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Even tho' the announcement of the 12" and 17" PowerBooks came only a couple of months after an upgrade to the 15" model, it left the 15" Model as it was, so in my opinion, is was a new product announcement and not a short upgrade cycle.

Unless there are major breakthroughs, I doubt there will be a G5 Powerbook announced within the next couple o fmonths. And I highly doubt a 2.2GHz version at the end of this month.

In truth and reality, only time will tell.
 
If Apple do actually have the technology ready for G5 PBs, should they sit on it just so as not to offend people who bought a PB in the last month or so?

The reality is that no matter when Apple release an update, people who've bought in the previous month or two feel aggrieved.

If Apple has got G5 PBs, bring 'em on!
 
klaus said:
Bogus..

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/04/20040419232454.shtml

He said it himself..it would be "quite some time"...
Actually, Greg Joswiak said "some time". You added the "quite".
"it will be some time before that processor [G5] will be in a notebook".
Besides, it has already been three months since that article came out and I would guess there was probably another month of lead time before the article was written. Still "some time" is pretty open to interpretation.
Additionally, Joswiak is a marketing guy, so I wouldn't expect him to say the G5 PowerBook is just around the corner and destroy the current G4 PowerBook sales.
It occured to me that Apple still sells new G4 PowerMacs. Would it be possible we could see the PowerBook still availible in both G4 and G5 flavors (when the G5's finally come out)?
 
ChrisH3677 said:
If Apple do actually have the technology ready for G5 PBs, should they sit on it just so as not to offend people who bought a PB in the last month or so?

The reality is that no matter when Apple release an update, people who've bought in the previous month or two feel aggrieved.

If Apple has got G5 PBs, bring 'em on!
If this anonymous report turns out to be true...it's a total surprise for me that PowerBook G5s would be announced this early (but then again, I don't really need a PowerBook anyway - that's why I have an iMac - so I'm not the slightest bit concerned/miffed/what have you). I am also expecting PBG5s to appear in January 2005. I would expect the first generation PowerBook G5s to have processors like the ones in the first-generation PowerMac G5s - i.e. Single 1.6, Single 1.8, and Single 2.0 GHz (since the PowerBooks don't cope too well with dual CPUs - although perhaps the 17" PowerBook G5 could have a dual-core 2.0 GHz CPU, to mimic the PowerMac G5).
 
ChrisH3677 said:
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The reality is that no matter when Apple release an update, people who've bought in the previous month or two feel aggrieved.
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You are partially correct. However, those who buy a new product on the day it is announced should have a reasonable expectation of the product not being upgraded in less then 4 or 5 months.

On the other end. if the current product is 6 months old and is probably about to be upgraded, yes those who bought might be a a bit annoyed, howeber, it's not the same as an upgrade happening two months after the previous upgrade.

Oh and more to your point, some people will find whatever they can to whine about. So ignore the whining.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
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It occured to me that Apple still sells new G4 PowerMacs. Would it be possible we could see the PowerBook still availible in both G4 and G5 flavors (when the G5's finally come out)?
Apple is still selling the G4 Powermac for those who still need to boot into OS 9. None of the current Powerbooks can boot into OS 9, so that's one less reason to keep them around when the G5 PBs come out.

I think the only major application that isn't G5 ready is Virtual PC. Will Apple wiat on a G% PB for Virtual PC? I don't know.
 
hahaha "and it generates enough heat to keep your entire home nice and toasty!"

If I had to make some predictions I would say,

WWDC: PowerMacs, Displays, iPods
Sept: iBooks (G4), iMacs (G5), (emacs?)
Jan: PowerBooks might get G5, some kind of iPod change (size? price?)
 
add me to the list of people who will eat their socks if it is true. it would be bad business practice to bring out a new model, then about 2 months later replace it again. and 2.2ghz, yeh right, we dont even have 2.2 in powermacs.
 
What does Apple gain by announcing a G5 PB on 28 June that won't ship probably till September?

Seems to me it would make sense - I can imagine people won't buy new machines from now till September anyway so it wouldn't hurt too many sales to say that in 2 months it's all going to get a G5 boost..
 
maxing out the RAM on all systems is the most absurd thing I think I've ever heard

1. Apple makes a lot of profit selling upgrades to powerbook buyers.
2. It's going to drive the price up a few $100's
3. Most people don't need 4GB RAM. ha ha. I still can't stop laughing.

I needed that. This rumor made my day.
 
The Powerbooks just got a nice upgrade, so it ain't going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major upgrade in the imac, which is long over due for a make over and hasn't had one since last November. But, likely this round we'll see the same 1.5 GHZ chip that's in the PB as Apple generally mirrors the PB with imac upgrades. However, come late winter/early spring 2005 expect some major changes in both machines, ala the G5. They have been working on a number of prototypes with different form factors for both models.
 
The IBM specs for the 970FX state a max bus frequency of 1.1 Ghz - exactly half of 2.2 Ghz.
 
I can see why they may release a G5 powerbook... they may, as someone said, been sitting on the technology for some time now.

If they can't get the G5 up to 3GHz, steve can stand on stage, sigh, and admit he's only got a 2.2GHz G5, but hey! look at thsi! G5 PowerBooks!! Ok, so it may need some kind of ice-cooling :p

Hob
 
sjjordan said:
So, that's it! Duel processor powerbooks! :D
I think dual-core PowerBooks are more likely than dual processor Powerbooks at this point...there just isn't enough room for two CPU's, even in the 17" model when you take cooling requirements into account. A dual-core chip, on the other hand, takes up less physical space and should fit within the cooling guidelines for Apple's PowerBooks. I say, Apple - Bring on the dual-core G5 PB!!!
 
It's just possible - Apple would have been developing it apart from the G4 'Books, as it's a new product, and they're received a relatively minor upgrade. Bear in mind, they've received no really major changes (slight speed changes, basically, and now better graphics) for an EXTREMELY long time. This could point to development having been siphoned off elsewhere - a G5, perhaps. This would then be released as soon as it was ready, though might be announced at the WWDC for maximum impact.

However, logic would dictate that they won't release a totally new 'Book quite so quickly on the heels of an upgraded G4 - someone mentioned earlier that it wouldn't be good business sense. We won't see it, I'm fairly certain. I certainly don't expect to see speeds that high in the first revision, unless we really do have to wait as long as January - in which case, unless Apple manage to pull out something really special, they'll lose a lot of credibility in the laptop market.
 
My guess - no sooner than announced January 2005 and shipping a few months later.

However if they do come this early I probably would buy 10. :)
 
bob_the_gorilla said:
It's just possible - Apple would have been developing it apart from the G4 'Books, as it's a new product, and they're received a relatively minor upgrade. Bear in mind, they've received no really major changes (slight speed changes, basically, and now better graphics) for an EXTREMELY long time. This could point to development having been siphoned off elsewhere - a G5, perhaps. This would then be released as soon as it was ready, though might be announced at the WWDC for maximum impact.

I agree, although the PB's were upgraded in April, for over a year now it has been nothing but speed bumps and minor improvements. In fact, since the introduction of the G5 PowerMac only the iBook has had a truly major revision (G3->G4). Otherwise, it has been speed bump after speed bump for everything (iMac, eMac, and PowerBook). To me it looks like Apple is just trying to get the most of out the Moto G4's until there is no gain left to get. Well... does anyone expect the G4 to keep getting faster? If not, there is not where else for the PB line to go other than G5.
 
I was just thinking wasnt there a story a couple months ago hinting at refresh's on most product lines around WWDC. I thought i read it somewhere don't remeber where though.
So there always is a possibility.

_Neal
 
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