Wow!! You sure sound like a loser.You're not a winner when all you get for $1,599 is entry to a convention.
You won the lottery! £2k pls. All this to be there when they present the latest iteration of stuff we already have. Wow.
I'm assuming most of you commenting this aren't developers so don't really understand the value.
It's what things like that cost. Most things cost more than they cost to produce and many companies don't "need" the money, yet we all still pay for goods and services.Presumably the outrageous cost of a ticket is to lower the amount of applications? Cause there's no way Apple actually need those funds to put on the event.
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Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
It's what things like that cost. Most things cost more than they cost to produce and many companies don't "need" the money, yet we all still pay for goods and services.
It's always interesting how selective suspension of reality comes into play when people simply feel like it.
And yet they appear to be consistent with the prices of concentrations/conferences of this type.No. I completely get that there are profit margins necessary, but these prices are outrageous. They are completely inflated, allowing Apple absolutely enormous profit margins per ticket. Unnecessary greed.
Google IO is only 3 days and cost $900.00 a ticket, while WWDC is 5 days. So, is Google greedy also?Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
I bet they have free Apple Watch 2's for everyone.They forgot the "**Complimentary iPad Pro can be claimed in the foyer, after the day #1 KeyNote" in the copy![]()
Go the Air BnB route. Cheap San Fancisco hotels are a nightmare. Read the Yelp reviews and you'll see many still have bedbug problems. These are mostly in very old buildings and the bugs have lots of places to hide.Got mine. Now I just need to find a hotel... Easier said then done. Especially on a budget.
You won the lottery! £2k pls. All this to be there when they present the latest iteration of stuff we already have. Wow.
Google IO is only 3 days and cost $900.00 a ticket, while WWDC is 5 days. So, is Google greedy also?
You have to pay to play. The price is the price. Additionally, you know nothing about what the price of the ticket is composed of. You don't think it costs millions to put on a conference like that, whether it be apple, google, ibm or any other company?Presumably the outrageous cost of a ticket is to lower the amount of applications? Cause there's no way Apple actually need those funds to put on the event.
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Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
Umm yes, A few conferences I been to are lottery based - If people didnt want to go, they wouldn't need a lottery! Its because so many people want to goHas there been another developer conference that required a lottery for tickets?
Apple. Dying. Doomed and such
So the issue isn't the price really, but just the inherent system of exchanging something for goods and services.They all are.
Presumably the outrageous cost of a ticket is to lower the amount of applications? Cause there's no way Apple actually need those funds to put on the event.
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Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
I do develop. But not professionally and not for iOS or OS X.I'm assuming most of you commenting this aren't developers so don't really understand the value.
So the issue isn't the price really, but just the inherent system of exchanging something for goods and services.
Taking advantage? How much do you think it costs to put on a conference of that size and duration? The logistics of it all, the cost of the engineers, video equipments, staff, planning and preparation. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they took a loss on it.
As for what it is worth? I would happily pay again (if my entry was selected) just for the time I got to spend last WWDC with Apple engineers going over the power and performance optimisations, accessibility and internationalisation features of my app. Worth every cent.
Actually, if your a student, you get all the resources for free and get all the streaming sessions for free live. The only two things you really miss out on are the professional networking and one-on-one time with Apple engineers. Neither of which the average student really needs.The inherent problem is that the pricing model is based on old school style of conferences where the companies would pay $$$$ to send people, that independents could not afford.
Last I checked students don't get the tax benefits of large scale companies for these style of conference, and while to a company $1.6k is pocket change, to an individual it's a large amount of money.
Apple should charge companies who send devs $$$$$ and offer very cheap subsidised tickets to new devs and students.
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It's a promotional event for them, the costs of running it are insignificant to the result which is a cut from Every app sold . Drop in the ocean.
For devs running a business, you write this cost off anyway.
If your a student, this cost sucks big time