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Summer doesn't begin until the Summer Solstice (longest day of the year) when the pole is at it's closest to the sun.

You do realize that the earth is actually further away from the sun in the northen hemisphere summertime? So, summer solstice is actually when the northern pole is farthest away from the sun. And secondly, summer solstice is absolutely in the middle of the summer, saying this is beginning of summer is like saying winter starts at Dec. 21st. And we all know that's wrong.
 
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Do those pills say Vista on them? ;)

Anyway, got the email too. My first thought was WWDC will bring Leopard out, after all it is still Spring, just. However, I do think that it will come out before then still, possibly even before the end of the month with :apple: tv, iLife and iWork all announced at the same time too. The portables and desktops have not been upgraded in a reasonably long time, to wait until June would mean some models have been out for over a year, others close to. February launch would enable them to slowly bring out new models of each, finishing with WWDC.

For WWDC 07, I'd like a mention of the iPhone starting to ship and Apple producing more multi-touch products. We have in development a product called MacSlab™, which is a rugged tablet Mac and comes in sizes from 7" to 23", (maybe 4 sizes in all). Medical apps and such need to be developed for our January launch.
 
You do realize that the earth is actually further away from the sun in the northen hemisphere summertime? So, summer solstice is actually when the northern pole is farthest away from the sun. And secondly, summer solstice is absolutely in the middle of the summer, saying this is beginning of summer is like saying winter starts at Dec. 21st. And we all know that's wrong.

No, winter does start in the northern hemisphere on December 21st. It gets colder from then because there's about a 4 week lag in the Earth's ability to heat up or cool down.

When the northern pole is farthest from the sun it's winter, there is no sunlight at the north pole when it's pointing away from the sun.

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Here's a picture - now the Earth's orientation stays the same so (for the northern hemisphere) in Summer the axis of rotation points towards the sun (as shown on the right) in Winter the axis points away from the sun. This occurs around the 21st of June for Summer and 21st December for Winter. The shortest day of the year is the start of winter and the earth continues to cool despite that days lengthening after the solstice due to the "lag time" between the Earth receiving the least amount of heat and it finally radiating that little heat out into space.

The summer and winter solstice mark the beginning of the season they refer to. They are the longest and the shortest days of the year respectively.

Sorry mate but apart from the Earth being farther from the sun in the northern summer - which is true but the pole still points towards the sun at this time and as such the north receives more sun than the south - you're incorrect. Seasons are a result of the tilt of the Earth's rotational axis, not the distance of the planet from the sun.
 
Do those pills say Vista on them? ;)
The portables and desktops have not been upgraded in a reasonably long time, to wait until June would mean some models have been out for over a year, others close to. February launch would enable them to slowly bring out new models of each, finishing with WWDC.

Not so; the entire line was updated between August and November of last year. That would mean 6-month refreshes, were they scheduled as such, would be coming between February and May -- perfect for the expected Leopard launch, sometime in March or April.

For WWDC 07, I'd like a mention of the iPhone starting to ship and Apple producing more multi-touch products. We have in development a product called MacSlab™, which is a rugged tablet Mac and comes in sizes from 7" to 23", (maybe 4 sizes in all). Medical apps and such need to be developed for our January launch.

Uh.. huh...
 
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In my opinion Apple should start very soon to sell its hardware with Leopard or, at least, with Tiger PLUS a free upgrade to Leopard, if it's to belaunched in June.

Otherwise Apple will loose too many sales. I will not buy a new Mac mini - even if a new version comes out next week - if I don't get Leopard with it or, at least, if I don't have a free upgrade to Leopard.

Would you buy a new hardware knowing that the new software will be released in few weeks/months?

This means, in terms of maktering: either Leopard released sooner than June or Leopard released in June with free upgrades in the meanwhile. Otherwise: no hardware sales for the next 4 months, and I don't think that Apple (like any other company) could afford that.

But, apart from this easy marketing stuff... let's try to think different: in June Jobs announces that Leopard will retail for $ 199, will include ILife'07 and... will boot on any intel-based PC!!!

Bye Bye Vistaaaa!!

Let's try again to conquer the world, this time starting from the software.
 
In my opinion Apple should start very soon to sell its hardware with Leopard or, at least, with Tiger PLUS a free upgrade to Leopard, if it's to belaunched in June.

Otherwise Apple will loose too many sales. I will not buy a new Mac mini - even if a new version comes out next week - if I don't get Leopard with it or, at least, if I don't have a free upgrade to Leopard.

Would you buy a new hardware knowing that the new software will be released in few weeks/months?

This means, in terms of maktering: either Leopard released sooner than June or Leopard released in June with free upgrades in the meanwhile. Otherwise: no hardware sales for the next 4 months, and I don't think that Apple (like any other company) could afford that.

But, apart from this easy marketing stuff... let's try to think different: in June Jobs announces that Leopard will retail for $ 199, will include ILife'07 and... will boot on any intel-based PC!!!

Bye Bye Vistaaaa!!

Let's try again to conquer the world, this time starting from the software.

2 Weeks.

The last two OSX releases have seen a 2 week gap between the announcement of the shipping date and the OS going on sale. Macs bought within this two week period were eligible for a free upgrade to the new version.

Anything prior to the shipping announcement were not eligible.
 
No, winter does start in the northern hemisphere on December 21st. It gets colder from then because there's about a 4 week lag in the Earth's ability to heat up or cool down.

When the northern pole is farthest from the sun it's winter, there is no sunlight at the north pole when it's pointing away from the sun.

You forget the fact that earths orbit is slightly elliptical, and at the northern hemisphere summer the earth IS further away from the sun.

Orbits were first analyzed mathematically by Johannes Kepler who formulated his results in his three laws of planetary motion. First, he found that the orbits of the planets in our solar system are elliptical, not circular (or epicyclic), as had previously been believed, and that the sun is not located at the center of the orbits, but rather at one focus. (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_Orbit)

Secondly, earths weather differs from place to place. However, I'll accept that I was wrong about the term "summer". However, the concept is colored by cultures other than my own. Here in Iceland first day of summer is in the end of April, marking a moment from which the weather gets better week by week, and climaxing around summer solstice.

EDIT: I completed reading your reply and found that I am telling you nothing new. However, the earth is further away than so that the earths tilt would make the northern pole closer to the sun than at winter. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of kilometers differences....not just hundreds.
 
What is more interesting is the iCal icon in the dock doesn't have a triangle under it, even though the image shows it running. i know it could have easily been PSed with the same basic desktop as a background. But that seems to be a lack of attention to detail.
Good observation, bloopers are always interesting.
 
Then as the pole starts to swing away from the sun the days get shorter until the orientation of the poles is at a tangent to our orbit - these are the vernal/autumnal equinoxes when the length of daylight and night is exactly the same.

I hate to be a total nerd but the "orientation of the poles," or as we physicists call it, the "axis," is ALWAYS at tangent to the orbit, three-dimensionally (Tangent means it touches the line drawn by the orbit in exactly one point).

What you meant to say was that the projection of the axis onto the two-dimensional plane of the orbit is tangent to the orbit.

*removes thick-rimmed glasses and wipes forehead*

whew.

-Clive
 
You forget the fact that earths orbit is slightly elliptical, and at the northern hemisphere summer the earth IS further away from the sun.



Secondly, earths weather differs from place to place. However, I'll accept that I was wrong about the term "summer". However, the concept is colored by cultures other than my own. Here in Iceland first day of summer is in the end of April, marking a moment from which the weather gets better week by week, and climaxing around summer solstice.

EDIT: I completed reading your reply and found that I am telling you nothing new. However, the earth is further away than so that the earths tilt would make the northern pole closer to the sun than at winter. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of kilometers differences....not just hundreds.

Ah. Fair enough about the cultural differences in what constitutes the start of the season. I was referring to meteorological seasons which begin on either an equinox or a solstice. They're the most commonly used definition but if your culture has a different tradition then that's cool.

Yes the Earth does vary in it's distance from the sun (spent a lot of time studying this stuff in Uni) but the seasons are purely due to the tilt of the Earth not its distance from the sun as a whole. The pole may be physically closer in Winter but it's pointing away from the sun - it gets no sunlight and thus no heat ie. Winter.

It's all about the tilt.

I hate to be a total nerd but the "orientation of the poles," or as we physicists call it, the "axis," is ALWAYS at tangent to the orbit, three-dimensionally (Tangent means it touches the line drawn by the orbit in exactly one point).

What you meant to say was that the projection of the axis onto the two-dimensional plane of the orbit is tangent to the orbit.

*removes thick-rimmed glasses and wipes forehead*

whew.

-Clive

Well der, Mr. Pedantic. :p ;)

Oh, your biro is leaking into your pocket protector.
 
Sgt. Pepper's

I firmly believe that 'Save The Date' is in reference to Apple Inc and Apple Corps. It's really ironic that this week Apple Inc announced that the two Apple's have put their difference aside, in one way or another. (so obviously something is going to happen next, right?) Ok... go back to January 9, 2007 Macworld Conference & Expo... everyone noticed how Steve kept showing the Sgt. Peppers album. (which was interesting).
Now consider this... June 2007 will be the 40 year anniversary of the Release of 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'
Now... suddently this week Apple is teasing us with 'Save the Day'.. which happens to be the same month that Sgt. Peppers was released 40 years ago.

I could be wrong... but i think something (maybe not the entire event) will deal with Apple(s) and Sgt Peppers. Finally. 'Save the Day'

-my thoughts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band
 

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I hate to be a total nerd but the "orientation of the poles," or as we physicists call it, the "axis," is ALWAYS at tangent to the orbit, three-dimensionally (Tangent means it touches the line drawn by the orbit in exactly one point).

What you meant to say was that the projection of the axis onto the two-dimensional plane of the orbit is tangent to the orbit.

*removes thick-rimmed glasses and wipes forehead*

whew.

-Clive


Orbital precession means that the projection of the axis isn't tangent to the orbit.

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I firmly believe that 'Save The Date' is in reference to Apple Inc and Apple Corps. It's really ironic that this week Apple Inc announced that the two Apple's have put their difference aside, in one way or another. (so obviously something is going to happen next, right?) Ok... go back to January 9, 2007 Macworld Conference & Expo... everyone noticed how Steve kept showing the Sgt. Peppers album. (which was interesting).
Now consider this... June 2007 will be the 40 year anniversary of the Release of 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'
Now... suddently this week Apple is teasing us with 'Save the Day'.. which happens to be the same month that Sgt. Peppers was released 40 yeas ago.

I could be wrong... but i think something (maybe not the entire event) will deal with Apple(s) and Sgt Peppers. Finally. 'Save the Day'

-my thoughts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band

Sorry mate, WWDC is no place for a big iTunes/Beatles announcement. The World Wide Developers Conference is the biggest Apple nerd-fest of the
year. It's strictly for Apple software developers and professionals.

Anything that doesn't have "Pro" in the name is unlikely to get a mention in the Keynote.

We're talking a keynote full of words like "branch prediction" "pre-fetching" and "64bit address space."

The closest Sgt. Peppers might get to the WWDC is that it could be some of the pre and post show music played over the PA.
 
I think that (possibly fake) Feb 20th invite has something very interesting in common with this WWDC announcement: the emphasis on outer space. This announcement is just showing something similar to the Time Machine UI of course, but notice that it says something about "the Mac universe."

I am beginning to suspect that Apple, with the use of Core Animation technology, is beginning to work on a spatial (i. e. three-dimensional to some degree) UI. I'm not necessarily saying that'll be premiered during Leopard, but the Mac OS X Finder (drop shadows, Expose, etc.) has long been approaching a more spatial sense of how you interact with your windows. I don't think Leopard will have such a drastic interface redesign, but I may be wrong. Apple's certainly giving a lot of attention to the idea of outer space recently.
 
Sgt. Pepper's (continued)

if this was true (as i stated) why wouldn't Apple just release the Beatles stuff now (or why didn't they release it at the Super Bowl?) SIMPLE...
Paul McCartney is going through a major divorce RIGHT now, and his stupid wife is sueing him for everything he has. So... right now Paul McCartney is freezing all his incoming finances until everything is settled. (i actually read that recently) So... it would make sense for Apple to wait a few months. Plus... Apple can now focus back to AppleTV (to be shipped this month), and more importantly... Leopard.

-my thoughts.
 
IT'S A FAKE...i can't believe everyone believes this invite. :rolleyes: We all know that 10.5 will be out before June, right?!?!?!

Come on guys, pray with me!!!.....
 
IT'S A FAKE...i can't believe everyone believes this invite. We all know that 10.5 will be out before June, right?!?!?!

Come on guys, pray with me!!!.....

Eh? You mean the invite we (yes me too) all got through our Apple Developer Connection mailing list?

It's not a fake, most definitely not. It's not even in doubt, this is an Apple email send out to all those who have signed onto the Apple Developer Connection. I got mine this morning.

But yes, 10.5 will be out before June, why would you think otherwise?
 
Summer doesn't begin until the Summer Solstice (longest day of the year) when the pole is at it's closest to the sun.

This occurs in the northern hemisphere around the 3rd week of June and in the southern hemisphere where I am in the 3rd week of December.

So while it's convenient for us to think of the seasons starting and ending with the months the actual seasons don't quite behave the way we think.

Then as the pole starts to swing away from the sun the days get shorter until the orientation of the poles is at a tangent to our orbit - these are the vernal/autumnal equinoxes when the length of daylight and night is exactly the same. This occurs during the 3rd week of march for the northern spring/southern autumn and the 3rd week of september for the northern autumn/southern spring.

So yeah, now you know.

Every time I start thinking that I'm moderately cool, someone comes around and makes a post like that... in a forum I closely follow...and I realize that I'm just a loser trapped in some cool guys body.
 
Eh? You mean the invite we (yes me too) all got through our Apple Developer Connection mailing list?

It's not a fake, most definitely not. It's not even in doubt, this is an Apple email send out to all those who have signed onto the Apple Developer Connection. I got mine this morning.

But yes, 10.5 will be out before June, why would you think otherwise?

Chundles, I think your sarcasm detector needs re-calibrating.;)
 
Chundles, I think your sarcasm detector needs re-calibrating.;)

A scene from The Simpsons:

Lyndsey Nagle: Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Frink (Scientist): (With sarcasm detector) Are you kidding? This baby is off
the charts...... mm-hai.
Comic Book Guy: A sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention.
**Sarcasm detector explodes**
 
I think there will be a lot of unhappy people if Apple waits until WWDC to refresh the Mac Pros, among other things....

8 cores, new and BETTER video card options. I mean, come on already Apple.
 
There may well be a mention of the Beatles/iTunes at WWDC, but it'll probably be something like an iChat with Paul MacCartney saying that, since the april release of the Beatles entire backlist on iTunes, Sergeant Pepper is now the No.1 album in the UK again, forty years after it's initial release.

Then Ringo will join in with the Yellow Submarine cartoon going as his animated backdrop (y'all remember that from WWDC 06, right?), and say that "it's really, really fab!" before Paul and Ringo demonstrate GarageBand's new network (and time-delay compensation) international Jam feature. (i.e. you can collaborate on sessions live over the internet, and Garageband compensates for the time delay.)

The whole point being to demonstrate that Leopard is completely network transparent and you can share applications and files and screens and *everything* over an iChat session.
 
NBA Finals week

If the Heat go to the Finals again I will definitely be screwed because I have season tickets. NBA Finals are right around that time.
 
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