WWDC announced for June 11-15th not looking good for Macs

[Jay9495]

So they announced it for June 11-15th and if they have already announced that and it's over a month away, I'd say there's a good chance iMacs or any macs will not be coming out soon or else it would of probably been announced already.

Unless they do this every year and I look like a total idiot:

let's pray that it comes out VERY soon

 

[TennisandMusic]

Yeah, it's the next to last thing you said.

No worries though, impossible to know everything about everything. New Macs tend to just show up without any kind of announcement at this point. Just because WWDC is announced doesn't mean new Macs can't come out.

 

[Jay9495]

Ok good

 

[araey]

Yeah, it's the next to last thing you said.

No worries though, impossible to know everything about everything. New Macs tend to just show up without any kind of announcement at this point. Just because WWDC is announced doesn't mean new Macs can't come out.

completely true. the last mac that got into an event was the air redesign in 2010. However one reason that we havnt seen macs in events since that point is because they have all be internal refreshes rather then redesigns. (except for the mac mini). With 2012 being the 4th year of the unibody series its likely that they will be doing redesigns across the board as it tends to happen in 4 year cycles. If that is the case (which I'm not saying for definite) then it would be odd for them not to portray the new designs at an event. Maybe not WWDC as this is focused more on software now but through a separate keynote.

To the OP: If they come out with redesigns i think its more likely they will wait after WWDC and release with Mountain Lion. This will hurt Q2 for them but with the part delays they have experienced Apple may not have much choice if they want to keep on track with their software and hardware launch schedule for the year.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[lifeguard90]

Great... After ML or after June.. Glad i sold my mbp to get imac.

 

[Logos327]

I still think it is likely we will see new iMacs within two weeks, however I am not betting on a redesign. If there is one, there would be a greater chance of holding an event (not a certainty as the 2010 iMacs show) which we would hear about no earlier than 6-7 days before.

WWDC and Mountain Lion do not necessarily affect the iMac release as last year shows.

 

[TennisandMusic]

completely true. the last mac that got into an event was the air redesign in 2010. However one reason that we havnt seen macs in events since that point is because they have all be internal refreshes rather then redesigns. (except for the mac mini). With 2012 being the 4th year of the unibody series its likely that they will be doing redesigns across the board as it tends to happen in 4 year cycles. If that is the case (which I'm not saying for definite) then it would be odd for them not to portray the new designs at an event. Maybe not WWDC as this is focused more on software now but through a separate keynote.

To the OP: If they come out with redesigns i think its more likely they will wait after WWDC and release with Mountain Lion. This will hurt Q2 for them but with the part delays they have experienced Apple may not have much choice if they want to keep on track with their software and hardware launch schedule for the year.

Just my 2 cents.

I don't think they did a show thing at all with the last iMac and Mac Mini redesigns.

 

[lifeguard90]

It would be great to have them come mid May. -- and or at least more info andsupply shortages come asap. NO news is killer. Esp when stupid reports say June or after ML

 

[leman]

As people already noted, Apple does not usually announce product updates unless its a redesign. They just... happen. Anyway, I am positive that new iMacs will appear really soon — all suitable components (CPU, GPU, chipset) have been released. I doubt that Apple will take too long with an update.

And I really hope that they will use the 7970M, or I will get really pissed ^^

 

[lifeguard90]

Agreed on 7970m even if its BTO. and make it 2GB option. If this refresh pans out crappy.... $&@%

 

[Jay9495]

I really hope they can squeeze a desktop GPU in there.

 

[Logos327]

I really hope they can squeeze a desktop GPU in there.

This will not happen. Don't get your expectations up.

 

[onthecouchagain]

So no chance of "retina" display in the new iMacs?

 

[Logos327]

So no chance of "retina" display in the new iMacs?

Maybe next year is my guess. I remember reading Samsung is working on a something like a 21" retina display but I haven't heard anything about displays larger than that. I won't rule it out completely, but I would say there is almost no chance. Here's how I see thigns:

All but confirmed:
- IB CPUs
- AMD 7700-7900 GPUs (or the Nvidia equivalents that will be announced this Saturday)

30-60% chance of happening:
- Removal of the optical drive
- Addition of small SSD as a boot drive standard
- Anti-glare glass

10% chance of happening:
- Redesign
- >27" display option

Effectively 0% chance of happening:
- Touch screen
- Desktop class GPU
- Retina Displays

 

[spedanden]

Maybe next year is my guess. I remember reading Samsung is working on a something like a 21" retina display but I haven't heard anything about displays larger than that. I won't rule it out completely, but I would say there is almost no chance. Here's how I see thigns:

All but confirmed:
- IB CPUs
- AMD 7700-7900 GPUs (or the Nvidia equivalents that will be announced this Saturday)

30-60% chance of happening:
- Removal of the optical drive
- Addition of small SSD as a boot drive standard
- Anti-glare glass

10% chance of happening:
- Redesign
- >27" display option

Effectively 0% chance of happening:
- Touch screen
- Desktop class GPU
- Retina Displays

I kind of laugh when people put percentages on things like this. I'm not doggin' you, I just wonder where these numbers come from. There's a very likely possibility of the Ivy Bridge and 7000series gpu's.... yes. The rest as far as we know are 50/50. There's no other percentage there could be, it'll happen or it wont.

The only thing I AM sure of... is you are 67.4% likely to take offense to this.

 

[Logos327]

I kind of laugh when people put percentages on things like this. I'm not doggin' you, I just wonder where these numbers come from. There's a very likely possibility of the Ivy Bridge and 7000series gpu's.... yes. The rest as far as we know are 50/50. There's no other percentage there could be, it'll happen or it wont.

The only thing I AM sure of... is you are 67.4% likely to take offense to this.

Ha, no offense. I should have clarified I don't mean these as literal percentages, but I used them rather than a long, convoluted sentence trying to get across my level of confidence in each situation.

That being said, I will say I consider your comment about there being no other odds than 50/50 incorrect. I believe we can make educated guesses that are more likely than others. By your logic, as far as we know, Apple is just as likely to rerelease the equivalent of early 2000s iMacs as they are to release contemporary ones. They will or they won't. But we know better. Just because an event is in the future doesn't mean we can't make sound and reasonable predictions about what will happen.

 

[thomasfrdavis]

i think they might announce the macs on may. WWDC will talk more about whats inside iOS n Mountain Lion. most likely the next gen macs will be out with it. or with Lion but earlier launch date.

hope im rite

 

[spedanden]

Ha, no offense. I should have clarified I don't mean these as literal percentages, but I used them rather than a long, convoluted sentence trying to get across my level of confidence in each situation.

That being said, I will say I consider your comment about there being no other odds than 50/50 incorrect. I believe we can make educated guesses that are more likely than others. By your logic, as far as we know, Apple is just as likely to rerelease the equivalent of early 2000s iMacs as they are to release contemporary ones. They will or they won't. But we know better. Just because an event is in the future doesn't mean we can't make sound and reasonable predictions about what will happen.

I was just giving you a hard time

As for my 50/50, it was in reference to the things you mentioned, not ALL possibilities. Most of those in my opinion have a 50/50 shot of being done. With exception of retina. I don't think they would steal their own thunder out of the iPadHD this early. They like to bleed out hype.

 

[araey]

10% chance of happening:
- Redesign
- >27" display option

What makes you think a redesign will probably not happen? Its a 4 year cycle and I'm pretty sure iMac is in its 4th year...

 

[HuskyMac]

I may lose my mind... I don't own an iMac now, but will not buy the current version with a refresh so close... I find myself watching 27 inch iMac porn on YouTube aka iMac unboxings and reviews. I'm ready for a I series Mac since my MacBook is getting a bit on the downer side...

 

[forty2j]

What makes you think a redesign will probably not happen? Its a 4 year cycle and I'm pretty sure iMac is in its 4th year...

They'll probably save a redesign for Retina, which is more far more likely to be next year.

If there was a radical change in appearance, you would see part pictures on this website by now.

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I may lose my mind... I don't own an iMac now, but will not buy the current version with a refresh so close... I find myself watching 27 inch iMac porn on YouTube aka iMac unboxings and reviews. I'm ready for a I series Mac since my MacBook is getting a bit on the downer side...

Don't forget your other senses.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...rZmaCg&usg=AFQjCNF1v1Z-OOJqjkDjBHYj2VWM3d3hpQ

 

[theSeb]

What makes you think a redesign will probably not happen? Its a 4 year cycle and I'm pretty sure iMac is in its 4th year...

What makes you think it's a 4 year cycle? Just because it's happened once before? If the iMac had been going for 20 years and every 4 years it had been redesigned, then the argument would hold some water, but there is no empirical evidence to suggest any pattern in the design refresh cycles.

 

[bawbac]

I really hope they can squeeze a desktop GPU in there.

To increase profits, I suspect they will use the Intel GPU that is built in to the CPU. It will be good enough for 90% of the people.
Then the add on GPU will be BTO only to maximize profits.

 

[boy-better-know]

With 2012 being the 4th year of the unibody series its likely that they will be doing redesigns across the board as it tends to happen in 4 year cycles.

I think you could be right here. I imagine a big shake up this year. Anyone remember at the end of the iPad keynote, Cook said that 2012 is going to be a big year for Apple, or something along those lines. I expect to see something new on the computer side of things. Maybe a new product.

Would love to see a professional all in one. That would be so, so good. Like a 27" iMac pro alongside the normal iMacs. Put me down for one of them right now! This is just an off the wall idea, I'm not saying its going to happen.

 

[araey]

What makes you think it's a 4 year cycle? Just because it's happened once before? If the iMac had been going for 20 years and every 4 years it had been redesigned, then the argument would hold some water, but there is no empirical evidence to suggest any pattern in the design refresh cycles.

don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure the iMac has gone through 4 year redesign cycles since 1998 with return of Jobs. Granted this makes it only like 3, but that does hold some water considering its been 14 years.

Again don't quote me, if you have more detailed info on the cycle refreshes since 1998 I'm all ears.