Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
All iPads WTF?! Everyone at Apple Store is buying BOTH
- Thread starter AdonisSMU
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I don't believe I have more money than sense for owning two different products. I just have a need for two different products. You, however, can take your condescension elsewhere.
They are just different enough that I chose to buy both. Plus it's handy to have the big one for home and the mini to take daily.
Maybe you need 2 iPads in order to have more than 3 tabs open without crashing the browser or reloading? Having 2 iPads gives you twice the ram!
Got 6 tabs open on the Mini now with no issues. Have you even used an iPad? I've never had browser issues on any iPad I've owned since the original iPad's launch. Maybe you just have crap luck. 2 iPads give me a movie iPad and a gaming iPad when I travel. Not to mention one for my wife.
Year I've owned iPads 1,2 and 3. Also tried the air at the Apple store and all of them had tab refreshing issues.
Bought both on their respective launch days. Yesterday was the return date for the Air. Decided to keep the Air as it was easier on my eyes over extended usage with browsing the web and games. Not as light as the Mini but better than my former IPad 3. Returned the rMini today. Both are very good tablets.
Sounds like user error. Or what we used to call behind the Genius Bar a code 43468 error.
I bought both. Got a ATT 16GB ipad mini and and 16GB wifi ipad air. Both have their strong points and drawbacks but after using both for a day now I'm returning both and getting a 32GB ATT ipad air. I love the idea of the mini but it just doesn't work for me in practice. Awesome device though. I feel bad for returning both as I hate returning open items with no defects but I hate second guessing myself even more. Sorry, Apple. May my $750 dry your tears.
It's more like "we're too cheap to include sufficient ram" error. Even midrange android/windows tablets come with 2gb of ram.
Never had like two tabs open in Safari, switched apps and then came back 5 or 10 minutes later and the tabs refreshes?
That happens to me sometimes. But sometimes I have 10 tabs open and all ten I can access without reloading. I am not 100% sure this is a memory problem only. There is some iOS/Safari bugs causing this, plus the websites themselves may be doing funky things.
That has never been a problem for me. Android/Windows tablets 2+gig ram because they need it to keep up with Apple's 1gig ram...
Tab refreshes dont really matter to me because it doesn't happen often enough for me to notice it hindering my workflow. If ive been away from my browser i expect it to refresh everything. I want the resources being used efficiently. One person is only ever doing one task at any given time regardless of what computer you are using.
Definitely ram issues when using Safari. Sometimes it behaves itself, other times, when you've switched around to other apps a few times, tabs need constantly refreshing. I've had situations where I've had two tabs open, written a forum response in one tab, flipped to the other tab briefly, then back and a refresh is forced and I lose data. Inexplicably, my old iPad 3 behaved much better in this regard.
It's rectified for a little while pretty much by closing Safari completely and reopening, suggesting (hopefully) a memory leak, but there's no debate that there's a problem. Great, some people haven't experienced it, but how are you using Safari? A couple of tabs and rarely/never switching to other apps? With that usage, the problem doesn't surface nearly as much. There's hope optimisation will help, and my 5S doesn't exhibit near the same problem and can hold a tonne of tabs in memory without the need to refresh.
It's the lack of ram that seriously motivated me to return the Air, and plump for a spanky new rmbp/retina mini combo. The iPad's ram/OS inadequacies really don't bother me at all when using the Mini as it's a dream portable entertainment device. For extensive browsing, work etc I've genuinely no idea how people use an iPad at length, it'd drive me banana's.
It baffles me how Apple spent so much time positioning the iPad as a productivity tool, putting the iWork suite front and centre of their keynote, then bunged a poxy 1gb ram into the iPad. A true multitasking workhouse it ain't (which is actually fine by me, as I don't use it in that way) and as much as I'm not a fan of the Surface (a jumble of compromises imo) if you really insist on a tablet as a productivity device, you'd be far better served by a Surface. Really though, buy a bloody laptop for such activities, it's a billion times better.
No offence, and I'm not saying this to start a disrespectful, petty argument, but that is absolute nonsense and borne out of ignorance as to how huge swathes of people, other than yourself, use computers. It's arguably just about applicable to iPad's, by the nature of their design, but "real" computers?!!!! To quote your thread title, WTF?!
It's rectified for a little while pretty much by closing Safari completely and reopening, suggesting (hopefully) a memory leak, but there's no debate that there's a problem. Great, some people haven't experienced it, but how are you using Safari? A couple of tabs and rarely/never switching to other apps? With that usage, the problem doesn't surface nearly as much. There's hope optimisation will help, and my 5S doesn't exhibit near the same problem and can hold a tonne of tabs in memory without the need to refresh.
It's the lack of ram that seriously motivated me to return the Air, and plump for a spanky new rmbp/retina mini combo. The iPad's ram/OS inadequacies really don't bother me at all when using the Mini as it's a dream portable entertainment device. For extensive browsing, work etc I've genuinely no idea how people use an iPad at length, it'd drive me banana's.
It baffles me how Apple spent so much time positioning the iPad as a productivity tool, putting the iWork suite front and centre of their keynote, then bunged a poxy 1gb ram into the iPad. A true multitasking workhouse it ain't (which is actually fine by me, as I don't use it in that way) and as much as I'm not a fan of the Surface (a jumble of compromises imo) if you really insist on a tablet as a productivity device, you'd be far better served by a Surface. Really though, buy a bloody laptop for such activities, it's a billion times better.
No offence, and I'm not saying this to start a disrespectful, petty argument, but that is absolute nonsense and borne out of ignorance as to how huge swathes of people, other than yourself, use computers. It's arguably just about applicable to iPad's, by the nature of their design, but "real" computers?!!!! To quote your thread title, WTF?!
Last edited:
In my definition of PC replacement, it doesn't count as a replacement until you don't own a PC and keep it in your home. This seems to becoming close to a replacement for you, but it seems that if your MBP were to be stolen tomorrow, you would go out and buy a PC of some sort and not just be content to own only a iPad. From Apple's position they only care if you buy a computer or not. Interestingly, from Google's position they care how much you use the hardware they sell you because it is through that use that they monetize you. So for Google as you shift from laptop to tablet the tablet becomes more valuable to them. For Apple the key factor is that you are still a laptop customer and a tablet customer and that doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon.
I will say it again a person is only ever doing one thing at a time with his or her computer. You confuse switching between tasks with multi tasking. Im sorry but what most people call multi tasking and want to use it for is actually context switching. People are terrible at multitasking. Aside from video/music ...I fail to see how your weak argument holds up.....
90% of what people are asking for with multitasking isnt actually multitasking. That is why Apple limits the multitasking on its devices to special requests from app makers.
No, I'm certainly not confusing multitasking with switching between tasks. I'm talking about running VM's, administering different processes at the same time etc., all of which are impossible on an iPad.
Context switching, the iPad can just about handle and, indeed, is all about doing one thing at a time. The lack of ram on the iPad is a major impediment to even doing this effectively. If you have to, for example, copy data before switching to another app for fear of losing said data, the hardware/software has failed. The iPad struggles to do even this, which is why I'm surprised Apple put productivity front and centre of their keynotes when it's utterly hopeless beyond the simplest of tasks.
Give it up man. The Air is NOT over saturated. God stop regurgitating incorrect info.
Wow. Where did you leave your sense of humor?
Did you actually believe I bought two iPads so their displays balanced each other out???While on the subject, I have a bridge for sale in San Francisco. Cheap. Let me know if you are interested....
JOKING!!!
This makes no sense at all!
Two incorrectly-saturated displays don't cancel each other out.