WOW, Safari just blows!

[Slip]

Safari pwns
I was using Safari on my PC before my MacBook arrived and the jump in speed when I moved to the Mac was amazing, it loads pages so fast, and looks downright cool, sleek, stylish, minimalist.

 

[Lord Blackadder]

Not sure what all the fuss is about...I use both FireFox and Safari almost interchangeably, and have found both to be fast and stable. I'm running the latest versions of both under Tiger on a PowerBook G4 and a PowerMac G4. No issues with either application on either machine.

I think it all comes down to which interface you prefer.

 

[WhySoSerious]

Not sure what all the fuss is about...I use both FireFox and Safari almost interchangeably, and have found both to be fast and stable. I'm running the latest versions of both under Tiger on a PowerBook G4 and a PowerMac G4. No issues with either application on either machine.

I think it all comes down to which interface you prefer.

i'm curious, why would anyone use more than one browser (in this case, Safari and FF)? i don't see the logic in it.

if you say you use Safari, then switch to FF if a page won't load in Safari....then why not just use FF 100% of the time knowing it will load any page?

if you say you use FF, then switch to Safari because you like the look (as an example), why not just use FF 100% of the time and d/load the Safari Theme for FF?

not trying to be critical of others, i just don't see the logic in using more than one browser. bottom line is, FF is just as fast as all the other browsers and even faster in some instances. plus with FF, you can customize the Theme and add Extensions. plus it'll display any web page, unlike Safari.

makes little sense really.

 

[Feverish Flux]

I think Safari may have crashed once on me across five different machines in the last two years. I have no issues with it whatsoever.

 

[notsofatjames]

I used to be a FF man, for the tab support, but safari 3 changed that. Safari's tab support is now a lot better than firefox imo. But by default, FF is one ugly browser! I do find safari 3 crashes more often than i'd like though, but FF is too slow to launch, and page loads are a little slower sometimes, though not noticeable unless your paying attention.

 

[MKnight]

Safari seems to crash more often when connected to a proxy server. Unfortunately because my MacBook Pro is my main computer at the office I have a fair bit of issues.

 

[savar]

Man, I've tried to like this web browser over the past 3 weeks, really. But the app just blows when it comes to functioning as a web browser compaired to FireFox.

Crashes, load times, funcionallity, no extensions, visuals, options available, etc.

I really wanted to like Safari and keep it around, but why would anyone choose to use this over Fire Fox is beyond me.

I use firefox on windows, but safari only on my mac. I wish it would adopt a few features from other browsers, but for the most part its really solid for me. Never crashes, opens instantly...

 

[elppa]

i'm curious, why would anyone use more than one browser (in this case, Safari and FF)? i don't see the logic in it.

if you say you use Safari, then switch to FF if a page won't load in Safari....then why not just use FF 100% of the time knowing it will load any page?

if you say you use FF, then switch to Safari because you like the look (as an example), why not just use FF 100% of the time and d/load the Safari Theme for FF?

not trying to be critical of others, i just don't see the logic in using more than one browser. bottom line is, FF is just as fast as all the other browsers and even faster in some instances. plus with FF, you can customize the Theme and add Extensions. plus it'll display any web page, unlike Safari.

makes little sense really.

Web Developers may wish to use more than one browser and many people might just like a change from time to time. And whilst you can get FF to look like Safari, it still won't support services like the Address Book and system wide spell and grammar checking. FF has a spell-checker, you say. True, but if I add a word to the dictionary in Mail I don't particularly want to have to add it again to my FF dictionary.

All browsers have their strengths and weaknesses. Some people on this thread aren't open minded enough. You say FF loads everything, which is not accurate because it won't handle ActiveX controls on the Mac.

Safari does the job Apple wants off it and does it well. Apple couldn't have chosen the Gecko engine (used by Firefox, Flock and Camino) because it is not great on mobile devices. Their choice of WebKit (KHTML) has worked, because it allows them use an advanced browser in the Touch and iPhone. Google has also gone with web kit for Android. The other choice would have been Opera mobile.

Also Safari supports some stuff which no other browser supports (as far as I know) from the CSS 3 spec AND is constantly delivering good standards support (it passed the ACID 2 test before FF, for example).

 

[Lord Blackadder]

i'm curious, why would anyone use more than one browser (in this case, Safari and FF)? i don't see the logic in it.

For the reasons elppa mentioned, for starters. To be honest, there isn't a whole lot separating the performance between the two browsers IMHO, so I'd have to disagree with your contention that one must be better than the others. They each have their strengths and weaknesses, but neither one is miles better than the other in my experience, and I've been using both since day 1. Sometimes as versions change bugs pop up, or new features that I like, but the only browser I've used that actually sucked was IE.

 

[WhySoSerious]

Web Developers may wish to use more than one browser and many people might just like a change from time to time. And whilst you can get FF to look like Safari, it still won't support services like the Address Book and system wide spell and grammar checking. FF has a spell-checker, you say. True, but if I add a word to the dictionary in Mail I don't particularly want to have to add it again to my FF dictionary.

All browsers have their strengths and weaknesses. Some people on this thread aren't open minded enough. You say FF loads everything, which is not accurate because it won't handle ActiveX controls on the Mac.

Safari does the job Apple wants off it and does it well. Apple couldn't have chosen the Gecko engine (used by Firefox, Flock and Camino) because it is not great on mobile devices. Their choice of WebKit (KHTML) has worked, because it allows them use an advanced browser in the Touch and iPhone. Google has also gone with web kit for Android. The other choice would have been Opera mobile.

Also Safari supports some stuff which no other browser supports (as far as I know) from the CSS 3 spec AND is constantly delivering good standards support (it passed the ACID 2 test before FF, for example).

ok, i see where you're coming from. good points.

 

[TheStu]

I generally browse solely in Safari, and it works really well for me. I haven't had it crash yet (though it has frozen a bit on me on me once or twice) which is better than it was on Tiger (Safari 3). It integrates well with the OS (Uses the OS X dictionary, the OS X password handler, looks like it belongs in OS X, 'Safe' downloads are unzipped or auto-mounted).

On occasion i will come across a page that doesn't render correctly (which I attribute to the site rather than the browser, Safari3 has passed the ACID2) and so I will have to turn on Firefox... but past that, i live in Safari.

 

[UbuntuFu]

I tried to like Safari when I upgraded to Leopard, but it still blows.

I am a heavy tab window user. I usually have 6 or 7 tabs up. Safari constantly beach balls where I have to force quit. It even happens when I try to quit Safari or shut down. I send the report to Apple daily. Another annoying thing with Safari is that it opens links from the web it a new window but not tabs.

I was a Firefox guy on my Powerbook with Tiger. but I recently discovered Camino and I'm liking it so far.

 

[brkirch]

If you are having problems with Safari then more than likely it is a problem with the plugins and not Safari itself. I have not had a crash or slowdown with Safari in a long time, and Safari has been even more responsive with 10.5.

 

[dpaanlka]

Safari 3 has been running pretty good for me.

 

[UbuntuFu]

I tried to like Safari when I upgraded to Leopard, but it still blows.

I am a heavy tab window user. I usually have 6 or 7 tabs up. Safari constantly beach balls where I have to force quit. It even happens when I try to quit Safari or shut down. I send the report to Apple daily. Another annoying thing with Safari is that it opens links from the web it a new window but not tabs.

I was a Firefox guy on my Powerbook with Tiger. but I recently discovered Camino and I'm liking it so far.

edit, I'm not using any plug-ins on any browser.

 

[KurtangleTN]

Safari 3 for Leopard uses far too much ram, I'm normally at a minimum of 60 mbs, and not even doing intensive stuff and I'll have 120mbs or so, as soon as Firefox 3 comes out, I'm defiantly switching.

 

[ScubaDuc]

Safari has NEVER crashed on my Al 24" iMac.
. . . . and it is fast.

I have 3 macs and Safari crashes on all of them... It just ....pufff...and it's gone

With the new Safari 3 I have started getting adds based on my IP location. Fact is I travel a lot and now I have a multilingual garble with (at present) adverts in French when my chosen language is English...

Thing is that I don't buy anything in French....even when I am in France


Go figure....

 

[invasian]

I hear you. That is really the only issue I have with Camino. I still forget to check URLs and click on .pdf files and then the download starts. I am so desperate that I am considering attempting to write a plug-in for Camino. Given how little coding I have done in recent years it could be real painful. But a good sign of my desperation.

You'd be my hero if you did that, but then i would need camino to have mouse gestures too. Is there a reason why there is no PDF support in Firefox for mac?