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[WW] - Heroes - Game Over! Good Guys win!

twietee said:
well, it wasn't exactly the most laid back lynching. and the other 'suspect' claimed to be a villager too..

.. I unsuccesfully tried for 30sec to move over to another player, but that's another story..
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Twietee: "30 seconds" will not shift a mobilised band-wagon, not shortly before the deadline, not when there is not a pressing or imperative reason not to do so, and not when a particular "day" has already lasted for the best part of 48 hours.

In those circumstances, - barring a dramatic revelation - a last minute change is not going to happen, especially if one has tried to alter the momentum for all of thirty seconds…..
 
rick snagwell said:
well he stated he was, and ive never seen him cry wolf.

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i think most are kept at their word until they are proven to say anything it takes to survive, and koodauw should of been kept at his word.

moving on...
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I think Moyank could potential have more useful role than Koodauw. We don't know that but you don't repeatedly state you are a powerful villager for no reason. From her defending herself, she seems to be a super important role. Seer or guard perhaps? If she doesn't die soon though, I'll be VERY suspicious since the wolves want to cripple as as much as possible and taking out a strong role is one way to do it.

That being said now the wolves could use a risky strategy and keep her alive to keep us suspicious of her. I don't think Moyank is safe anymore. All I wanna say to Moyank is that if you are the seer tell us everything you know now because you might not have much time left.

Sorry for not posting much of my thoughts however I don't get brainwaves very often:p

Knowing the rest of you, this is all probably just useless obvious stuff:p
 
twietee said:
well, it wasn't exactly the most laid back lynching. and the other 'suspect' claimed to be a villager too..

.. I unsuccesfully tried for 30sec to move over to another player, but that's another story..
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Right, there weren't many options. I admittedly came late to this vote and there were already 2 villagers with an abundance of votes.
 
Scepticalscribe said:
Twietee: "30 seconds" will not shift a mobilised band-wagon, not shortly before the deadline, not when there is not a pressing or imperative reason not to do so, and not when a particular "day" has already lasted for the best part of 48 hours.

In those circumstances, - barring a dramatic revelation - a last minute change is not going to happen, especially if one has tried to alter the momentum for all of thirty seconds…..
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It wasn't meant all that serious though. ;)
 
With all these fancy rules, roles and stuff:, let's not forget that there is a 1/3 chance of a Maniac running free who could easily override any protection.

I have no clue how we can possibly win this. :(
 
twietee said:
With all these fancy rules, roles and stuff:, let's not forget that there is a 1/3 chance of a Maniac running free who could easily override any protection.

I have no clue how we can possibly win this. :(
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I think we realistically have one more day/one more shot. Unless the seer is still alive and can help us out.
 
twietee said:
With all these fancy rules, roles and stuff:, let's not forget that there is a 1/3 chance of a Maniac running free who could easily override any protection.

I have no clue how we can possibly win this. :(
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lol, its nuts. and an infection as well. did we find out what wolf tomorrow was?
 
yes I think we are at a limit where the villagers have a moderate chance of winning.

Techgod, Rick and twietee are my primary suspect, again general feel of there posting style no more information.
 
Sythas said:
yes I think we are at a limit where the villagers have a moderate chance of winning.

Techgod, Rick and twietee are my primary suspect, again general feel of there posting style no more information.
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Hmm. I really am not.

I don't think my role is too useful to the village but it's something and killing me won't help.
 
rick snagwell said:
lol, its nuts. and an infection as well. did we find out what wolf tomorrow was?
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No, we did not. He could have been:

a)
Alpha
Kami
3.WW

b)
Infected Executioner
Infected but not the Executioner

c)
Morpher who went baddie

Some scenarios are definitely much more likely than others but until the gravedigger (or Seer) comes out with more info we can't say anything for sure. Which really is a problem imo, since it a) seemingly divides our team and b) doesn't help clearing (as in 100%) at least SD and aggie. I personally think he got infected after Pluto got lynched but there is no proof of course.

That said, worst case now is 3 WW (+ eventually even the Morpher) including the Die-Hard and the Maniac. That means we lose 2 extra villagers because of the Kami and Maniac and have one extra lynching to do because of the die-hard meaning we lose one extra villager at the night in between. We wouldn't even know if Bruce "Leecher" Willis really is a baddie for sure of course..:rolleyes:

I admit feeling utterly lost, this definitely is my worst game so far. A bit like Day1 voting except that if we don't get it right this time it looks like Game Over.

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The circumstance that the only WW got caught so far via personal vendetta and not even really game related (well that's how it looks at least) tells a lot.
 
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Agreed. There is too much we don't know, (along with too much detail to master and constantly revise) and the lack of any unifying sense among the Villagers/Heroes makes it all a lot worse.

Even more, the fact that there are so many roles (with unclear powers and uses), means that the Village/Heroes are atomised, rather than united, and, in the absence of clear direction, or knowledge, or trust, are acting as (selfishly motivated) individuals, rather than in the 'common interest'. (Whereas, I rather suspect that the WWs are playing very much as a team - with their common goal in mind - on this occasion).

This is actually the sort of game where something along the lines of a NW - which does not necessarily have powers, but can communicate with one another to discuss strategies, suspicions, and ideas, in private - might have been useful.
 
Scepticalscribe said:
This is actually the sort of game where something along the lines of a NW - which does not necessarily have powers, but can communicate with one another to discuss strategies, suspicions, and ideas, in private - might have been useful.
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I fully agree. The lack of constructive communication is a serious problem (and deligthfully observed and supported by a vicious WW minority). We 'might' have a NW though > "Morpher".
 
The WW have put us villagers in disarray by killing off our strongest analysts. They have bred distrust among us and played us well. Now, the question remains of how do we expose them? Is there a voting pattern, posts encouraging voting one way or another, or other things we aren't catching?
 
Southern Dad said:
The WW have put us villagers in disarray by killing off our strongest analysts. They have bred distrust among us and played us well. Now, the question remains of how do we expose them? Is there a voting pattern, posts encouraging voting one way or another, or other things we aren't catching?
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Seems like the wolves have played it so well that its hard to see any patterns.

Plus they killed most of our good analysists so we are playing the luck game.
 
Southern Dad said:
That's what they want us to think. We know the identity of one WW. Whar can we glen from his posts and votes?
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Moyank is suspected because of this. And I may very well be a huge fool when the theory that Tomorrow was infected before he put Pluto on the chopping block proves correct. I always have a hard time to read Tomorrow in general so his posts (especially the one where he outs himself) can be interpreted either way. What irks me most is this statement (QoS picked it up later):

Tomorrow said:
No real reason for the villagers to keep me around, since the only help I can provide is by voting - and no real reason for the wolves to infect me, since I don't have a skill to help their cause.
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Especially the first part - so yes, I think there is some indication he got infected before he used his power/outed himself but I really wonder why the ww should do it that early!? They wouldn't know he was the Executioner most likely (except for some power swapping and infecting afterwards - doubtful) so why infect him early Day2 where he gathered quite some votes? Why Day1 when all three 'prime suspects' were innocent (although you guys can't know that, but I do). Early infection Day2 makes most sense when one baddie was under pressure imo - and that would be Sythas since aggie is cleared in that scenario. But even aggie thinks Sythas innocent but Moyank guilty. that would imply that the WW infected Tomorrow purely as a scapegoat (without knowing he could save himself!) - not impossible of course but likely..dunno.
 
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DAY 4

WoodNUFC trudged into the common room to get his morning soy milk when he let out a small yelp at a corpse in the way. It was scepticalscribe, and she had a note pinned to her.

-aggie- heard the yelp and came into the room. He looked down at scepticalscribe, frowned, and began reading the note.

'THIS LADY NOT NICE. SHE MAKE ME OWN GRANDPA. NOW HAZ CHROMSOMAL ABNORMALTEEZ, AM CROSS EYED AND LEFT BUTT CHEEK QUIVERS WHEN HUMIDITY IS HIGH. NOW SHE DEAD.

THX, BAD GAIZ'

"Ugh, I need to sit down" WoodNUFC groaned.

"Well, ccccCONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE YOU'VE JUST WON YOURSELF A BRAND NEW COUCH!"

Festive music played from no where in particular and WoodNUFC found a couch directly behind him, which he couldn't resist sitting on, despite being annoyed.

"How do you like that, huh" said -aggie-. "Actually, you've got really great taste WoodNUFC, this is a fantastic couch!"

"Oh, you like it that much do you?" WoodNUFC. "WHOSE YOUR GOD NOW!?"

Clearly, the couch had been made his god. The rest of the heroes found -aggie- with his nose firmly pressed in between the cushions, inhaling deeply and rhythmically whimpering between each breath.

It is now DAY 4, and scepticalscribe a really swell good guy hero lady, had been killed. Deadline is 8AM PDT (just under 24 hours from now). Majority is 6.
 
chrmjenkins said:
b]scepticalscribe[/b] a really swell good guy hero lady, had been killed
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Dammit again. I wasn't free of doubts regarding our heroine ss but no need for this kind of clearance. Fare well. Maybe you're better off now, who knows.

And lol, werewolves always leaving me be because I entertain them with my nonsense.
 
Well, well, well. I cannot say that this is entirely unexpected. Just, a bit abrupt.

And the final insult: a poorly penned note - ghastly grammar and atrocious spelling are always an egregious offence against language, which, were I still in the Land of the Living, I would surely take stern steps to address……- this is entirely to be expected from the unspeakable illiterates who have so foully done me in….

Parting is such sweet sorrow, etc, etc.

Well, what else can I say? Fare thee well, comrades, heroes and heroines, and do please attempt to put your heads together to……..solve this sordid matter….
 
twietee said:
No, we did not. He could have been:

a)
Alpha
Kami
3.WW

b)
Infected Executioner
Infected but not the Executioner

c)
Morpher who went baddie

Some scenarios are definitely much more likely than others but until the gravedigger (or Seer) comes out with more info we can't say anything for sure. Which really is a problem imo, since it a) seemingly divides our team and b) doesn't help clearing (as in 100%) at least SD and aggie. I personally think he got infected after Pluto got lynched but there is no proof of course.

That said, worst case now is 3 WW (+ eventually even the Morpher) including the Die-Hard and the Maniac. That means we lose 2 extra villagers because of the Kami and Maniac and have one extra lynching to do because of the die-hard meaning we lose one extra villager at the night in between. We wouldn't even know if Bruce "Leecher" Willis really is a baddie for sure of course..:rolleyes:

I admit feeling utterly lost, this definitely is my worst game so far. A bit like Day1 voting except that if we don't get it right this time it looks like Game Over.

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The circumstance that the only WW got caught so far via personal vendetta and not even really game related (well that's how it looks at least) tells a lot.
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ughh....we have nothing to go off really?

aggie and southern dad are the only really cleared right? but then with infection and the thousand special skills, who knows?
 
Miss you, SS. :(

I won't be able to check in much for the rest of the day.

I think I have a strong feel for who are definitely not baddies, but I don't have a good feel for who of the remaining lot are the guilty parties. With that, I'm going to maintain my vote from last round for Sythas.
 
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