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WWDC 2013 Rumor Roundup: iOS 7, OS X 10.9, iRadio, and New Macs

Not sure how people are getting so excited over iOS 7, considering most of the rumours about it relate to flatter icons/backgrounds.

That said, I'm very, very interested in the Mac Pro despite knowing virtually nothing about it. Could be my first desktop Mac purchase in ~10 years. Giggity!
 
The biggest feature I hope from iOS, and OS X as well for that matter, is reducing RAM usage, an OS that uses twice as much ram as it's competitors for no apparent reason, is wasteful and kind of annoying.
 
i can't wait to see what Apple has in store for us Monday. I am holding out for the new iPhone to be released and hopefully iOS 7 won't disappoint.
 
What is the appeal of iRadio?

Unfortunately I don't understand the appeal of iRadio, nor do I understand the millions of dollars Apple is pumping into it.

In case Apple itself has forgotten, iTunes has had digital radio stations since 2001. I just opened it up to remind myself. Yep, it looks and functions pretty much the way it did 12 years ago.

While I realize the new iRadio will probably be more robust and have enhanced features, it doesn't change the fact that internet radio is a trend from over a decade ago.

Why is nobody trying to compete with Spotify? That is the future of music. Pick any album from any artist, and listen to the whole thing. You can do the free, ad-based option, which gives you X amount of free streaming per month. Or you can upgrade for unlimited streaming, like I do, and really go nuts with it.
 
I actually wish Apple would go back to a 2-year cycle for Mac OS X.

The reason is I maintain a lab full of Macs for a university, and having to do a yearly upgrade on all the machines is a pain in the arse. Hell, 10.8 didn't even bring much new stuff to the table; I'd rather wait two years and actually get significant updates than do minor updates every year.

The desktop/laptop computing world is very mature and tends to move slower than mobile, overall. OS update frequency should reflect this.
 
till213 said:
You call a few flat icons, the deskeuomorphicification (yes! you read it here first!) and the integration of User Land applications (Siri, Apple Maps) "a new operating system"?

OpenGL 4, iSCSI, a future proof file system, a Mac Pro - or it did not happen, Apple! :mad:
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I agree, HFS+ is god damn ancient, and at this point the fact that they don't gaf about their filesystem is becoming a massive issue.
 
zorinlynx said:
I actually wish Apple would go back to a 2-year cycle for Mac OS X.

The reason is I maintain a lab full of Macs for a university, and having to do a yearly upgrade on all the machines is a pain in the arse. Hell, 10.8 didn't even bring much new stuff to the table; I'd rather wait two years and actually get significant updates than do minor updates every year.

The desktop/laptop computing world is very mature and tends to move slower than mobile, overall. OS update frequency should reflect this.
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I feel the same way. iOS is different because it's so new and there is room for a lot of frequent change. But OS X is mature. I'd rather have Apple fix bugs and quirks in OS X rather than keep changing things for what feels like change for the sake of change at times.
 
G4DP said:
Is Mac rumours ever going to actually post the truth?

No one confirmed a New Mac Pro. They said something professionals would really like. Cook did not definitively state a new mac pro will be released.
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Apparently you don't actually read this site.....

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/1...c-pro-and-imac-designs-likely-coming-in-2013/


No one is going to come out and give extremely explicit details because it is against Apple corporate policy to talk in detail about future products. So raising expectations that they will say it will be named exactly Mac Pro and exactly launched in Month XXX in 2013 is never going to happen. So the "vagueness" establishes exactly nothing one way or the other that it won't be a Mac Pro. The vagueness is driven by the corporate policy. Period.






Apple are not selling in the EU because they are too ***** lazy to comply with a law that was passed 3 years ago.
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Or the news after the EU brouhaha ....

"... Apple declined to give any further information about a potential Mac Pro replacement except to reiterate that it was "working on a pro product for later this year." ... "
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/01/apple-to-stop-shipping-mac-pro-in-europe-on-march-1/

Are they guaranteeing it will be named exactly "Mac Pro"? No. The name isn't necessarily what most folks will buy.

Are they guaranteeing it has almost exactly same set of features? No.
Devices change over time.

Apple has been repeatively consistent. Every time asked about Mac Pro they give same response and have been explicit this isn't about iMac or anything else. So it is highly likely a "Mac Pro" or something with a new name that is assuming the Mac Pro's slot in the line up.

Will it cover exactly the same target market? Probably not because that market didn't lead to successful sales. If the old Mac Pro strategy was delivering to a growing market, Apple would have updated the product long before now. It is a problematical product and that likely will mean a change in feature set and market targeting. That doesn't mean there won't be a high intersection between the old and new market targeting. Just that it won't be the exact same set of folks being targeted.
 
G4DP said:
Is Mac rumours ever going to actually post the truth?

No one confirmed a New Mac Pro. They said something professionals would really like. Cook did not definitively state a new mac pro will be released.

Apple are not selling in the EU because they are too ***** lazy to comply with a law that was passed 3 years ago.
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I don't see how Macrumors is confirming a Mac Pro either; the first paragraph states "what we might see" and the Mac Pro portion of the article includes a question mark...
 
G4DP said:
Is Mac rumours ever going to actually post the truth?

No one confirmed a New Mac Pro. They said something professionals would really like. Cook did not definitively state a new mac pro will be released.

Apple are not selling in the EU because they are too ***** lazy to comply with a law that was passed 3 years ago.
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Jesus ****ing Christ, nobody outside of Apple KNOWS the truth, damn. also, stop whining about the EU, nobody gives a ****, 'Murica.
 
deconstruct60 said:
Two deeply contradicting statements. One huge barrier to entry is having a giant pile of money to loose. Getting reasonable terms with the recording industry is another ( it has been blocking Apple for months). There are no new, unique/novel barriers but they are there.
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Contradictory or not, it's true. Pandora isn't offering anything you can't get on any other Internet radio service. AND they are losing ALOT of money. Most of their listeners are freeloaders who either can't or won't pay up. Thy cant survive that kind of cash bleeding. Apple on the other hand has rather deep pockets and the muscle & connections to not only survive, but profit.

Again, the only real service out there that offers content is Sirius. If Apple buys them out, they will virtually OWN the car market.
 
G4DP said:
Apple are not selling in the EU because they are too ***** lazy to comply with a law that was passed 3 years ago.
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I don't think the reason is that Apple is lazy.

I think they planned on releasing a new computer before the ban went into place, but the project took too long to complete due to unforseen circumstances.
 
bumblebritches5 said:
The biggest feature I hope from iOS, and OS X as well for that matter, is reducing RAM usage, an OS that uses twice as much ram as it's competitors for no apparent reason, is wasteful and kind of annoying.
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Huh???

OS X and iOS are way more efficient with RAM than Windows or Android, I thought we all knew that.
 
Resellers typically get new Macs anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months out right?

Do they typically sell new Macs are full retail initially or do they sell at their lower prices immediately?

I'm trying to decide if it's worth waiting a little bit for a better price or if I should order right away through Apple.
 
ng-design said:
Unfortunately I don't understand the appeal of iRadio, nor do I understand the millions of dollars Apple is pumping into it.

In case Apple itself has forgotten, iTunes has had digital radio stations since 2001.
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Do those radio stations link back into the iTunes so that people can buy some new song that they just heard for their own personal library.

Why do bookstores allow folks to lounge around perusing all the books on the shelves? Why did Apple just extend the song preview length in the iTunes store? At some point users who have bought alot of something have to find something new to buy.

The purpose of iRadio is to introduce people to new music that they will probably like that they don't already own. Another purpose is to allow folks to stretch their dollars buy listening to music they like in exchange for ads. Apple is in the ad selling business. They also will be able to track what this wider group of folks (beyond their customers who buy everything) like and don't like. ( that helps them with pricing on what they sell and with how much they should pay the publishers. )

iRadio will be a complete failure if it doesn't bring something user specific to the programming it presents. It is customized play list more so than streaming other peoples ideas of what the play list should be. That is he substantial difference between "broadcast radio" and "custom radio".

For iTunes users that have many 10's of GBs of music it probably won't be all that interesting as remixing their library is years worth of "air time". That isn't where most folks are at though.
 
entropik said:
Resellers typically get new Macs anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months out right?
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Depends upon how order constrained the product is. For brand new products with unmeasured demand it is typically longer. For a speed bump update it is roughly the same time. For a normal upgrade where Apple has many cycles of demand measurement it should go quickly.

Apple is going to make sure Apple has enough to sell first. If there isn't enough for everyone then resellers get hung out to dry.
 
deconstruct60 said:
Depends upon how order constrained the product is. For brand new products with unmeasured demand it is typically longer. For a speed bump update it is roughly the same time. For a normal upgrade where Apple has many cycles of demand measurement it should go quickly.

Apple is going to make sure Apple has enough to sell first. If there isn't enough for everyone then resellers get hung out to dry.
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Depends, often resellers like Best Buy get the new models immediately, though in limited supply.
 
rjtyork said:
iRadio? Who cares? I hate all radio. Pandora, etc. I shouldn't have to listen to music with advertisements. Radio is dead and has been dead for a while. Apple killed it with their iPod and they haven't even realized it yet? Jeez.
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I'm with you. IMO, iRadio is much more about making subsidy partners happy (by giving us yet another "innovation" to help us burn through data tier limits so we can pay them more) than it is about giving consumers something they are just dying to have. I see iRadio as just another Siri, Facetime and maybe Maps too, all gimmicky but seemingly very tangible new things that end up being marginally useful and- and here's the real kicker- they only work if you can burn data to feed them... which certainly makes the data tollmasters happy.

What's all of the big iOS innovations in the last few years had in common: Siri, icloud, facetime, maps, iMessage and now this iRadio? They all practically beg for continuous data connections from companies who have successfully locked us into the concept of rigid data tiers. Prediction for iOS 8: iVideo (or similar) as video would burn us to next tier levels even faster than iRadio (note the rumors for some kind of cable TV-killer service associated with iTV or an Apple Television)- would AT&T, Verizion, etc tollmasters with 2GB tiers love to get us streaming more video?

Every quarter AT&T, Verizon, etc celebrate their growing revenues on iPhone sales while griping about the expense of the high subsidy on those particular phones. I think Apple innovation over the last few years has been limited by trying to focus on concepts to help those crucial partners make more money (thorough data burn).

A few weeks ago Google's iRadio launch was bashed to death here. Pandora & Spotify are well established and get mixed reviews here. But we're supposed to be very excited about one of these with Apple's brand attached to it??? I'll hope to be completely wowed but last I checked it's not 1985 or sooner anymore.
 
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But will OS X.9 finally let me do something windows has been able to do now for ages, unplug a USB drive without freaking out about me "ejecting" it safely first !!
 
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