Yes, and that's clearly what Apple's goal is. Because the company's success and reputation was built on harvesting and selling/sharing your private information to the government and private sector...Sheesh.
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WSJ: Apple to Release iPhone Journaling App for Logging Daily Activities
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Yes, and that's clearly what Apple's goal is. Because the company's success and reputation was built on harvesting and selling/sharing your private information to the government and private sector...Sheesh.
On device, on device, on device.
One more time, on device.
Just like your fingerprint or FaceID, this is going to be locked down via the Secure Enclave and won’t ever leave the device.
Trust what Apple says all you want. iCloud backup will nullify the on device part. Yes, I know there are advanced encryption service for users who are willing to enable, but by default it is not there. And, Apple doesn’t necessarily need to know the content to such Extend that personally identifiable information is part of the analysis.
The app looks at the data, not Apple.
Conspiracy theory drivel.
Using this app is also a voluntary thing people can opt to do.
Several categories of data are end to end encrypted without advanced data protection, such as health data.
"The app will analyze the users' behavior to determine.."
Would this be an issue for some?
Does the app keep the information on the person's iDevice? Or will it send some back to Apple?
Privacy rights people will have issues with this part.
The WSJ has an article in today's paper and the online comments are full of privacy nuts swearing off the app and of Apple.
Would this be an issue for some?
Does the app keep the information on the person's iDevice? Or will it send some back to Apple?
Privacy rights people will have issues with this part.
The WSJ has an article in today's paper and the online comments are full of privacy nuts swearing off the app and of Apple.
Like everything else apple, things related to this app will change over time and it will be up to the individual to decide to use this or not. Even the WSJ article makes mention of apples privacy and how it’s sometimes a detriment.
Having your private thoughts accessible to others is not unique to Apple of course, all journals can potentially be used against their creators in some way.
I’m fine with trends, but if it’s not PII and they can’t read the content then what do I care? Apple’s business model doesn’t rely on selling your data, so what do I care if their telemetry is actually used for what telemetry is supposed to be used for?
I’m just drawing a distinction between Apple, who doesn’t need your personal data, and the entirety of the rest of Silicon Valley who’s business models ARE scraping/collecting/packaging/selling that data. Some people handwave that away, but it is a *major* difference in incentives and therefore trust.
Do you have any proof of this? Or is this just an inflammatory comment?
This is something I'm very interested in. I'm a Day One user; I keep track of books I finish in one journal and once a week, do a short overview of whatever happened that week. Nothing too deep but I love getting alerts that two years ago I did this thing. I often send my wife a screen shot of something we did that I wrote about.
Since I bought the original app, I was grandfathered into Day One's plus plan, so I don't get all the bells and whistles, but I also don't pay a fee. I think whoever bought Day One (can't remember who at the moment) made a mistake with the subscription model. Some apps make sense to use that model but not a journal app. It's nice they're keeping up with the app and updating it regularly, but it seems to have become unnecessarily complex to me. If you look at the original versions settings, there was little there but I thought the original version worked really well, was simple and straightforward and did what it was meant to do.
Since I bought the original app, I was grandfathered into Day One's plus plan, so I don't get all the bells and whistles, but I also don't pay a fee. I think whoever bought Day One (can't remember who at the moment) made a mistake with the subscription model. Some apps make sense to use that model but not a journal app. It's nice they're keeping up with the app and updating it regularly, but it seems to have become unnecessarily complex to me. If you look at the original versions settings, there was little there but I thought the original version worked really well, was simple and straightforward and did what it was meant to do.
As much as I absolutely hate Apple abusing its status as the world's largest corporation to Sherlock small products, I've never trusted these third party e-journal apps and have never used them. If Apple's journals fell under iCloud Advanced Data Protection, I'd be MUCH more likely to use it.
This sounds great actually, and sort of needed after all the journaling apps decided to sell their soul to the subscription service model... 🙄
As a Day One user for the last 10+ years, Apple will have a brutal learning curve. A good Journal is not about tracking the user. Import/Export, Search, tagging, finding specific dates, importing media etc. — all that matters a lot. It will be difficult to Sherlock apps like Stoic and Day One, especially as most Apple stock apps are almost always lacking THAT last bit of functionality that 3rd party apps deliver.
I am *trying* to escape from Evernote, and have started using Notes some
Sometimes the organizational difference between Notes and Files confuses. I expect to see one directory structure and get the other. Do you ever experience that?
Right now I use AwesomeNote as the front end to Evernote content
I like the AwesomeNote interface a lot - it gives me fast "time to enter first thought before I forget it" vs Notes.
(AwesomeNote pic from Evernote website)
I was thinking about switching to Notion too, but was wondering if that is overkill.
Though I have 5,600 notes in Evernote, so maybe not.
Stuff costs money, even for software developers.
Interested to see what Apple comes up with here. I’m a long time user of Day One, with about 2500 entries in there now currently. At the bare minimum there would need to be some ability to migrate that data to even have it be a consideration.
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Lack of features is in itself a feature. One that no third-party app can afford to have, because it must always prove it's value to a paying customer. Apple Journal is free (with purchase of a $1000 iPhone), it can be minimal and clean. Just the basics done right.
Nobody cares if you migrate. Apple's preinstalled apps are meant to promote customer loyalty, not to steal users from third-party apps. Apple doesn't want to actively gain market share from other journal apps like DayOne, they simply don't care if they die or survive. Either way is fine!
You have a mobile phone, right? That’s the ultimate constant tracking device. If you’re afraid of big brother, you should destroy it post haste. It already tracks your personal movement even if you disable location services.
As described, this sounds like an app that aims to streamline journaling by integrating data sources already on your phone, with on-device analysis. That’s certainly feasible.
And it makes a ton of sense. Why silo photos in the Photos app? Let me easily and quickly attach them to a daily journal. Same with messages and important emails. Deeper cross-app integration would be immensely helpful.
A journaling app is nice, but frankly I’d rather see Apple revive the database app, Bento.
Really? If I pay the annual subscription for Day One ($25 for me) for the rest of my life, it won't come close to what I spend for a single iPhone. It's an app I use almost daily, so the subscription price seems inconsequential.
I don't know much about Apple's journaling app, but hearing about it and about it being useful for "mental health" reasons, I think it's probably going to be focused on something very different than the way I use Day One, which is most (but not exclusively) to journal all our stops on cruises, cross-country road trips, and hockey trips.
Will the Apple app allow me to create multiple journals, for different topics? To add photos and videos to journal entries? Automatically record the weather conditions where I was at? Show the locations I made those entries on a map?
I know a lot of people (including me) use the Apple apps because they're "good enough," and maybe Day One will lose some customers because of this new app. I think it's fantastic, though, and will continue to use Day One.