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WWDC 2016 Lottery Ends, Apple Starts Charging Developers Who Won Tickets
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I'm assuming most of you commenting this aren't developers so don't really understand the value.
Presumably the outrageous cost of a ticket is to lower the amount of applications? Cause there's no way Apple actually need those funds to put on the event.
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Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
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Well to that I would say Apple are taking advantage of developers because they know they WILL pay that price, it's not necessary. It's greed.
It's what things like that cost. Most things cost more than they cost to produce and many companies don't "need" the money, yet we all still pay for goods and services.
It's always interesting how selective suspension of reality comes into play when people simply feel like it.
No. I completely get that there are profit margins necessary, but these prices are outrageous. They are completely inflated, allowing Apple absolutely enormous profit margins per ticket. Unnecessary greed.
And yet they appear to be consistent with the prices of concentrations/conferences of this type.
Google IO is only 3 days and cost $900.00 a ticket, while WWDC is 5 days. So, is Google greedy also?
I bet they have free Apple Watch 2's for everyone.They forgot the "**Complimentary iPad Pro can be claimed in the foyer, after the day #1 KeyNote" in the copy
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Go the Air BnB route. Cheap San Fancisco hotels are a nightmare. Read the Yelp reviews and you'll see many still have bedbug problems. These are mostly in very old buildings and the bugs have lots of places to hide.
You realize that WWDC is more than the 2 hour keynote on Monday morning right? Having a week of hands on training on new technologies being added to the new OS's, you can be ready to launch new apps and updates that utilize new features like when TouchID was introduced for developer use, and other similar technologies that are better adopted sooner rather than later.
You have to pay to play. The price is the price. Additionally, you know nothing about what the price of the ticket is composed of. You don't think it costs millions to put on a conference like that, whether it be apple, google, ibm or any other company?
Umm yes, A few conferences I been to are lottery based - If people didnt want to go, they wouldn't need a lottery! Its because so many people want to go
So the issue isn't the price really, but just the inherent system of exchanging something for goods and services.
Those who are capable and intelligent enough to do amazing things like write code, design UIs, and build complex frameworks will understand the immense value that WWDC presents to developers in the Apple community and its cost relative to similar experiences. The ones whose brains couldn't power a calculator complain about the price.
At first I thought: That's an expensive win - but then realizing that there are more people who want to the ticket then there are tickets available, I think Apple did a nice job.
If demand increases, they could have just raised the entrance fee and not just double it, but increase it by ten or more times. These tickets would have sold.
In this manner, small companies have at least - a chance - of participating, granted, big ones may opt for more tickets.
I think it's an attempt to give people a chance. If they were in it for the money, they would have gone the other way. I don't think there can be a "fair" system of representation between big (money) companies and smaller ones.
My guess is, that the amount asked for covers the company's costs.
If demand increases, they could have just raised the entrance fee and not just double it, but increase it by ten or more times. These tickets would have sold.
In this manner, small companies have at least - a chance - of participating, granted, big ones may opt for more tickets.
I think it's an attempt to give people a chance. If they were in it for the money, they would have gone the other way. I don't think there can be a "fair" system of representation between big (money) companies and smaller ones.
My guess is, that the amount asked for covers the company's costs.
Taking advantage? How much do you think it costs to put on a conference of that size and duration? The logistics of it all, the cost of the engineers, video equipments, staff, planning and preparation. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they took a loss on it.
As for what it is worth? I would happily pay again (if my entry was selected) just for the time I got to spend last WWDC with Apple engineers going over the power and performance optimisations, accessibility and internationalisation features of my app. Worth every cent.
The inherent problem is that the pricing model is based on old school style of conferences where the companies would pay $$$$ to send people, that independents could not afford.
Last I checked students don't get the tax benefits of large scale companies for these style of conference, and while to a company $1.6k is pocket change, to an individual it's a large amount of money.
Apple should charge companies who send devs $$$$$ and offer very cheap subsidised tickets to new devs and students.
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It's a promotional event for them, the costs of running it are insignificant to the result which is a cut from Every app sold . Drop in the ocean.
For devs running a business, you write this cost off anyway.
If your a student, this cost sucks big time
Actually, if your a student, you get all the resources for free and get all the streaming sessions for free live. The only two things you really miss out on are the professional networking and one-on-one time with Apple engineers. Neither of which the average student really needs.