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Yes, reserved now.

However look 2 years out. If back in the day MacWorld Expo could get North and South then Apple should not have a problem with getting 2 or more of the building as well.

Two years ago WWDC took weeks to sell out. Why would Apple want to spend a ton more to reserve a much larger facility at that slow rate?

I wonder if these events will start doing something to limit scalping? What could they do?
 
So the reason apple charges more is because??? Seems like google is a better deal.

Not like that matters, if you develop for OSX, iOS or both... Then the sky high price might be worth it.

It is 5 days and not 2? Apple has more sessions?
 
The difference being:
1. 1/3 the price at $450.
2. Google gives all attendees an Android phone.
3. A scalper bought a huge portion of the tickets to resell. Apple does not let you transfer tickets. You must check-in at the registration desk with government issued ID (4th year attending).

Another big reason is Google had pre-announced Google I/O with pre-registration active for over a week. This is important if you need to work out schedules at work and such. With Apple, you had 1day to work that out. For Google I/O, you had over a week to decide if the schedule worked for you.
 
You don't get final versions of the software they release in the dev program.

The Gold master will not get software updates post release date.

you are able to get access to developer builds of each software update and the GM of each of those
 
The 3GS was quite a bump from the 3G. Anyone thinking/claiming otherwise has never owned a 3GS.

An iPhone "4S" would still be quite an upgrade over the iPhone 4, even if it is just more ram and an A5 chip (with a much better SGX543-MP2 GPU). And it would still very much be the iPhone 5 as in 5th Generation iPhone. Just like the iPhone 3GS was the 3rd generation iPhone to the iPhone 3G's 2nd generation status.

How about an "iPhone 4G S"? It is 4G for "HSPA+/LTE" and "S" for "Speed". That would ge consistent with the "iPhone 3G", and "iPhone 3G S" names.
 
3. A scalper bought a huge portion of the tickets to resell. Apple does not let you transfer tickets. You must check-in at the registration desk with government issued ID (4th year attending).

To be fair, you can transfer WWDC tickets before they're activated. There are some on eBay right now. Otherwise, a company couldn't buy them for more than one employee.
 
So the reason apple charges more is because??? Seems like google is a better deal.

1. Professional conferences cost that much.
2. Apple sends 1000 of their engineers that you can talk with. Who is Google sending? How accessible are they?
3. WWDC is more days.

Number 2 above is one of the reasons that it would be difficult to move to a larger venue. It might accommodate more people, but the real value is getting to talk with Apple engineers and ask questions. If they made the venue larger, your chances of getting to talk with them becomes slim. It's a tough problem to solve.
 
1. Professional conferences cost that much.
2. Apple sends 1000 of their engineers that you can talk with. Who is Google sending? How accessible are they?
3. WWDC is more days.

Number 2 above is one of the reasons that it would be difficult to move to a larger venue. It might accommodate more people, but the real value is getting to talk with Apple engineers and ask questions. If they made the venue larger, your chances of getting to talk with them becomes slim. It's a tough problem to solve.

It is Apple. Number 2 is not the reason. Chances are moving it to another venue would cost more money which means less profit.
Google is more than likely just trying to cover cost. Apple is going to try to make a profit.
 
Apple is not even covering costs.

It is Apple. Number 2 is not the reason. Chances are moving it to another venue would cost more money which means less profit.
Google is more than likely just trying to cover cost. Apple is going to try to make a profit.

Apple has greater than 7 million in man hour costs alone.
 
It's my guess that many here seriously think WWDC is just a show for Apple to give a keynote and call it a day.

That is all it is for most people. I barely know what WWDC is, I just know I usually end up watching a keynote online from it.
 
That is all it is for most people. I barely know what WWDC is, I just know I usually end up watching a keynote online from it.

Back in the day, Apple participated in user conferences called MacWorld. There was an winter one in San Francisco, and a summer/late summer one on the east coast. There also was a late spring developer conference in San Francisco - but that was mostly irrelevant if you weren't an Apple OSX developer.

Life was good.

But, the turtle-necked overlord got into a hissy-fit with the company that was organizing the conferences.

The summer MacWorld was cancelled for petty reasons. Soon after, Apple withdrew from the winter conference as well.

So, today, the only venue that Apple has control over is the late spring developer conference - which they've co-opted to trumpet whatever the PR department needs at the time.
 
No new hardware, do I care? Nope.

Having used and invested in Apple since the Mac Classic via IIci, LC475 etc and having lived (and worked) with Apple through the Dark Days (Amelio et al), I'm always pleased/relieved that Apple are stil around! That this Apple keeps ahead of the curve is important, but their kit lasts which, to someone who uses their Macs every day is one of the mos important aspects.

I don't need, nor can afford, to be at the head of the queue every time a new bit of kit is bequeathed to us by the benighted Jobs/Ive axis! Sure I love it when a new shiny thing appears on stage, and follow the rumours closely, so what if the iPhone is September or 2012.

I'm pretty sure that the revenue from iOS devices helps Apple keep the Mac flag flying high, for that reason I like the hype and expectation that is drummed up. Anything which keeps Apple in the computer game I'm all for.

And yes I have an iPhone (3GS), and yes I will buy the next iPhone when it arrives, and yes I'll probably stick with that one for another two years. One thing's for certain, as long as Apple keep computing close to their heart (rather than their wallet) I'll keep the faith.


Oh yeah, a lyric came to mind (as it often does):
"Pump it up until you can feel it
Pump it up when you don't really need it
"
Elvis Costello & The Attractions, 'Pump it Up', from 'This Year's Model'.
 
WWDC has always been a software conference, the hardware you see on the 1st day are for the consumers (and fanboys), the remaining days are always software focused ... Thats why its from 6th-10th :rolleyes: ... don't get it twisted, not every developer desires the new releases of hardware at every wwdc.

Apple is at the core a software company.

Yea ok. The new iPhone is the highlight EVERY year, and will be again this year. Fanboy my ass, it's the highlight of the event, everyone knows it, and if wwdc comes and goes without even of mention of new iPhone hardware, APPL is going to take a dive.
 
Sold out in 8 hours??? What on earth is this? A Hannah Montana concert? Dang it, I was gonna go too :cool:

I doubt if Hannah Montana could fit this in her schedule. The sexual frustration of the audience she would feel going on stage at WWDC would keep her from singing.
 
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Vegas Night club
 
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I think people who say that no new iphone 5 is going to be announced are people who just got a Verizon iPhone and are on contract and so they hope that no new iPhone comes out.

Or we can objectively look at Apple's past product release history and elaborate from that.
 
Buying tickets from eBay?

Does anyone have any previous experience of buying WWDC tickets from eBay?

If I can find a reasonably-priced one then I might go for it, but I don't want to get turned away at the door :(
 
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