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ive been waiting for this iphone upgrade for like 9 months. dont get me wrong i am very VERY excited for lion and iOS 5 but an iphone 5 is what i need. comon apple im ready to give you all my money!
 
This news is sick! In just 12 hours? DAMN!

I would buy the no new iPhone rumor because OS X Lion is gonna be a game changer from what I've been reading, so they will need to focus and give a 100% to Lion. However, that doesn't mean they won't preview iOS 5, for a fall release :)
 
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ArchaicRevival said:
This news is sick! In just 12 hours? DAMN!

I would buy the no new iPhone rumor because OS X Lion is gonna be a game changer from what I've been reading, so they will need to focus and give a 100% to Lion. However, that doesn't mean they won't preview iOS 5, for a fall release :)

if they preview iOS 5 for a fall release. can we safely assume that the iphone 5 will be released along with it?
 
Apple is at the core a software company.

I'm not sure many would agree with you on that. Apple has always been a hardware company. Just because their software drives their hardware doesn't mean they are software focused. If they were primarily a software company, they would have gone the way of Microsoft and put out MacOS to run on any generic PC box. But we all know their take on that. Just to drive my point home, when was the last time Apple released a piece of software that people went nuts about and stood in lines for hours to get?
 
Wow, that was fast. At this rate, next year should sell out within an hour. I think if you wanted to go, you needed to get your bosses approval before it was announced.
 
Apple is at the core a software company.
Go read their SEC filings.

They make money selling hardware.

An operating system is a big complicated program that lets other big complicated programs co-exist peacefully on the same system. However, Apple does not generate much revenue from software sales. If they did, it would be a separate line item in their financials and they would probably need to disclose more information about software sales, since such a large part of the increase in shareholder value would be dependent on it.

Same deal with iTunes Store sales, App Store revenue, MobileMe subscriptions, etc. Not a major part of their bottom line. Apple uses software and content to drive sales of their high-margin hardware.
 
Didn't have time to get the PO approved before it sold out.... really disappointed. anyone know if you can get on a wait list?
 
I'm not sure many would agree with you on that. Apple has always been a hardware company. Just because their software drives their hardware doesn't mean they are software focused. If they were primarily a software company, they would have gone the way of Microsoft and put out MacOS to run on any generic PC box. But we all know their take on that. Just to drive my point home, when was the last time Apple released a piece of software that people went nuts about and stood in lines for hours to get?

There's an old saying, " What good is the hardware without the software?" ;)
 
What's with the focus on 'sold out'? Simply limit your passes well below the projected numbers of participants, and there you go, sold out. It's just a math game and a marketing ploy.
 
Excellent! I'll plan on saving a few bucks then to upgrade.

Thanks for the info.

Yes, they're a reasonable price, but keep in mind it's not going to be anywhere near $30.

If it's inline with previous OS X updates (besides snow leopard, which was a very special case of mostly under-the-hood improvements with fewer improvements that the user would notice), the it will be probably be around $100.
 
Apple is at the core a software company.

No, Apple is a hardware company

Both of you are wrong.

Apple is a vertical systems integrator and vendor. They sell an vertically integrated solution that includes both software and hardware. They've been like this since the 70s, back when it was in-style.

These days, these types of vendors are rare. IBM still is with some POWER machines running AIX, HP has their Itanium/HP-UX systems and of course Oracle and the SPARC/Solaris boxes, but of course, these are mostly big-Iron Unix solutions, which is about the only place you'll find vertical solutions anymore.

Apple probably is the last of the consumer vendors doing vertical integration.
 
I would rather Apple do iPhone5 right then be pressured to release it at the typical release cycle.

Give me 4" screen, NFC, dual core A9 and a gig of ram. LTE is not a huge deal since it will probably not be deployed widespread.
 
But how many tickets were actually for sale? 3000? 5000? 10,000? Remember that the conference center needs to house all the Apple employees, the contractors, and of course all the booths/rooms.

I would imagine that Apple purposely plans events (timing as well as location) that WILL sell out. Apple doesn't want to hold an event where only 50% of the conference hall is filled.

Selling out in 12 hours may not be all that it's cracked up to be. But in theory if 100% of the attendees are truly developers, I could see a fast sellout.
 
Both of you are wrong.

Apple is a vertical systems integrator and vendor. They sell an vertically integrated solution that includes both software and hardware. They've been like this since the 70s, back when it was in-style.

These days, these types of vendors are rare. IBM still is with some POWER machines running AIX, HP has their Itanium/HP-UX systems and of course Oracle and the SPARC/Solaris boxes, but of course, these are mostly big-Iron Unix solutions, which is about the only place you'll find vertical solutions anymore.

Apple probably is the last of the consumer vendors doing vertical integration.

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner! The correct answer is: Apple is an all-in-one company, integrating both hardware and software.
 
What's with the focus on 'sold out'? Simply limit your passes well below the projected numbers of participants, and there you go, sold out. It's just a math game and a marketing ploy.
It's neither a math game nor marketing ploy.

Apple is not artificially limiting the number of attendees. It's a facilities issue. They are at maximum capacity for this venue. It's not like they can simply print out 5000 more badges. The fire marshal would shut the place down.

That's why local television coverage of professional sports have their blackouts lifted after a sellout. Not everyone who wants to watch can fit in the stadium/arena.
 
I'm not sure many would agree with you on that. Apple has always been a hardware company. Just because their software drives their hardware doesn't mean they are software focused. If they were primarily a software company, they would have gone the way of Microsoft and put out MacOS to run on any generic PC box. But we all know their take on that. Just to drive my point home, when was the last time Apple released a piece of software that people went nuts about and stood in lines for hours to get?

Indeed they definitely are a hardware company, that's where all their profit comes from. I think to answer your rhetorical question, 'Leopard', from what I've heard.
 
This sucks. I was going to buy my ticket when I got home from work. By the time I got home, it was already sold out.

You and a few other thousand engineers. What hasn't been said is how many tickets were sold. I would be curious to see if Apple limited the amount of tickets the first round to get hype and "additional tickets" will go on sale later this week.
 
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