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We live in strange times. Those gadgets must be examples of what one COULD do, not Apple-provided ones that will make it to golden master... or I'm going crazy :) Feature-wise, most of the reported stuff sounds good--and optional if you don't like it. (Menu bar goodies are always optional.)

As for the banners... this is for a private developer conference, it's not marketing aimed at the public. And it's a point with real truth behind it--truth that developers may understand better than most.

"Tiger Mac OS X" is just weird :)
 
It's so weird to not have any hardware related rumours this close to WWDC! I don't mean the iMac rumours reported before, but like "Apple To Release __________ Tomorrow" sort of stuff.

Maybe no new hardware is going to be released :( Just Tiger :(

>>>PS: does anyone else think that the Tiger CD is the ugliest thing you've seen in a long time? It's just the panther 'X' over this cheap looking tiger printing i'd see in some cheap cheap furniture store. Blech, animal prints are just bad and that CD just looks BAD! They could have at least redesigned the 'X' and had just that be on the CD. Simplicity is beautiful! :rolleyes:
 
five04 said:
this really makes me not like apple when they take business to a personal level. can they present their software without making fun of microsoft? people don't like arrogance and it seems like more and more apple is acting that way.


Don't like it go someplace else :p ;) :D
 
phillymjs said:
Nice to see Apple taking more overt jabs at Microsoft and their "innovation."

~Philly

oh yes - of course - Apple are innovators unlike MS. Try and tell Arlo that when the K clone Dashboard comes out tomorrow. Seems maybe Arlo should be saying "Apple, start your photocopiers"
 
TWinbrook46636 said:
Regarding the pictures of the banners... I think the big question should be - are there any covered banners yet to be revealed?

Yes, level 1 was still covered when I was there earlier today and level 3 can't be seen.
 
Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site? I think I'm gonna do what I did back at the keynote speach back in January: Pull an all nighter, hitting the 'refresh' button in Safari every 30 seconds. :)


Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site?
 
Gherkin said:
Why not just put the calculator in your dock or on the desktop?

I'm not saying Dashboard is a bad idea, I just don't fully understand it's function yet.

Because my dock is already filed with more important Apps...
 
not sure

musicpyrite said:
Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site? I think I'm gonna do what I did back at the keynote speach back in January: Pull an all nighter, hitting the 'refresh' button in Safari every 30 seconds. :)


Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site?


not sure, but I'm doing the same thing! :p

Apple Events are Such Fun!!!! :rolleyes:
 
musicpyrite said:
Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site? I think I'm gonna do what I did back at the keynote speach back in January: Pull an all nighter, hitting the 'refresh' button in Safari every 30 seconds. :)


Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site?

They don't usually update the site until after the Keynote, or at least most of the way through it. If I were you, I would get some sleep...
 
HenMaster6000 said:
Just a theory: What if apple released these screenshots, anonymously and purposely ugly, in order to bring down our hopes and disappoint us. Then they take them away, leading us to believe that these are in fact real screenshots. During the Keynote Steve tells us they were fake, or more likely, neglects to mention it at all knowing that when he showed us the real tiger on monday we'd be so shocked and relieved that we'd love it, even if it wasn't that great.

maybe
:confused:

hmm maybe so, but personally I think that would be a very, very stupid move. No company would deliberatley put there product in the negative spotlight, EVER. Anyway if Apple felt that they need to shatter our expectations in order to shcock us, it just proves that Tiger is a poor product that apple has little confidence in.

BUT, if Apple is able to generate a massive hype before their product is prevewed, and then BLOW OUR MINDS with an awesome product that is above all expectations, than that is a true sign of a superior product. Lets hope this is the case.
 
nsb3000 said:
Just in case anyone has not checked out the Banners yet, (at the link in the quote) they are really cool.

They read "Introducing Longhorn" , "Redmond, we have a problem" , "This should keep redmond busy" and (My personal favorite) "Redmond, start your photocopiers" .

those banners are the coolest things i have ever seen... bar none.
 
nsb3000 said:
They don't usually update the site until after the Keynote, or at least most of the way through it. If I were you, I would get some sleep...

nahhh, if I get board, I'll just watch a movie and check back to Apple.com every half and hour or so, and once I see anything, I'll report it to MacRumors.
 
Doctor Q said:
My first reaction to the banners is negative. Sure, they make ME laugh, and probably the same for a lot of developers at the conference, but I don't think the "us vs. them" attitude will help Apple sway non-Mac or minds as well as an "all that and better" attitude would. I'm no marketing expert, and in this case they are preaching to the flock, but still...

because the WWDC is not a public event, i presume that the headings in any of those banners will ever be used outside of the WWDC... But it is certainly a great way of building up mac-loyalty to the converted.
 
five04 said:
this really makes me not like apple when they take business to a personal level. can they present their software without making fun of microsoft? people don't like arrogance and it seems like more and more apple is acting that way.
So go buy Windows.

Jeesh - it's humor people!

Besides, as many people have pointed out - they are targeted to OS X developers. They're reassuring them that they are developing for a platform that has a future.
 
musicpyrite said:
Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site? I think I'm gonna do what I did back at the keynote speach back in January: Pull an all nighter, hitting the 'refresh' button in Safari every 30 seconds. :)


Does anybody know when Apple.com updates their site?

Get some sleep!!!It won't be update until atleast the keynote commences, which is in about 15 hours but whose counting
 
five04 said:
this really makes me not like apple when they take business to a personal level. can they present their software without making fun of microsoft? people don't like arrogance and it seems like more and more apple is acting that way.

I agree with you and all others who don't find the Anti-Microsoft, rather personal, kind of unprofessional wording on all those Tiger banners, at all appealing. Bad move IMHO. But I understand that others might find them entertaining, but as a business move? Err :rolleyes:
 
There one positive thing about the banners though, the fact that they have made those statements about Longhorn shows that Tiger is going to be an awesome, innovative product that will [be much better than] longhorn. Which is going to take more than a dashboard, gadgets and a search bar.

Lets hope they effectively use metadata and bury WinFS (or whatever it is)
 
Macrumors said:
1) Smart Folders in Finder - these virtual folders allow you save specific search criteria for files and present matching files. Similar to iTunes' Smart Playlists.

A feature from Copland (MacOS 8 - Take I). It seems Microsoft's a lot quicker/better at copying from Apple than Apple is... ;)
 
Does anyone remember ages ago when Bill Gates came on video with Steve Jobs and the crowd booed? Jobs halted them and said something like "we have to drop this notion that for Apple to win Microsoft has to loose".

Also, does anyone remember how angry Steve was when ATi blundered and also when that digital camera (Canon?) didn't work on stage?

I think that Microsoft have done something to annoy him and this is his classic way of not going too far, but making the people it's directed at well aware, i.e., what he's saying is quite cutting and he doesn't seem to mind if it costs Apple a bit (they stopped shipping ATi cards on high-end machines for quite some time iirc for example).

Why he's angry I don't know, but he was pretty curt with the Office 2004 demo, whizzing through the slides and slightly cutting off the rep. Also his tone dropped quite a lot while talking about it.

Just a theory.
AppleMatt
 
LaMerVipere said:
I agree with you and all others who don't find the Anti-Microsoft, rather personal, kind of unprofessional wording on all those Tiger banners, at all appealing. Bad move IMHO. But I understand that others might find them entertaining, but as a business move? Err :rolleyes:

Like it or not its advertising companies insult and compare products and services.

However in this case if you know the HISTORY behind both companies you will get the humour.

Its also states that longhorn in due 2006(07) and Tiger is due 2004(05), it shows that the Mac OS is evolving faster while it will take teh competition a long time to copy what is being done today. :D
 
DesertDog said:
Yes, level 1 was still covered when I was there earlier today and level 3 can't be seen.

Were there any vertical banners like the Tiger ones pictured in this thread that might indicate a picture of new hardware or just the smaller horizontal ones indicating text/quotes only? Looks like we may get some surprises. Whether they are software or hardware remains to be seen.
 
AppleMatt said:
Does anyone remember ages ago when Bill Gates came on video with Steve Jobs and the crowd booed? Jobs halted them and said something like "we have to drop this notion that for Apple to win Microsoft has to loose".

Also, does anyone remember how angry Steve was when ATi blundered and also when that digital camera (Canon?) didn't work on stage?

I think that Microsoft have done something to annoy him and this is his classic way of not going too far, but making the people it's directed at well aware, i.e., what he's saying is quite cutting and he doesn't seem to mind if it costs Apple a bit (they stopped shipping ATi cards on high-end machines for quite some time iirc for example).

Why he's angry I don't know, but he was pretty curt with the Office 2004 demo, whizzing through the slides and slightly cutting off the rep. Also his tone dropped quite a lot while talking about it.

Just a theory.
AppleMatt


maybe just maybe Apple has the NEW Apple OFFICE.app ;) that could be the reason behind all this bashing on the banners :eek:
 
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