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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.

MozMan68 said:
Why does anyone assume that no matter how many billions of dollars they could have spent partnering with every non-Google map maker in the world that their maps would still not be criticized (rightfully so) for not having POI info that was as accurate or as numerous as what Google has?

They started at a lower level than they should have and COULD have...but that doesn't mean you should always expect a maps experience less than what is currently offered by Google or what WILL be offered by both companies in the future.
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Please... for the love of god... get this into Your head: it's not just the POI's, it's also the basic maps that are wrong.
 
bmwhd said:
Umm...might want to read the first line of your own post in reverse.
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You are free to disagree - do You mean Apple had the best intentions for their users when they switched the Maps app then?

bmwhd said:
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, I just don't share it. IMHO Google maps on iOS was never any great shakes. With Google being unwilling to sell the data required for T-B-T directions, it was always an also-ran app to me compared to Navigon or a real GPS.
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Google wanted something for something - no surprise that Apple didn't want to let go of that control. I understand the reasoning, but I'm tired of the one sided argument. Making the decision Apple did meant that users would suffer, so it's either that they knew this was a turd and didn't care or they found out on release. I believe in scenario 1.

bmwhd said:
Apple maps app has some room to grow, no doubt but it's hardly a disaster. The GUI is very nice and T-B-T has worked spot on for me every time I've used it in the US and the UK.
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The GUI is more design than function - it annoys me. It's inconsistent when (and where) information is presented through zoom layers. There's no apparent "rule" on POI placement (front door or middle of the building). The fact that it will give you a tan if you use it at night. There is no way to separate major roads from minor roads (something that could get you in trouble in most of Europe). Transit information... sorry to say: people use it more than T-B-T. It's very badly translated.

I agree with You on TBT (just not on an iPhone4), so if the maps were precise here, it would be great.
 
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steve-p said:
I don't see any improvement whatsoever in Thatcham town centre which still has only a handful of POIs, all of which are either closed, have an out of date name, or are in the wrong place entirely, i.e. completely useless.
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I was really talking about POIs for Newbury and reading. Thatcham 'town' centre isn't really worth it as all it has is 2 supermarkets, couple newsagents a pharmacy and couple takeaways....any other shop there seems to barely last 6 months.

The other thing about POI's is the weird connection with yelp... Yelp shows tons more in the yelp app than in apple maps... Why so when yelp is a partner??
 
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shandyman said:
The other thing about POI's is the weird connection with yelp... Yelp shows tons more in the yelp app than in apple maps... Why so when yelp is a partner??
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Agree... This whole Yelp thing is really weird - it looks like only a selection of data coming from Yelp. Even though Yelp aren't that "big" in my town, they do have more POI's than Apple Maps, and correctly placed in Google Maps I'd might add. And the funny thing is that some of the POI's are in different Yelp categories... each day I become more and more convinced that Apple Maps will be re-written soon.
 
dv8r said:
Please... for the love of god... get this into Your head: it's not just the POI's, it's also the basic maps that are wrong.
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I get it...they're bad for you and a lot of other people, but they have been flawless for me in multiple cities and turn by turn is awesome.

Poi's seem to be the bigger issue for daily use by a larger group of people.

You making th statement that the "basic maps are wrong" is so far off base as the outcry of their dismal state would go way beyond some Internet forum. Considering the incrediy number of phones sold and the high profile of Apple, it would be a constant news story.
 
MozMan68 said:
I get it...they're bad for you and a lot of other people, but they have been flawless for me in multiple cities and turn by turn is awesome.
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No, You don't get it - Your posts clearly show that You don't accept the premise that Apple Maps is broken, based solely on Your own experiences. That's not "getting it".

MozMan68 said:
You making th statement that the "basic maps are wrong" is so far off base as the outcry of their dismal state would go way beyond some Internet forum.
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Seriously? Again? You have been shown several examples, supporting the argument, that the basic maps are wrong and yet You still manages to say they aren't... based on media coverage... You have got to be trolling this time 'round...

MozMan68 said:
Considering the incrediy number of phones sold and the high profile of Apple, it would be a constant news story.
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Yeah, in case You didn't notice... there's a Presidential election, a couple of financial "hiccups", some wars and the ghost of Lindsay Lohan roaming the airwaves right now - I think a software firm, being really bad at doing software, is not getting too much traction...
 
MozMan68 said:
You making th statement that the "basic maps are wrong" is so far off base as the outcry of their dismal state would go way beyond some Internet forum. Considering the incrediy number of phones sold and the high profile of Apple, it would be a constant news story.
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Factually wrong. Two sizeable articles in The Guardian newspaper just this Monday:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/05/google-maps-doubt-iphone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/05/apple-google-maps-iphone-dropped?intcmp=239
 
Whoa. One of the corrections I submitted was actually acted on and Maps has been revised accordingly .... :eek:

EDIT: I take it back - the map seems to have been reverted to its old state. :(
 
VulchR said:
EDIT: I take it back - the map seems to have been reverted to its old state. :(
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LoL this seem to be cache trouble (maybe both on the client and server side) or some strange bug. The few corrections made on my suggestions (or just coincidentally) went back and forth for weeks (like pharmacy with hairdresser icon or different names for a POI depending on how far you are zoomed in).

firestarter said:
Factually wrong. Two sizeable articles in The Guardian newspaper just this Monday:
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I don't think those two articles are that much centered around the supposed abysimal state of the new maps.

And even with 150 pages the number of complaints (mostly from british members) seem to slow down while more and more positive reports come in. It becomes harder to find problems, which could not easily be fixed by using one of the recommended 3rd party apps (including Google Webapp with Streetview).

People start accepting Apple Maps is not meant to be the swiss army tool the old maps were but rather a TBT solution. Some feel this is bad, for my purposes it works perfectly.
 
dv8r said:
The GUI is more design than function - it annoys me. It's inconsistent when (and where) information is presented through zoom layers.
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Totally agree. I still have yet to understand why small towns like Hamilton, ON (population less than 1,000 -- between Toronto and Kingston) shows up even when the map is zoomed out. Meanwhile, the much larger city of Hamilton, ON (between Toronto and Niagara Falls) doesn't show up when the map is zoomed out. That's probably an easy database fix and it has yet to be resolved.
 
Apple Maps seems to have misplaced a major Accident & Emergency hospital by 5 miles. The Royal Victoria Infirmary is in central Newcastle on Tyne, UK, NE1 4LP. My iPad Mini shows it at Consett Road near Watergate Bank, 5 miles south. Yes, I tried to report an error, but it hung up. Please could other forum users confirm this error, and maybe Apple will do something before this app becomes seriously unfunny.
 
Jock said:
Apple Maps seems to have misplaced a major Accident & Emergency hospital by 5 miles. The Royal Victoria Infirmary is in central Newcastle on Tyne, UK, NE1 4LP. My iPad Mini shows it at Consett Road near Watergate Bank, 5 miles south. Yes, I tried to report an error, but it hung up. Please could other forum users confirm this error, and maybe Apple will do something before this app becomes seriously unfunny.
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From my iPhone.
 

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Jock said:
Apple Maps seems to have misplaced a major Accident & Emergency hospital by 5 miles. The Royal Victoria Infirmary is in central Newcastle on Tyne, UK, NE1 4LP. My iPad Mini shows it at Consett Road near Watergate Bank, 5 miles south. Yes, I tried to report an error, but it hung up. Please could other forum users confirm this error, and maybe Apple will do something before this app becomes seriously unfunny.
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From my iPhone...

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Is this the correct place? (Map app iOS 5)
 
Well, I guess if we get 6 people together, we'll eventually find the hospital???

Trouble is, how do you trust Apple Maps?
 
iOS Map data is provided by TomTom. On the TomTom app and GPS the map data is correct, yet on iOS maps it is wrong.

Is TomTom providing Apple with outdated data :confused:
 
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