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WWDC 2006 Expectations

zoran said:
How can we get a hold of that keynote that Macrummors said will cover?
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The main page transforms, via dark magic, into a of constantly updated text portal.

Legend has it that one MR member gets sucked into the swirling portal of dark magic and is trapped in a parallel universe for eternity.
This happens once per keynote.
 
i am happy that iPods "aren't expected" at WWDC, it doesn't seem the right place. We need emphasis on computers and software for them, not redesigned (or just updated) music players. xServe, Mac Pros, and hopefully redesigned exteriors of MacBook Pros, as well as lots of Leopard showing is what i hope for 🙂
 
30" too big?

SLCentral said:
Why is everyone so convinced that there will be significant updates to the Cinema Displays? Remember how long the non-Alu plastic displays were out? It must have been five years, while the Alu displays have been out for less then two years.

I can't see Apple making a bigger screen then 30" for desktop use. And if they were to, it would be for a multimedia center type thing, which not only is unlikely, but would never be released at WWDC. As a 30" display owner, theres no way a screen larger then 30" would be a feasible desktop display. Besides, anything larger then 30" is just too niche of a market.

Regarding a built-in iSight, I think the Pro market is just the wrong market for that. Apple has to be aware of its market, and b/c of security reasons, cameras just aren't feasible at this point.

Hell, who knows, I'm probably 100% wrong 😛.

Edit: Perhaps Apple will just bump the display to be HDCP compliant. HDMI is pretty much the same as DVI, for everyone who doesn't know 😉.
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I agree with you that the 30" display is big. I disagree with you about any larger display as being too big. It may be for you but not for others. When I first starting using my 30" display besides my 23" display I thought it was big. Using it with my 17" PowerBook even makes it seem bigger. But the only thing that could hold me back from purchasing a larger display would be the need of purchasing a new computer to be able to use 2 larger screens at the same time. My 17" PowerBook can only use one. My MDD PowerMac can only use one. But that is really a different question.

Many people seem to have tunnel vision when they use their computers & are or at least think they are happy with one 15" display. Others can see the need & usefulness of a larger display. At least you use a 30". But if Apple would have come out with a 32", 35" or larger display instead would you have purchased it the same as you did your 30" model? Then it would take a 40" or 45" display to be too larger.

With DualLink only able to support 3840 X 2400 & Single Link only able to support up to 1920 X 1200, there will be a natural size limitation until one of the new systems come around. The need probably isn't there yet, but a couple more size and/or reolution increases would change all of that.

How long do you think it will be before someone else says that his 45" display is all the larger anyone would ever need, so why make one larger? Whan I sold computers many thought that the 17" CRT was too larger, why go larger than 15"?

Bill the TaxMan
 
What isn't new?

This is what I think:


-Financial report
-Update report of Macs using Intel processors
-Update report of universal applications
-Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) preview


One more thing......

-Mac Pro (Intel powered PowerMac) announced. Will ship with Woodcrest. Will ship early-mid September.

-(Very slim chance of announcement) Intel powered Xserve
 
WWDC2006 video coverage? Apple Will Post SteveNote QT Stream By 6PM, Probably Sooner

zoran said:
How can we get a hold of that keynote that Macrummors said will cover?
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If history is any reliable bellwether, Apple Will Post a QT Video Stream of the entire SteveNote By 6PM, Probably Sooner. 🙂
 
heisetax said:
I agree with you that the 30" display is big. I disagree with you about any larger display as being too big. It may be for you but not for others. When I first starting using my 30" display besides my 23" display I thought it was big. Using it with my 17" PowerBook even makes it seem bigger. But the only thing that could hold me back from purchasing a larger display would be the need of purchasing a new computer to be able to use 2 larger screens at the same time. My 17" PowerBook can only use one. My MDD PowerMac can only use one. But that is really a different question.

Many people seem to have tunnel vision when they use their computers & are or at least think they are happy with one 15" display. Others can see the need & usefulness of a larger display. At least you use a 30". But if Apple would have come out with a 32", 35" or larger display instead would you have purchased it the same as you did your 30" model? Then it would take a 40" or 45" display to be too larger.

With DualLink only able to support 3840 X 2400 & Single Link only able to support up to 1920 X 1200, there will be a natural size limitation until one of the new systems come around. The need probably isn't there yet, but a couple more size and/or reolution increases would change all of that.

How long do you think it will be before someone else says that his 45" display is all the larger anyone would ever need, so why make one larger? Whan I sold computers many thought that the 17" CRT was too larger, why go larger than 15"?

Bill the TaxMan
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I completely get what you're saying. After using my 30" for a little over a year on a daily basis, when using any other system, it's VERY tough. And even when I am using my 30", I often crave even more real estate, especially when working with digital photos, but even when I'm just surfing the web.

But, at this point in time (2006), I think a 40"+ screen is just simply too large for the average deskspace. Perhaps there's a place for them in production studios, etc., but even with that market, which is already limited, cost is just too big of a factor. To make a panel @ 40" with a resolution of 3840x2400, or even smaller, would be ASTRONOMICAL. We're talking at least $6K for each display, and the power needed to run that doesn't yet exist. Even Quad-SLI on PC's are having trouble running games at native res. Imagine Motion (since we all know OS X isn't a gaming platform) at 3840x2400? The power just isn't there yet.

Now, I agree, larger screens are the way of the future. But I just don't think that future is here yet.

Then again, $20 says I'm wrong 🙂.
 
carlos700 said:
I do not expect MacBook Pros because Intel Core 2 Duo for notebooks has not been announced yet.
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It was introduced last Thursday along with the Core 2 Duo for desktop (Merom, Conroe, and Woodcrest).

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060727103453.shtml

I believe someone quote an Intel official saying consumors should see Core 2 Duo Mobile computers by late August.

My [selfish?] logic:
Aug 7 + shipping in two weeks = late August
 
Ummm.

carlos700 said:
I do not expect MacBook Pros because Intel Core 2 Duo for notebooks has not been announced yet.
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What rock have you been hiding under? Merom!

All I want to see is a new Macbook Pro at the WWDC, couldn't care less about the Mac Pro or Leopard
 
Leopard

Let's face it, it's going to be pretty hard to get excited about new computer hardware from Apple going forward, at least until we see something revolutionary in display technology (Apple has some pretty wild patents pending, so this is a possibility). The machines will get faster on a regular schedule now. I think boring and predictable from the perspective of processor power increases is a welcome change in the Mac user world.

Here is what I think would be exciting from Apple:
- A cell phone that doesn't suck. Oh, and include a PDA that can run Blackberry and Palm apps, but has a better core OS and interface. Oh, and make it an iPod when you flip it over.
- Leopard is a complete mystery. They've kept the lid very tight on any news about its features and improvements. I think we will see dramatic speed increases (benefits of the new kernel API introduced in Tiger plus Intel compilers). Please, Apple, beat MS to market with a resolution-independent interface. How about developer tools that make it far easier to migrate Windows apps to the Mac - that would be huge. I mean, the Mac OS is complete; you can make it lot more performant and tweak the interface a bit, but that's about all. Apple needs to focus on developers and developer mindshare like a laser beam. As Monkeyboy Ballmer says (sweating profusely and foaming at the mouth), "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"
- iChat AV for Windows. They have the best consumer video conferencing software out there. Get some traction for iChat before Vista comes on the scene and its solution becomes the standard.
- iCash - Intuit has not kept up with the Windows version of Quicken (haven't seen the 2007 version) and it's just a really weak app. How about some money management software that rocks? The home market is huge for Apple and that is one of the most important apps for adult home users.
- .Mac is weak. Sorry, it just is. It seems like there is so much more they could do.
 
damienvfx said:
What rock have you been hiding under? Merom!

All I want to see is a new Macbook Pro at the WWDC, couldn't care less about the Mac Pro or Leopard
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Go to Intel's website. You will notice they only mention the Intel Core 2 Duo as a desktop processor —not a mobile processor. Merom is not officially announced or it would be listed on their website.
 
ChickenSwartz said:
It was introduced last Thursday along with the Core 2 Duo for desktop (Merom, Conroe, and Woodcrest).

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060727103453.shtml

I believe someone quote an Intel official saying consumors should see Core 2 Duo Mobile computers by late August.

My [selfish?] logic:
Aug 7 + shipping in two weeks = late August
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I just do not see any mention of it on Intel's site. Desktop Core 2 Duos were announced 27 July.
 
carlos700 said:
Go to Intel's website. You will notice they only mention the Intel Core 2 Duo as a desktop processor —not a mobile processor. Merom is not officially announced or it would be listed on their website.
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http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060727comp.htm

"Intel Corporation today unveiled 10 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo and Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processors for consumer and business desktop and laptop PCs..."

The article later goes on to show the advantages of the Mobile PC Processor.

Merom is officially announced. They just don't say Merom.
 
ChickenSwartz said:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060727comp.htm

"Intel Corporation today unveiled 10 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo and Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processors for consumer and business desktop and laptop PCs..."

The article later goes on to show the advantages of the Mobile PC Processor.

Merom is officially announced. They just don't say Merom.
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You win that one. 😀 Although I cannot find the product page for laptop Core 2 Duos, only those for the desktop.
 
carlos700 said:
You win that one. 😀 Although I cannot find the product page for laptop Core 2 Duos, only those for the desktop.
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I think since they announced it so far a head of schedule, they might have those pages up and running yet.
 
ChickenSwartz said:
I think since they announced it so far a head of schedule, they might have those pages up and running yet.
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Ok, that makes sense. I guess Conroe is the only Core 2 Duo chip that's available today. (And Woodcrest but it's marketed as Xeon 5100)
 
Me1000 said:
does anyone else notice that on intels site, the core2 duo is only refered to in PC's????
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Commercial:
"I'm a Mac," cool guy.
"And I'm a PC," dorky guy.
"And I'm a PC too." cool guy

http://www.apple.com/getamac/ It's the Touché one.

You now have to start making distiction between PC meaning running Windows and PC meaning personal computer meaning for personal use. I believe the Apple II was the first to call itself a personal computers.
 
Intel's Website Is Always Stale Carlos

carlos700 said:
You win that one. 😀 Although I cannot find the product page for laptop Core 2 Duos, only those for the desktop.
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Carlos, Intel's web site is notoriously out of date. I have never been able to find any current info on their site. Do not expect to ever rely on the Intel website for up-to-date info about themselves. 🙄 It is an extremely poorly designed site.

ALL the Core 2 Duo Processors are shipping including Merom Carlos.
 
carlos700 said:
Ok, that makes sense. I guess Conroe is the only Core 2 Duo chip that's available today. (And Woodcrest but it's marketed as Xeon 5100)
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Merom is also availible today.

They have been shipping them for a few weeks now. Even a a few weeks before they were introduced. Intel just says that they won't show up on the market until the end of August.

I think Apple could have their out before that. If the rumors are ture, they just have to replace the Merom chip in the assembly line in place of Yonah. They already have the computers built (more or less).
 
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