lol google maps is not designed to be a car sat nav. Thats why they have google navigation on android.
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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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lol google maps is not designed to be a car sat nav. Thats why they have google navigation on android.
I hate that there are people who still feel like this:
http://counternotions.com/2012/09/21/applemaps/
Dude, its a **** product and inexcusable. Stop kissing their asses and finding the handful of examples in Google Maps to suit your argument.
http://counternotions.com/2012/09/21/applemaps/
Dude, its a **** product and inexcusable. Stop kissing their asses and finding the handful of examples in Google Maps to suit your argument.
apple maps will never be as good if they dont have the google search engine behind them. That's what makes google maps a total beast app.
search for practically anything in google maps and it yeilds usefull results.
search for practically anything in google maps and it yeilds usefull results.
Sydney siders might be more concerned with this one.
I just got my iPhone 5, and i was looking up directions to the Shangri La hotel in Sydney city. The Apple map gave me directions that took me across the Harbour bridge, through a toll road, basically a massive detour as compared to the directions i got from google maps online.
I kinda understand when the maps get landmarks wrong. Perhaps just some data misentry. But not being able to calculate a simple straight forward route to a major hotel in a major city? Massive issue
I just got my iPhone 5, and i was looking up directions to the Shangri La hotel in Sydney city. The Apple map gave me directions that took me across the Harbour bridge, through a toll road, basically a massive detour as compared to the directions i got from google maps online.
I kinda understand when the maps get landmarks wrong. Perhaps just some data misentry. But not being able to calculate a simple straight forward route to a major hotel in a major city? Massive issue
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to the people who continue to say that apple maps is fine... no it isn't.
the data in my neighborhood is just flat out wrong. the streets are in the wrong places and they just made up names for the streets. it's seriously comical. google's interpretation of my neighborhood is flawless, down to the random roundabout.
the skeleton of apple maps is strong. lots of potential. but the cartography is simply not there and won't be for some time.
lol @ all the apple apologists who said "it's just in beta..."
now maybe you kids can learn what a beta is and why people were legitimately concerned that apple maps was so poor in its beta stages.
the data in my neighborhood is just flat out wrong. the streets are in the wrong places and they just made up names for the streets. it's seriously comical. google's interpretation of my neighborhood is flawless, down to the random roundabout.
the skeleton of apple maps is strong. lots of potential. but the cartography is simply not there and won't be for some time.
lol @ all the apple apologists who said "it's just in beta..."
now maybe you kids can learn what a beta is and why people were legitimately concerned that apple maps was so poor in its beta stages.
What a pathetic article.
This is right up there with VISTA: Even Your Grandmother Knows it Sucks
When your product launch is fodder for late-night comedians, you know you're screwed. When it becomes commonplace knowledge and even the government is having to route around it, your failure is complete.
I think this is a valid point. People have lost sense of perspective and are now just pilling on.
It is clear that Apple's maps are much inferior to Google's. But there are lots of errors in Google's also. Just recently it was mislabelling lots of highways across the US. And I find their transit info to be terrible in NY. The difference is that this gets corrected quickly in Google, and people just accept that mistakes and errors happen.
I also think that the criticism's of 3D render errors to be useless. The 3D is much better than Google's, even with the mistakes (in NY it is amazing and I want it expanded). What is very important for Apple to get on right away is fixing the wrong information. Second, to add missing information. Last of all is 3D.
What Apple really has to build is an equivalent to Google's Map Maker and create a community that can report and correct mistakes. This is the great feature behind Google's maps. If Apple thinks it can even be in the same ballpark with Google by just farming out its maps to TomTom et al, it better think again.
Apple right now is the new kid on the block who showed up with his shirt on backwards and inside out. And the other kids are all laughing. But they forget that some have holes in their socks, some have messy hair, etc, and they all had their own "first day".
I really want Apple to double down on its Maps. If only to get Google and others to continue pushing the envelope. Competition!
This is far worse than vista. Vista actually wasn't that bad. After sp1 it was pretty much perfect and with sp2 is even better. Apple with their ads about it tarnished its name which is why 7 came out so quickly after. Anyne who has used vista sp2 can tell you that its almost identical to windows 7.
You're really missing the point (well a few of them, to be honest).
1. Taking away a perfectly feasible product to push your own "take my ball and go home" agenda is stupid.
2. I get it, they're starting from the ground up (even though they've been working on it for supposedly 2 years). Now see point number one, please.
3. I take issue with customers proverbially saying "I dont care what crap you give us, I'll blindly go and buy it!".
Rule of thumb in selling to the public: add features, possibly hold back features that are not fully baked until the next version, but never ever ever take features away.
In particular with software, there are companies have have made clients extremely cross by using tiered pricing structures for their product and moving features from a lower tier to a higher one, effectively cutting out the former users. Bad, bad, bad customer relations move right there.
This is not a matter of gloating or trolling, it's just pointing out fact. It's not like a Democrat going to a Romney-supporting website and asking how the campaign's doing just to get a rise, it's more like a political commentator pointing out the campaign is a trainwreck and wondering what the man will do about it.
Apple screwed the pooch on this one, true fact. The product is not as good as Google and the extra shiny of turn by turn navigation doesn't make up for not being usable. So what are they going to do about it? It'll be interesting to see how things play out.
Personally, I'm all for a viable selection of competing smartphones because it keeps companies from getting lazy.
I don't expect Apple Maps to be perfect on day one... just don't remove a perfectly functioning maps app and replace it with rubbish, with no way of getting the old one back!
They didn't "take away a perfectly feasible product". Try to read the story behind the google-apple deal on maps. They simply could not rely on google, because as competitors, google is now positioning its maps to be much better on Android than what they make available on IOS.
Heck, go back and listen to Steve's 2007 talk about why they partner with other companies. He specifically said that they don't do map backent stuff well, and they are happy to partner with the ones who really know how to do that.
But from 2007 to now, Google is now competing directly with Apple on the front end. It would be suicide for Apple to rely on its more fearsome competitor for such a key technology.
So, just accept that Apple and Google decided to "break up". We all thought they were perfect for each other. It's all very sad. Maybe we'll get our wedding presents back.....
Now Apple has to figure out a way to do maps on its own. And Google has to figure out how to keep its presence in iOS.
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It isn't rubbish. That is my entire point. It has problems. Reading the forums you would think that there are errors all over the place.
I'm running a little experiment at home. I updated my wife's 4S to iOS6 without telling her about it (she doens't care).
I'll let you guys know if I hear anything at all about the maps. Even if it is a complaint about the new "system" for transit directions.
My prediction: this is way overblown. Unless Apple fails to build a system to correct these things.
Funny thing, I was arguing with our IT guy yesterday. He's stoked about Windows 8 and I asked him to explain what he can do with it that we couldn't do with 7 or XP or Win2K. No good explanation.
We found out backups broke because of changes he had to make to the network to get the new exchange version working.
The problem we're looking at with computers and software is that all the features we could reasonably want have been invented. The iphone was a relatively new offering and revolutionized the phone space but there's really not much else left to solve. We're going to be looking at iterative updates.
Look at air transport. We went from canvas and wood to aluminum and piston engines, then pressurized cabins and then jets. Speed kept increasing. But we've pretty much peaked with the 70's jetliner. We've made improvements in terms of efficiency, serviceability, reliability, materials and such but transit speed has not gotten much better than sub-mach. Cruise altitude isn't any higher. Total transit time has been increased due to TSA nonsense. Concorde could compete on speed but not on price, too damned expensive. And our existing liners are being turned into flying cattle cars with seats only midgets could enjoy.
What Apple's doing at this point is pretty much the equivalent of dickering with the paint job and seat upholstery, maybe changing up the drink selection. They haven't perfected the affordable supersonic transport, they haven't introduced sub-orbital rocket planes. The 747 is pretty damned impressive but if you have your heart set on the next big airliner being something radically new, you will be disappointed. It's a refinement of the best-proven design.
I'm pretty happy with what the iphone platform can do. I'm not happy with the BS apple has been throwing in of late. To compare it to airlines, it's like having $20 wifi in the air you get to pay for but it only works for 60% of the flight. Yes, it's a feature added to the basic plane, no it's not anything I'd wish to use. Maybe provide a power plug in the armrest of the seat the way they do on trains? No, you don't get that feature.
For the record, Google is positioning itself to be better on Android due to Apple, not Google.
It might not be rubbish where you live but it's rubbish where I live.
Look at my post here: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15781758/
There's a whole host of errors in a relatively small part of my city.
There are a number of errors where I live as well.
There are entire train and tube stations missing in London, and the train/tube stations that are there have the same icon so it's impossible to differentiate the two. Apple doesn't use the national rail/London underground icons either.
The colours also make the maps quite hard to read sometimes, roads are not different enough from the background of the map.
They suck BADLY.
I can see the potential, but they're rubbish right now.
Not to mention that there's an entire website dedicated to screenshots of how bad it is. I'd have to say... yeah. It's pretty bad.
I have to agree with this.
Google has been doing this for YEARS, it takes time, money and millions of crowdsourcing inputs. Apple and Google fell out and Apple has been running to get it's own maps together.
You all seem to think that it should be perfect the minute it comes out of the door. Well I have news for you, it was never supposed to be.
I know of at-least 5 errors in Google's maps that I have reported on many occasions and they have not been corrected.
Report errors and the service will be improved, simples.
You don't need to compare to Vista. Apple had it's own software launch after a major effort. It was called OS X. Version 10.0 was horrible (remember talk about "debug code"?).
But they kept pushing it and improved it significantly.
The difference? The user base for OS X was much, much less than it is for iOS. And the competition was very different.
I'm not an expert, but AFAIR, every 1.0 launch of an Apple software has been sub-par (iPhoto, iTunes, me.com, etc).
It was never supposed to be? Are you high or just that blind?
"Designed by Apple from the ground up, Maps gives you turn-by-turn spoken directions, interactive 3D views, and the stunning Flyover feature.1 All of which may just make this app the most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever."
Really? The most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever? I'm pretty sure thats a big statement for a headlining application of a major software update if it was never meant to be "perfect".
They are both big boys. They decided that the business of "staying together" just didn't work. So they went their separate ways.
Search for google's licensing demands in the last year or so and you'll see that they were pushing hard for more and more. Also raising prices for features like Turn by Turn (and they wouldn't let Apple do it, from what I read).
It's google's right to do so. But it was clear to Apple that they were at their mercy. When google positioned itself directly in competition with Apple, then the relationship had to change.
It's life. It's business.
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For you, they seem indeed rubbish.
So far, I've only had trouble with one POI (Yelp could really screw Apple here).