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I think it's great as it eliminates waste. I already have two but I use neither. Terrible waste.
 
You don't get a billion in cash giving away something many people will never use. You can, however, get a billion in cash while forcing everyone that buys a product to pay for a device they'll never use.

I don't understand why people don't use them, I can't live without remote buddy!
 
I never use my remote aswell, and in Europe Macbook Pros are cheaper after this update (in norway the base model went down 1000kr (~150$)) so the penryns are atleast here much cheaper, even if i have to pay the extra for the remote.
 
I'll agree, it's a very small percentage of the cost of a MB/MBP, but we're not seeing it from the same perspective as their bean-counters.

Bingo.

People who bitch and say that $2 or even $20 is nothing to apple have no concept of margins.

By the way, how come nobody ever says a thing when apple starts bundling in stuff they used to charge for? "ohhh in that case, it's cause tech prices went down- they're still greedy bastards!"
 
Bingo.

People who bitch and say that $20 is nothing to apple have no concept of margins.

I think the problem is perception and visibility. Bury the cost of the remote in the price of the laptop. I would not quibble or notice the extra $19 in the price of the computer but when you see it charged separately, the optics are not good.
 
why do ppl complain about things like this? If you don't like the fact that apple isn't a charity and actually wants to make money stop buying apple products... its that simple...

Cause some people here think they live in a commune or something.

I don't quite get it. I always wonder what professions they work in. I also assume they have never taken a business 101 course.

Whoever said that not getting a $20 remote for free was a dealbreaker -- WOW.
 
I think the problem is perception and visibility. Bury the cost of the remote in the price of the laptop. I would not quibble or notice the extra $19 in the price of the computer but when you see it charged separately, the optics are not good.

I hear you. But $2018 and $2518 are terrible price points!

What if they included the remote but took out another $5 cost item.. people would be complaining about that. And since I would imagine most people don't use their remotes, apple decided to ditch the remote instead of whatever other items that's inside the laptop itself or use a cheaper part on something.

No way does/should apple just eat the cost of the remote. If you're a shareholder (and I am not) and they did something dumb like that, you'd be suing with good reason.
 
I get it, Apple never does anything wrong. End of transmission.

Odd. I would have thought the words "forcing everyone that buys a product to pay for a device they'll never use" would have been considered criticism of Apple. I guess we're speaking a different dialect.
 
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