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I agree, but this WAS a developers conference.
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WWDC 2008 Rumor Wrapup: Winners and Losers
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I agree, but this WAS a developers conference.
Overall a WWDC that meets expectations. Everything else was overhyped and all the add-ons to a 3G that were projected, when you step back and look at it, just wouldn't seem possible this year. Take the new additions to the software line and enjoy. I'm selling my first gen to purchase a second. I have bids over the $299 for a 16GB 3G already, so I'm making money by upgrading.
I disagree, although that might be useless on a laptop I see potential in a clipboard style (tablet) taking off in the medical field. See interactive records in your own eyes? That could be huge!
It is more fun that way, isn't it? Its like Christmas (Happy Holidays, whatever...)
What do you mean "tethering"? Like a chain, or string to the iPhone?
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For serious graphic artists the use of a graphics tablet will still be very important. But I think touch screens are what is coming, and I don't think they will necessarily be Minority Report style like you describe.
I think before one can understand the usefulness of a touch-tablet, you have to rethink the contemporary concept of a desk. Once you change the idea of the desk, touch-screens make more and more sense.
What do you mean "tethering"? Like a chain, or string to the iPhone?
He means 'tethering,' in the sense of using an iPhone as a modem of sorts. Connect it to your MacBook Pro and use the iPhone's internet connection on your MBP.
The SDK previews were good and will continue to expand,
but the middle finger Apple/Steve and AT&T gave to potential customers was huge.
Price drop of iPhone = expensive AT&T plan = same crap, but more expensive.
Apple and AT&T are not sharing revenue? and we know this how? yeah, lets make ourselves feel better by saying they don't.
For those of us who can afford it, we shall continue to enjoy feeding the pig.
Things might change from now till June 11. but I wouldn't bet on it.
MWSF09_ Will we finally see the actual iPhone 2.0 and if we do, will AT&T screw us again? Yes! will Apple join them? I think you know the answer.
Can't wait to read any positive notes on WWDC08.
I'm happy, are you?
but the middle finger Apple/Steve and AT&T gave to potential customers was huge.
Price drop of iPhone = expensive AT&T plan = same crap, but more expensive.
Apple and AT&T are not sharing revenue? and we know this how? yeah, lets make ourselves feel better by saying they don't.
For those of us who can afford it, we shall continue to enjoy feeding the pig.
Things might change from now till June 11. but I wouldn't bet on it.
MWSF09_ Will we finally see the actual iPhone 2.0 and if we do, will AT&T screw us again? Yes! will Apple join them? I think you know the answer.
Can't wait to read any positive notes on WWDC08.
I'm happy, are you?
Macrumors, you guys and gals are neglecting an important segment of the report card! Scoring who correctly predicted what was released is just as important as scoring who correctly predicted what WASN'T released. For instance, Engadget did a great job debunking all the "faaaaaaaaaaake" iPhoto 3G photo rumors that were widely circulated.
I think It's AT&T more than Apple who are giving the middle finger to Apple.
Here in the UK, O2 have pretty good iPhone 3G deals.
The only thing I can see that could possibly prevent sales to the masses here is lack of MMS. Hardly anybody uses the front facing camera for video conferencing.
But to bring it back on topic, I think it was an okay 'show'. With all the hype a lot of people seemed to forget this was for developers, not a hundred product launches.
I agree that Steve JObs wasn't on stage long though - is he really that ill ?
Here in the UK, O2 have pretty good iPhone 3G deals.
The only thing I can see that could possibly prevent sales to the masses here is lack of MMS. Hardly anybody uses the front facing camera for video conferencing.
But to bring it back on topic, I think it was an okay 'show'. With all the hype a lot of people seemed to forget this was for developers, not a hundred product launches.
I agree that Steve JObs wasn't on stage long though - is he really that ill ?
This might be off-topic, but my "loser" vote goes to Steve for his geographic goof during the keynote. If you have access to the keynotes video, skip to 1:37:36 when Jobs details the European countries where the iPhone will soon be available. It appears that Steve thinks that Qatar - a Persian Gulf / Arab country - is located in Europe!
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Yes, but this isn't a site for a "full-out" product launch. Again, this is a developers conference, if you are so inclined for a product launch wait for MWSF. Apple usually tends to launch products at conferences, expos, media events and shows, but nothing close to what it launches on a yearly basis at MWSF.
Last I checked we were discussing iPhones - not computers. A computer is a stationed device when in use; it is not used "on the go" or in any other mobile setting. As opposed to constantly holding an iPhone, the current setup for a computer works because you're not engaged into the act of constantly holding a computer. Furthermore, there are no logistical issues as to where to place the camera on a computer; a computer is used by both hands as opposed to a mobile device (iPhone), which can be used in its entirety with either/both hand/s.
Expectations were high? Hm, maybe so - but given that Apple has been working on this technology for the past two years, I wouldn't think so (to what extent they are working on this remains to be seen).
I agree, patenting an idea is the "easy part" and making it work is difficult. But they patented the idea of multi-touch well before the iPhone. Just because a product is not present, does not mean that Apple is not working on said technology. Hypothetically, if multi-touch patents surfaced on the idea of touching a screen with multiple hand gestures as the primary method of input today (without the presence of the iPhone or any touch screen device), would you still be inclined to say the same, as in "oh multi-touch is just a fantasy idea and is not cost-effective."
Multi-touch may have been a fantasy idea at one point in time, but Apple worked on this idea to bring it to fruition. The same can be said with this photo sensor technology (again, we're not aware to what extent).
Placing a camera on either side of the front panel of the phone doesn't seem fool proof and is a bit cumbersome, as either hand may get in the way. Imagine a camera mounted on the left side - my left thumb could potentially get in the way and ruin the video conference (or vice versa). That reason alone -- the fact that the logistics of the camera would not be fool proof -- is why it seems un-Apple like (placing it in the center would do no good, as it would likely interfere with the audio housing of the phone).
still waiting...
... for a true replacement to the 12 inch PBG4. A Full spec 13 inch MBP would be ideal;An Aluminum MB would be a good start...
... for a true replacement to the 12 inch PBG4. A Full spec 13 inch MBP would be ideal;An Aluminum MB would be a good start...
This might be off-topic, but my "loser" vote goes to Steve for his geographic goof during the keynote. If you have access to the keynotes video, skip to 1:37:36 when Jobs details the European countries where the iPhone will soon be available. It appears that Steve thinks that Qatar - a Persian Gulf / Arab country - is located in Europe!
And the last I checked, Macao and Hong Kong are NOT countries but part of China. So that makes a total country count of 69.
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This might be off-topic, but my "loser" vote goes to Steve for his geographic goof during the keynote. If you have access to the keynotes video, skip to 1:37:36 when Jobs details the European countries where the iPhone will soon be available. It appears that Steve thinks that Qatar - a Persian Gulf / Arab country - is located in Europe!
Haha, bless. Good spot.
Autumn, have you never watched American cartoons?
I'd like the increased size too; little disappointed that they didn't raise the capacities from the first-gen, particularly with everyone buying and installing all those third-party apps.
Although it is unlikely, it is probably the most likely of any theoretical change in specs between WWDC and July 11, since it's a simple component substitution. However, since they're in the process of manufacturing them (or have already), yeah, it seems unlikely, unless they've only made the 16GBs and decide to make 32s instead of 8s.
Fingers crossed for a capacity upgrade early in the product's lifecycle.
I'd prefer to have the screen right on my keyboard.
Granted, with the various Apple patents for a 3d mouse, stereoscopic display, and head-mounted display, it could get interesting, soon.
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Well it is a World Wide Developers Conference, so in theory, any hardware announcements are really a bonus. There was a lot of emphasis on the iPhone SDK and App Store; it just got over shadowed by the excitement for hardware.
A tablet device some day, I think so. Especially if it has software to control my devices, and when it's not in use I can put it in a stand which makes it a wireless digital picture frame, say 8 in x 10 in (20 cm x 25 cm).
It is funny though, that so many of us get so disappointed or even frustrated when the rumors are just that, rumors. Hey I fell into that trap with the front facing camera for video conferencing Apple may have seeded this pre-show rumor excitement, but we (the community) really fuel it.
Well it is a World Wide Developers Conference, so in theory, any hardware announcements are really a bonus. There was a lot of emphasis on the iPhone SDK and App Store; it just got over shadowed by the excitement for hardware.
A tablet device some day, I think so. Especially if it has software to control my devices, and when it's not in use I can put it in a stand which makes it a wireless digital picture frame, say 8 in x 10 in (20 cm x 25 cm).
It is funny though, that so many of us get so disappointed or even frustrated when the rumors are just that, rumors. Hey I fell into that trap with the front facing camera for video conferencing
Apple may have seeded this pre-show rumor excitement, but we (the community) really fuel it.This might be off-topic, but my "loser" vote goes to Steve for his geographic goof during the keynote. If you have access to the keynotes video, skip to 1:37:36 when Jobs details the European countries where the iPhone will soon be available. It appears that Steve thinks that Qatar - a Persian Gulf / Arab country - is located in Europe!
good point. but, well, I guess they wanted to list it somewhere and as they left out Africa and Western Asia in their tables the might have felt like it's rather Europe than Eastern Asia. Anyways.
How come that they removed the sound from the keynote broadcast during the part where they red-dye half of the world (political?
)? When first watching it on June 09th there was still music added to it. There is no proof Apple is working on it at all. Most things that Apple patents don't even end up in products.
Apple did not invent multitouch, even then, none of their multitouch patents seemed unrealistic. Multitouch hardware was already a solved problem that didn't get much commercial use yet, except from a company that Apple later bought. Touch screen technology is extremely easy in comparison to trying to fab an array of photosensors into an LCD or other kind of flat display.
I don't think this scenario would make it worth putting an array of black dots into the screen, which is basically what the Apple patents show. It too is not a very good compromise, especially for those that don't want to do video conferencing.
Autumn, have you never watched American cartoons?
I grew up watching them, and I don't remember that being in any cartoon.