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It would be nice if Apple could at least fix the alignement of maps and satellite images. The hybrid mode is totally unusable and I'm not really sure wich one the POIs use for location.

How about switching hybrid off? Then you know
 
How about switching hybrid off? Then you know

Yeah, but every POI has a wrong location in the maps around here and if you try to correct them, you must give the real location using the satellite images and those are not aligned with the maps.
 
But still it would be opt-in, so what's the problem? You can't use Google Latitude without logging in to your Google Account and opting-in.

That's how it works in the current app, because Google needs a way to track who you are. If you want the Google clone of the "Find My Friends" app, you seek it out, download it, and configure it.

Instead, Google wanted their Latitude location tracking to be a core feature of iOS. How does that even make sense? Google is Apple's competitor. Why would Apple give a competitor that level of access to information about their users' 24/7 location data?

This sentence doesn't make any sense.
Require location tracking for Maps (Latitude) to be turned on in iOS settings in order to make Google's other apps function correctly. Prompt users to turn it on in the event it gets switched off. Simple.
 
I have found the maps app, a disaster in Australia, the other night after being attacked on the street, looked for the nearest Police Station via Apple Maps, the location it showed me, was incorrect, and also asking siri, this location was wrong, I do hope that Apple improve the Maps application very soon, so these critical and emergency situations don't reoccur

Call 911.

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Keep calm and live your life.

We all know eventually it will get better and it will be fixed.
 
I had a look at how Yelp and Apple compare. Looks like Apple use a static copy of Yelp's data, and that there are errors in the positioning caused by Apple and not Yelp.

Wrote it up here if anyone is interested.
 
I don't see how this is relevant. Your suggestion is still that Google would willingly track people's location by tricking users AND Apple.
It's the sort of thing that could be as simple as breaking Gmail or Maps on iOS unless Latitude was enabled, then prompting users to enable it. That's the kind of control that's given up when a competitor is put in charge of a key system feature or function.

That's very serious suggestion, so I'm treating it as such.
You're "treating it as such"? LOL! What does that even mean? ROTFL! :p

That would result in far more than a small fine.
The FTC is toothless. Google's $22.5 million fine for the Safari 3rd party cookie fiasco was a drop in the bucket. Do you really believe that will prevent them from misrepresenting the "extent to which consumers can exercise control over the collection of their information" in the future?
 
It's the sort of thing that could be as simple as breaking Gmail or Maps on iOS unless Latitude was enabled, then prompting users to enable it. That's the kind of control that's given up when a competitor is put in charge of a key system feature or function.

Why would Apple allow them to do that?

You only seem to be able to see this from extreme perspectives - either that Apple would be complicit in allowing Google to illegally track all of their users OR (as has happened) that they had to drop Google Maps. You can't consider the possibility that Apple could have allowed Google Latitude under the same terms it uses now - i.e. you MUST opt-in and you have granular control over who sees the data.

You're "treating it as such"? LOL! What does that even mean? ROTFL! :p

It means that what you're suggesting is a serious conspiracy theory. That Google would manipulate Apple into allowing wholesale (illegal?) tracking of its users.

The FTC is toothless. Google's $22.5 million fine for the Safari 3rd party cookie fiasco was a drop in the bucket. Do you really believe that will prevent them from misrepresenting the "extent to which consumers can exercise control over the collection of their information" in the future?

My understanding of the cookie situation is that it was not illegal to do that in principle, but Google had a prior arrangement with the FTC to not engage in that particular type of activity.

If that's the worst thing that Google has ever done, we really don't have much to worry about.
 
You just can't seem to find any scenario where you would agree that Apple has the right to be prudent when it comes to Google and user privacy.

No, I have to agree with you there, I can't seem to find any scenario where I would agree that Apple has a need to be prudent when it comes to Google and user privacy. And frankly, I don't think Apple really gives a damn about Google and user privacy since they collect the same metrics through their own analytic services for their iAd program and other targeted advertising and placement schemes.

Maybe it's because I don't seem to have a grudge against Google... or something.

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Oh, come on, don't play dense.

Golden coming from you.

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Require location tracking for Maps (Latitude) to be turned on in iOS settings in order to make Google's other apps function correctly. Prompt users to turn it on in the event it gets switched off. Simple.

They don't need Latitude for that. Heck, just with location based services and the old maps they could have done that, IF Apple just carelessly uploaded them the positional data in the first place.

Latitude has nothing to do with downloading tiles/vectors and your geolocation on the map itself. It requires the extra step of syncing your location back to Google for tracking (like Find My Friends does).

Now, are you saying Apple would've implemented Latitude stealthily ? That they wouldn't have made it opt-in ? That would have been pretty low on Apple's part.
 
We all know eventually it will get better and it will be fixed.

The problem stems from the fact that it was better in August, got much worse in September and now will only get better and be fixed at some undisclosed future date which no one, not even Apple, can point to with any kind of accuracy right now.
 
Yeah, but every POI has a wrong location in the maps around here and if you try to correct them, you must give the real location using the satellite images and those are not aligned with the maps.

No, but I have checked, there is an obvious fixed offset, which can be taken into consideration easily.

The following quote is not necessarily pointed at you, but at people still complaining about stuff when there are obvious (mostly great, sometimes slightly less convenient) alternatives:

'Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.' - Stephen Hawking
 
The following quote is not necessarily pointed at you, but at people still complaining about stuff when there are obvious (mostly great, sometimes slightly less convenient) alternatives:

'Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.' - Stephen Hawking

By all means, please tell me what alternative I have (ANY) for location based reminders.
 
By all means, please tell me what alternative I have (ANY) for location based reminders.

Dunno, maybe you are one who is really ********d due to the fact the POIs in your area seem to be totally borked. I never used the reminders, do you need a POI to set it? Can't you set it by global position? I know it is inconvenient - and if you did your best, that quote is not directed at you anyway.

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I wonder what he would have said about the ability to adapt to broken.

The adaption to something being broken differs from person to person:
- I will try to repair it (you can at least help)
- I will try to find an alternative (there are many, even if not for everyone)
- I will buy a new one (go buy Android, last resort)
- I am totally out of luck, all I can do is moan: "It's broken! It's broken! It's broken!"
 
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Dunno, maybe you are one who is really ********d due to the fact the POIs in your area seem to be totally borked. I never used the reminders, do you need a POI to set it? Can't you set it by global position? I know it is inconvenient and if you did your best, that quote is not directed at you.

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The adaption to something being broken differs from person to person:
- I will try to repair it (you can at least help)
- I will try to find an alternative (there are many, even if not for everyone)
- I will buy a new one (go buy Android, last resort)
- I am totally out of luck, all I can do is moan: "It's broken! It's broken! It's broken!"

Location reminders are based off addresses...so, unless I'm to go hiking in the woods, my Phone never thinks I'm home now.

Even ignoring the complete lack of POI near me, there are a few hundred wrong addresses that need fixing. I don't have the time (or desire) to fix each of them...not that it matters since they haven't fixed the few I have submitted yet.

While there are alternatives to some of my issues, many of them will never be fixed.

I already gave Apple my money and don't see why I should be forced to go elsewhere because they decided to cripple my phone and not offer a solution... even if it was the option to upgrade to 5.1.
 
Paris:
Apple:...............................Google:


The most annoying thing... You can't get Google maps to be blurry on any zoom level.
 
So today i was using Google Navigation on an HTC One X and I have to say, wow, it is amazing. It is even better than most paid/premium navigation apps. I really have to say Google really have done a great job with maps for android. But sadly their iOS app was never up to the same mark, say what you will about iOS maps, i hope it brings all those missing feature to iOS, but they clearly have loads of room for improvement
 
So today i was using Google Navigation on an HTC One X and I have to say, wow, it is amazing. It is even better than most paid/premium navigation apps. I really have to say Google really have done a great job with maps for android. But sadly their iOS app was never up to the same mark, say what you will about iOS maps, i hope it brings all those missing feature to iOS, but they clearly have loads of room for improvement

At least now we can hope for that. Or the rest of the world can hope, as the navigation works perfectly for me. Haven't checked the Android one, but like you said, Apple Maps too is up to par with the best paid navigation apps (when the map data is correct...yadda yadda yadda).

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Paris:
Apple:...............................Google:
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The most annoying thing... You can't get Google maps to be blurry on any zoom level.

I start checking back all the bad examples here to get my own results. Apple maps is in Paris rather too sharp when you zoom in. Then when you zoom out there is a level where it puts a smooting on the image. At that exact level it looks a little blurry, zooming out further the smoothing ist most welcome.

Maybe Google works a little better at that special zoom level ... but this topic is about Apple Maps being a disaster and this is nitpicking at the highest possible level. To call stuff like that annoying one must be nitpickiest of nitpickers in the world.

If I wanted to nitpick I could post my example where the google maps are totally overexposed in Zagreb with hard shadows, while Apple maps are taken at the right time with the right exposure.
 
So if I download the App and sign in with my Google Account, then tell it to track me, that's opting in, but if I use an App that's part of the OS and sign in with my Google Account, and click the "Track Me" button that's NOT opting in?

What's the difference?

it's there as part of the app store, that's enough, why should apple waste time integrating latitude, that isn't even that sucessful, into iOS when they can be doing something more productive and useful... Facebook and Twitter are the exceptions as they are significantly more popular and widespread....
 
I start checking back all the bad examples here to get my own results. Apple maps is in Paris rather too sharp when you zoom in. Then when you zoom out there is a level where it puts a smooting on the image. At that exact level it looks a little blurry, zooming out further the smoothing ist most welcome.

Maybe Google works a little better at that special zoom level ... but this topic is about Apple Maps being a disaster and this is nitpicking at the highest possible level. To call stuff like that annoying one must be nitpickiest of nitpickers in the world.

If I wanted to nitpick I could post my example where the google maps are totally overexposed in Zagreb with hard shadows, while Apple maps are taken at the right time with the right exposure.

This is not nitpicking...
The maps are sharp on the max zoom level, but as you start zooming out they are hideously blurry. Why do they "smooth" or blur the image? I really don't get it. Maps should be sharp. I want to see where the streets are and how the city looks from distance. All I see on Apple maps is a big blob of grey hues.

I agree that Google maps are overexposed in Zagreb, but they are really detailed at every zoom level.
 
This is not nitpicking...
The maps are sharp on the max zoom level, but as you start zooming out they are hideously blurry. Why do they "smooth" or blur the image? I really don't get it. Maps should be sharp. I want to see where the streets are and how the city looks from distance. All I see on Apple maps is a big blob of grey hues.

I agree that Google maps are overexposed in Zagreb, but they are really detailed at every zoom level.

It IS nitpicking. Apple maps does not blur without reason, as long as you are in an area where the high detailed images have been load, it is crisp. Once you zoom out more it gets softened probably because Apple doesn't want to load all the detailed data for a huge area. Different approaches and even if the Apple algorithm might be slightly inferior, it is nitpicking.
 
It IS nitpicking. Apple maps does not blur without reason, as long as you are in an area where the high detailed images have been load, it is crisp. Once you zoom out more it gets softened probably because Apple doesn't want to load all the detailed data for a huge area. Different approaches and even if the Apple algorithm might be slightly inferior, it is nitpicking.

It is NOT nitpicking. :D
Why don't they load detailed data for a huge area? Maps should be crisp on any zoom level. They have that data and even when it's loaded, when you unzoom they blur it.
 
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