet people are up in arms over Apple supposedly wanting to protect its business.

Also, let's say Apple had allowed Flash from the beginning. With the Web so entrenched in Flash, Apple would have been at Adobe's mercy to invest in Flash for iOS to maintain a good Web experience for iOS users. Apple would have had no alternative whatsoever. It happened in the past. Adobe refused to invest the time that Apple wanted them to invest in developing Photoshop and other creativity tools. Adobe wanted to simply port it over because, according to the rumors, they felt that it wouldn't be worth their time to develop for a platform that they expected would be dead soon. In light of this, is it wrong for Steve Jobs to want to protect his company by making sure that there is a way out?
 
I only have an original Droid and I quite like the option, I like to stream sports when I can, as well as episodes on places like South Park's site.

I have it on demand, so basically it's off until I click it active (much like flash block), so it's a non factor until I need it to be.

Phones are getting more and more powerful. We're shipping with a gig of ram and dual core phones. They are plenty powerful for Flash. New chipsets and graphics will be flash accelerated.

It's not something you use all the time, but it does make browsing a more complete experience over the iPhone in my books.
 
Anyone who says Apple's reason for blocking Flash is to protect their revenue from Apps, seems to find it quite easy to ignore that Apple are the biggest promoter of web apps out of everyone. They allow direct saving of HTML5 pages as 'Apps' in iOS, they have tools for HTML5 development, heck they even have a web app store: http://www.apple.com/webapps/

Apple don't care about the meager millions they get from their App Store, they care about the billions they get from selling the iDevices that run the apps. Therefore it makes no sense that Steve Jobs would worry about Flash damaging their App Store revenue, but it makes a lot of sense to worry about Flash damaging the user experience on their devices—a valid concern given that Apple's selling point is that very thing.
 
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