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[WW] Here we go! Game Over!

Scepticalscribe said:
Yes. A close finish between a cardiac arrest and a last minute lynching.

However, asterisks, no matter how fluent, and one word posts (even if comprising bolded names) are no real substitute for explanation and reasoned argument.

And, my point about the ease and usefulness of infecting the NW stands; I've seen it happen too often to discount it.
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My vote change was really based on your waiting until the extreme last minute to place your vote, when you've been in the thread all day.

And then agreeing with DP about the fact that PB wasn't a WW minutes after making your vote hit me as well.

I guess we'll see what shakes down tonight and go from there!
 
Moyank24 said:
My vote change was really based on your waiting until the extreme last minute to place your vote, when you've been in the thread all day.

And then agreeing with DP about the fact that PB wasn't a WW minutes after making your vote hit me as well.

I guess we'll see what shakes down tonight and go from there!
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All day? Bit of an exaggeration. Anyway, I do have other things to do.

Actually, I won't be around for a fair bit of tomorrow, and very much doubt I'll be be here at all on Friday, as I expect I'll be attending meetings for most of the day.

Now, of course, I wasn't convinced that philbeeney was guilty, but I didn't really think that either of the others were, and I certainly wasn't going to vote for them instead of someone who has hardy graced us with his presence.

Moreover, as he wasn't terribly active, I felt it time to put a little pressure on him. Likewise, Dsching; I have little time for one word posts. We have language - let us use it.

To be honest, I toyed with either voting for Dsching, or casting a no-vote; but I don't much care for no votes, and saw no reason to preserve philbeeney.
 
Moyank24 said:
I'm Italian. And a mother.

So, exaggeration is my middle name!

But, I was offering an explanation for my change.
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Fair enough.

Well, Italian Mothers are usually excellent when faced with the task of feeding a family, and I am an avid collector (and tester and cook) of recipes.

Actually, this past autumn, our old cooker died of extreme old age, and I bought a Rangemaster to replace it. A pity my mother is beginning to get beyond the stage where she really can enjoy or appreciate good food.
 
not surprising at all.
if he was a WW, even if he couldn't be present, the other WW could have easily saved him, without any major suspicion raised, especially if it was done earlier.

to a lesser extent the same goes for rick and QoS. They really would have risked a lot by not putting the third vote on one of the other two. in fact, it make no sense to me that QoS and rick waited to put that third vote in that would have protected them. Unless they knew they had a fourth vote at the ready if things got messy. still very risky strategy for wolves, but if true it would buy them some good will.


based on the posting here is my infamous list (from which my name is notably absent, insert it where you will)

tomorrow, dsching, moyank
rick, queenofspades
curmodgeonette, mrkramer, scepticalscribe

this is for original wolves only. for infection is basically reversed, but i wouldn't worry about that now.

oh and if our seer is still with us, i am not sure what you are waiting for, but we sure use some information in the morning, even if it is just to clear people up
[doublepost=1455136667][/doublepost]the final tally of the day
philbeeney: (3): rick snagwell, Moyank24, scepticalscribe
Queen of Spades: (2): mrkramer, curmudgeonette
rick snagwell: (2): Queen of Spades, Tomorrow
Scepticalscribe: (1): Don't panic, dsching
Don't panic: (1): philbeeney

i think we missed an opportunity here

@rick snagwell, i am curious as why you didn't switch your vote to QoS?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if there even IS a seer. I know it was suggested that one would be named, but I've heard NOTHING since.

With no WW's killed so far, it's looking pretty grim.
 
It's now Day 5.

Moyank24 has been killed.

Deadline will be in ~24 hours and 10 minutes (1pm, PST. Ill post the table shortly).
 
Moyank24 said:
Well, that's just rude.

Unsurprising, but rude.
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Agreed, lacking in etiquette, manners, and class, and more than a bit precipitate.

Please accept my condolences and deepest sympathies.

And it now seems as though I'll hardly get to see - let alone get to try out your terrific spag bol recipe, or the wonderful ones which feature borlotti beans.
 
Don't panic said:
at this point i would be very surprised if philbeeney is a WW
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Don't panic said:
not surprising at all.
if he was a WW, even if he couldn't be present, the other WW could have easily saved him, without any major suspicion raised, especially if it was done earlier.

to a lesser extent the same goes for rick and QoS. They really would have risked a lot by not putting the third vote on one of the other two. in fact, it make no sense to me that QoS and rick waited to put that third vote in that would have protected them. Unless they knew they had a fourth vote at the ready if things got messy. still very risky strategy for wolves, but if true it would buy them some good will.


based on the posting here is my infamous list (from which my name is notably absent, insert it where you will)

tomorrow, dsching, moyank
rick, queenofspades
curmodgeonette, mrkramer, scepticalscribe

this is for original wolves only. for infection is basically reversed, but i wouldn't worry about that now.

oh and if our seer is still with us, i am not sure what you are waiting for, but we sure use some information in the morning, even if it is just to clear people up
[doublepost=1455136667][/doublepost]the final tally of the day
philbeeney: (3): rick snagwell, Moyank24, scepticalscribe
Queen of Spades: (2): mrkramer, curmudgeonette
rick snagwell: (2): Queen of Spades, Tomorrow
Scepticalscribe: (1): Don't panic, dsching
Don't panic: (1): philbeeney

i think we missed an opportunity here

@rick snagwell, i am curious as why you didn't switch your vote to QoS?
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so your post 255 states go for mrkramer or curmudgeonette, right? is this based on anything?
 
Scepticalscribe. The timing of all these posts seems off, to me. Don't Panic is making me twitch a bit, as well.
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Don't panic said:
especially for you, unfortunately

edit: well, the seer could have been one of the people killed after night 1
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(highlight mine)

This post bothers me more and more each time I read it. Why would a villager say that?

Switching to Don't panic.
 
Tomorrow said:
Scepticalscribe. The timing of all these posts seems off, to me. Don't Panic is making me twitch a bit, as well.
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(highlight mine)

This post bothers me more and more each time I read it. Why would a villager say that?

Switching to Don't panic.
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I also was about to vote for Scepticalscribe, since she keeps waiting until the end of the day to cast a vote despite being active in the thread for much of the day. However after looking at what you have to say about Don't Panic's post you got me wondering. So @Don't panic do you have anything to add about your post?
 
Hopefully we get it right today. If we get another villager then I think this is the last day. We have 8 left, 5 villagers and 3 wolves assuming the infection has been used. If we kill a villager that goes down to 4 to 3 and a tie after the wolves kill at night.
 
Tomorrow said:
Scepticalscribe. The timing of all these posts seems off, to me. Don't Panic is making me twitch a bit, as well.
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(highlight mine)

This post bothers me more and more each time I read it. Why would a villager say that?

Switching to Don't panic.
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ehr, because you claim to be the guard and thus you are by a fair margin the highest value target for the wolves?
i was expecting both last night and tonight, to find you murdered or that the attempt was foiled (if you guarded yourself).

while moyank (and dsching) were also obvious targets since they were cleared, you are a much juicier one, hence my comment

edit: i thought it would be very obvious, your reaction (and that of mrkramer) is quite strange
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rick snagwell said:
so your post 255 states go for mrkramer or curmudgeonette, right? is this based on anything?
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based on who i considered most likely to be the (original) wolves when i posted that

- tomorrow, dsching, moyank were all somewhat cleared (from being original words, not from being infected, in fact tomorrow would be the best candidate for infection)

- you (Rick) and QoS were on the bubble along with philbeeney. i really didn't think philbeeney was the WW, so i didn't consider switching to him.
you and queen could have been easily saved by a friendly wolf if you were, but that wasn't happening, so that made you a bit less likely to be wolves [that however doesn't explain why neither you nor queen voted to save yourself when you were both around. fancy to propose a reason? unless you are both WW, biding your time in a very high risk situation and ready to pounce on phil only if necessary. unlikely but not impossible, but in that case, nice play]

- that left curmodgeonette, mrkramer, scepticalscribe.
i was already voting for SS as she was in my shortlist (still is), so for a last minute switcharoo i would have considered curmodgeonette or mrkramer as the other two remaining candidates.

now, i have to say that my suspicion of SS is still fully there, and her willingn to go after dsching (who at best would have been an infected WW, and not a very likely one at that), made it stronger
tomorrow and/or mrkramer also are looking mightily iffy right now, although IF tomorrow is involved he would be as the infected, so i wouldn't go after him now, since the rpiority is certainly to get the two original wolves
 
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Don't panic said:
ehr, because you claim to be the guard and thus you are by a fair margin the highest value target for the wolves?
i was expecting both last night and tonight, to find you murdered or that the attempt was foiled (if you guarded yourself).

while moyank (and dsching) were also obvious targets since they were cleared, you are a much juicier one, hence my comment
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Well I forgot that Tomorrow was the guard, in that case I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and switch back to my suspicion of Sceptical Scribe.
 
Tomorrow said:
Scepticalscribe. The timing of all these posts seems off, to me. Don't Panic is making me twitch a bit, as well.
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(highlight mine)

This post bothers me more and more each time I read it. Why would a villager say that?

Switching to Don't panic.
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This is flimsy. Not that DP shouldn't be looked at closely, but as he mentioned, you're likely up next because you're cleared/special.

Here's the list of OG wolf remaining suspects (screw the infection for now):

1) rick snagwell
2) Scepticalscribe
3) curmudgeonette
4) mrkramer
5) Don't panic

Now that I've taken the time to compile a vote/role chart of my own, the issue here is there hasn't been a ton of heat on anyone on this list outside of Day 1 - which has to be taken with a grain of salt. Let's take a look anyway:

a) With mkramer and Moyank tied for the lead early, curmudgeonette casts a useless vote for WoodNUFC (later found to be a villager). She never changes this despite the later frenzy.

b) mrkramer casts a defensive vote for Moyank, pushing her to 3 votes while he stays at 2.

c) Scepticalscribe tallies the votes faithfully but makes no move whatsoever for quite awhile.

d) with SS having only 1 vote, mrkramer votes for her to push her into a tie (important), but as the 3rd place option.

e) Some votes and switching happens, and now the leaders are raven (3), Wood (2), and SS (2).

f) Dsching and Pluto do their thing and now its a 3-way tie: Wood (3), raven (3), SS (3).

g) SS votes for Wood, defensively, pushing him to 4 (lead).

h) Wood and I vote raven - raven dies.

And with the exception of DP (voted rick), everyone on my list voted Sythas on Day 3. rick's was a defensive vote to save his own arse.
[doublepost=1455153003][/doublepost]And mrkramer voting SS right off the bat is very interesting.
 
I tend to overthink things in terms of wolf moves (I can't help it, plus it's fun), but at this point the kamikaze is still in play. The kami being voted off wouldn't be the worst thing for the wolves, particularly if it clears the other wolf.
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rick snagwell said:
why did you vote don't panic and switch to ss?

i was gonng vote you, should i?
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I was going to vote SS to begin with, however since I forgot that Tomorrow had claimed to be the guard Don't Panic's post seemed odd. Once I was reminded that Tomorrow had said he was the guard then Don't Panic's post made more sense so I went back to my original suspicion of SS since she has been active in the thread a lot during the day, but waits until the end of the day to actually cast a vote which is unusual for her.
 
i have no clue...was gonna wait to see what you were thinking. should we worry that you are still alive?

ill throw a placeholder vote for mrkramer right now.
 
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