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My location according to Apple maps vs google maps :/ It can't find any restaurants or hospitals... Nothing.
 

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From reading the threads it looks like Yelp is relatively unknown outside the US. A little naive of Apple to link to it worldwide, if there are no relevant reviews on the site for those elsewhere. Great for Yelp - I expect they'll see a HUGE increase in users who want to contribute reviews. Not so great, at least right now, for iOS users.
 
I'm not trying to defend Apple here, but lets just look at some comparisons.

Google maps
Beta: Feb 2005
Final release: 6 Oct 2005
Time since official release: 7 years (minus 2 weeks)

Bing maps
V1: July 2005 (I didn't even realize they started this long ago, it was under a different name. Still Microsofts maps)
V7 (rebranded as Bing Maps): June 2009
Time since offical release: 7 years, 3 months (and 3 years, 4 months as "Bing Maps")

Apple Maps
Beta: June 20012
Official release: 19 Sept 2012
Time since official release: 2 days

I'm not saying that makes up for replacing a good solution with a crappy one, but seriously... 7 years vs 2 days.... cut them some slack.

No. They entered a mature phone market and dominated it. They entered a mature music player market and dominated it. That's how they do things, not like this. I seriously doubt Apple cares enough about maps to make this even close to as good as Google and I think their employees are demoralized and didn't put their best effort into this product.
 
By which point the whole world will have changed again :p

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These errors are prolific!!

At least those places exist! In my town, Worthing, half the POIs are non-existant or outdated. Even things that appear on Yelp do not yet appear in Maps either as POIs or from searches. It's really aggravating.
 
At least those places exist! In my town, Worthing, half the POIs are non-existant or outdated. Even things that appear on Yelp do not yet appear in Maps either as POIs or from searches. It's really aggravating.

Same here. :(

I've noticed some POIs that are like a quarter a mile away from where they should be.
 
No. They entered a mature phone market and dominated it. They entered a mature music player market and dominated it. That's how they do things, not like this. I seriously doubt Apple cares enough about maps to make this even close to as good as Google and I think their employees are demoralized and didn't put their best effort into this product.

exactly and google maps didnt "need" 7 years to make it like it is today its just evalved too this with the changes in technology and the equipment available to google

apple should of stayed friends with google instead of thinking they can just replace them
 
This shows a major problem with the routing:

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This would take someone miles PAST the destination. Not just the wrong way like others I've seen, but actually past it. :(
 
No. They entered a mature phone market and dominated it. They entered a mature music player market and dominated it. That's how they do things, not like this. I seriously doubt Apple cares enough about maps to make this even close to as good as Google and I think their employees are demoralized and didn't put their best effort into this product.

I really don't think you can compare those things. The iPhone dominated, because it was able to provide a magic formula that had never been done before. It's just like mixing all the right ingrediants to a delicious meal.

A mapping service requires billions upon billions of data points that must be acquired. It's quite an undertaking. And it's an undertaking that will go MUCH faster now that it's released in the wild. It's not something Apple can work on in secret very well.

Apple is trying to "rip off the bandaid" so to speak. It sucks, sure. but I think they'll move quickly. In one years time I'm guessing it will be a great product. Maybe still not have all the locations/accuracy of google, but it'll be a worthy competitor.
 
Yes, as do a million standalone GPS apps and devices these days. However the quality and reliability of the traffic data is always hit or miss. Apple apparently has a traffic feature as well, of no use to me here in the boonies however.
Exactly. Traffic rerouting works great in a large city with predictable traffic or long jams. In a smaller city (even of 500,000) it's useless as jams start and stop too quickly for the rerouting to kick in.
 
A mapping service requires billions upon billions of data points that must be acquired.

The thing is, this work has been done, and it's for sale by other providers. Apple just didn't buy the right data it seems. Maps themselves, geolocation coordinates for cities, searching algorithms to find routes, all those things that aren't working now are things that should have worked right off the bat.

It's not just the POIs that are missing that Apple will need to acquire (and again, they are things they could have acquired from other players that gathered it and are now selling it).

It really seems Apple rushed/botched this.
 
The thing that makes me laugh is how some people try and defend Apple in this instance, it's one thing that has started to frustrate me more and more about apple is their absolute insistence that they know best...!

They took a service that worked amazingly well for 99.9 % of people and try and force people to change to their version that frankly should not have even been released let alone touted as a major upgrade for ios6

For those who are trying to say that google maps took 7 years etc, give apple time.......get real!! We are in 2012, the Internet and technology is way ahead of what was around even 2 years ago and if Apple are going to enforce a change then that should release a complete and fully working service rather than an incomplete beta (again)

I was in central London today and wanted to find the nearest HMV, my friends apple maps couldn't do this but my google maps did it in seconds....not good at all for Apple it didn't even know where we were!!

If apple genuinely believed that their version was better then they should let us choose by NOT removing google maps and letting us decide.....I really really hope they don't reject a google maps app (but knowing apple lately they will)
 
This shows a major problem with the routing:

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This would take someone miles PAST the destination. Not just the wrong way like others I've seen, but actually past it. :(
Strange. I was using the beta for months and it never did that. It always nailed the routes available, sometimes having more options than the almighty Google Maps.
 
Strange. I was using the beta for months and it never did that. It always nailed the routes available, sometimes having more options than the almighty Google Maps.

All the routes I've tried look good too, just showing ones off that iOS 6 Tumblr site.

The thing is, when there's this many problems I don't trust the app one iota.
 
Man those gifs are pretty bad. I haven't had the reason to use my map services in awhile. Hopefully by the next time I do it will be out of beta so I don't have to deal with a crappy map.
 
No. They entered a mature phone market and dominated it. They entered a mature music player market and dominated it. That's how they do things, not like this. I seriously doubt Apple cares enough about maps to make this even close to as good as Google and I think their employees are demoralized and didn't put their best effort into this product.
They should've just paid google to use their POI database and be done with it. As a customer I don't care if they'll lose face by doing so. I want accurate and plentiful POI's!
 
I don't understand why, if they hate Google so much, they could just suck it up and partner with Microsoft... Even Bing maps is better than their in-house garbage.
 
I'm not trying to defend Apple here, but lets just look at some comparisons.

Google maps
Beta: Feb 2005
Final release: 6 Oct 2005
Time since official release: 7 years (minus 2 weeks)

Bing maps
V1: July 2005 (I didn't even realize they started this long ago, it was under a different name. Still Microsofts maps)
V7 (rebranded as Bing Maps): June 2009
Time since offical release: 7 years, 3 months (and 3 years, 4 months as "Bing Maps")

Apple Maps
Beta: June 20012
Official release: 19 Sept 2012
Time since official release: 2 days

I'm not saying that makes up for replacing a good solution with a crappy one, but seriously... 7 years vs 2 days.... cut them some slack.

All that proves, to my mind anyway, is that Apple have released a product which is clearly still at beta stage as the final offering.

They have done this to the detriment of many customers & app creators purely because of their perceived competition with Google.

When you start making decisions based upon your obsession with what the competition may (or may not) do, whilst ignoring the needs of your customers and business partners, it's a slippery slope.

Apple should have ensured this product was market ready before deciding to replace all of the integrations in iOS 6. They've tried to rush a key application to market & it's backfiring.
 
Looking at Lincoln UK.. there's about five McDonalds here. I do a search for McDonalds and it shows me ones in a completely different county.

If I type "McDonalds Lincoln" it shows me McDonalds in Lincoln, Nebraska, different continent!

Terrible, just terrible.
 
Why is this so hard for people to understand???

Some of us can't wait two years for this damn app to get better. This is the SECOND most used app on the iPhone.

If MS or Google did this crap this message board would be all over them...

You agreed to the iOS EULA allowing Apple to replace whatever they want on your phone whenever, so...:rolleyes:

People got to where they needed to go just fine before smartphones and mobile "map apps" existed...roadmaps, various map sites, etc, etc. You can wait.
 
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