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WWDC Product Releases?

zedwards said:
Repeat after me:
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
G5 Pro, iMac not
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iSight is about as consumer as it comes, and it was announced at last year's WWDC. Why do Objective C and Java programmers care about a webcam? Apple doesn't seem to mind what it announces at what event, whether it's targeted at creative pros, developers, or consumers. If there's something big to announce (like a G5 iMac), then I think they'll do it at WWDC regardless. Anyway...why wouldn't a G5 iMac make a nice little development system?
 
How about a headless version of a wall-hanging Mac?

A pizza-box Mac built in behind the flat screen is a very cool idea. If true, I hope an arm-stand is available, though, since that's a very cool thing about the current model. Multiple stand/hanging options would be perfect. I could stand a power brick on the floor just fine, and a slot-load DVD in the side.

I can imagine cable-management issues in a wall-mounted unit, but a few bag ties will clean that up :)

What would be REALLY cool is headless version of that! Oh, wait a minute... there's something Pet Rock about that...
 
Details are sketchy, but one source, who has provided accurate information on previous projects, claims that the new iMac will sport a vertical "pizza box" physique with the main logic board mounted vertically behind the computer's LCD screen.
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lot of possibilities:

1. the imac could come with a stand/base for people who want it at their desk or come with a wallmount for people who want a flat-screen TV.

2. if it's a wall-mounted, i'd venture to guess that it'll be loaded with multi-media capabilities, e.g. TV-in

3. what the heck to do with the optical drive: if it's wall-mounted, i'd venture to guess that the optical drive will be detached from the display and connected via firewire+usb. maybe it can be in a stereo component form fact and include a HD and various stereo and video in/outs.
 
Laslo Panaflex said:
That's exactly what I was thinking . . .

And, if you can attach a G5 motherboard to a screen, so it can be mounted to a wall, why can't you put it in a laptop? It doesn't make sense to me, why would you put your computer on your wall? A Tablet like device, I can understand, but a computer that you can hang on a wall, why?

I would never use such a device, unless the monitor was at least 30". Anything below 30" would not be of any use, further than say 5 feet away.
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It would only make sense to me if it was a "smart" monitor of some sort -- TiVo and wireless onboard, tells knock knock jokes, etc.
 
SiliconAddict said:
I don't think so. Reason?
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I gave a bit of a reason.... Ive not wanting to keep to the "consumer whites" for too long (just like a fashion designer).
Maybe not aluminium, but it will be different. The "Bondi" iMac was introduced in 1998. The colourful iMacs a year later, and the "all whites G4" iMac in 2002.
I assume, that a G5 iMac would be "so much of a deal" that the consumer line-up will be revised. The iBook and eMac (both G4) will stay white, but the new G5 consumer products of time to come will certainly be "different".

I have no clue (hey, I'm not Mr. Ive!), but it should be looking gr8!

But you are right about it probably not being aluminium.... We have that now as the "Pro" line-up...
 
oingoboingo said:
iSight is about as consumer as it comes, and it was announced at last year's WWDC. Why do Objective C and Java programmers care about a webcam? Apple doesn't seem to mind what it announces at what event, whether it's targeted at creative pros, developers, or consumers. If there's something big to announce (like a G5 iMac), then I think they'll do it at WWDC regardless. Anyway...why wouldn't a G5 iMac make a nice little development system?
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Agreed. WWDC has become THE event for the mid-year, now that Apple has pulled out of the MacWorld Expo / CreativePro. The event is for MORE than just developers now.

Plus, a new media-oriented iMac would serve as a good base for third-party additions, whether this be in hardware or software. Just as the iPod (a relatively 'dumb' consumer device) has spawned a whole industry of its own and large following of 'developers,' a revolutionary consumer machine could really excite the developer community.
 
Porchland said:
It would only make sense to me if it was a "smart" monitor of some sort -- TiVo and wireless onboard, tells knock knock jokes, etc.
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What!?!? Have you never used Apple's Speakable Items?

"Computer. Tell me a joke."

Why did the chicken cross the road?
To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
 
Eight day free return policy?!? LOL!

Oh really, if I remember, they DAY the new ibooks were released this guy at my local apple store complained to the store manager saying he just bought it like less than a week before. All the manager said was "pay the 100 dollar restocking fee, and you get ur new ibook, sorry no free exchanges" ;)
 
Re: Too little, too late

rog said:
Apple misses another prime opportunity to take the lead in the consumer market.
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More ignorant FUD!

It's NEVER too late. People are replacing their personal computers (this includes PC's (x86 machines running Windows), Macs and Linux boxes) all the time and every time is an opportunity for them to choose whatever platform they want. With some of the most popular usages for consumer personal computers being e-mail and web surfing, it is very easy to switch computers without ditching your investment in software. Of course with gaming being another popular usage, it's possible that users are locked in to the platform their games are written for.

Nevertheless, history has shown that companies with insurmountable leads tend to become complacent and allow competitors to sneak up on them. Safari came out of nowhere to blow away IE on the Mac platform. Mozilla-based products, Opera and others are starting to challenge IE on its home platform.

iPods were not the first MP3 players available and the iTunes Music Store wasn't the first to sell music on the Internet, but as soon as they appeared, Apple became to leader in digital music.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to predict Apple's future based on wringing your hands over perceived missed opportunites (I'm surprised you haven't bloviated about Apple's absence in the PDA market. It's because Steve was smart (like me ;-) ) and thought that it was just a passing fad -- and it was.) Never underestimate Apple's ability to do the extraordinary, even if it with an item that is very plain in it's current form. It's similar to the secret of Jerry Seinfeld's comedy success: he takes topics that lots of other comedians treat and does them in his own inimitable style and creates something really funny.
 
SiliconAddict said:
No its someone concerned with the future of Apple and their investment in Apple products. Like it or not market share does indeed matter to developers who look at where their wares have the best chance of selling. Over here with 91% of the market or over here at 3-4% and shrinking.
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Like I said in a previous post, as long as it doesn't effect third party development or profits, market share is just so much meaningless wall street jargon, thrown around way more than it should be. I guess by your logic, Nobody should buy a BMW because you'd never be able to get a new set of rims if you wanted some down the road...nobody makes the rims for BMW because they only have whatever % of the market. Yeah, obviously market share matters just as much as everyone hypes it up to mean. Market share is only relevent when you are talking about a single market. To me, Apple isn't in the same market as PC makers. Apple makes high end computers...therefore, in my estimation, Apple has a 65% market share of high end computers. Like I said, as long as we can buy macs, and products for macs, what do we care about amrket share? just be happy that you have a mac and don't be concerned with what everyone else in the world uses.


EDIT: By the way, did you actually READ the post you are referring to? The guy says "Apple misses another opportunity to take the lead in the consumer computer market"....Um yeeeaaaah...he's talking about third party development like you claim.
 
MAYBE the difference in price between the 23" and 30" is because you can hang the 30" on your wall and wirelessly transmit DVD movies from your Apple.
 
I would love that iMac. Few of my audio apps utilize duels, and I rarely run more than one at once.

I am, however, getting my CPU's ass kicked in by Max/MSP/Jitter.

Bring on the G5 iMacs. I will sell my Powerbook that day.
 
taco said:
i just took delivery on a rev. b dual 1.8 w/ 256mb ram (upgraded it myself to 1.25 gigs), 80 gig hd (slapped in another 200 gig sata for video), 128mb ati 9600XT, logitech mx900 bluetooth mouse and logitech z-2200 thx speakers- a new 20" apple lcd is all i need to complete this awesome system!!!

previous to the dual g5, i'd been using a latest rev 17" imac... wow... what a difference. both great machines, but the dual is just unbelievable.

anyone else get their new rev. bs? what do you think?
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I did close to the same as you, but I have the rev B dual 2.0 Ghz. Put in a gig of RAM, the 9600XT, and then bluetooth and Airport Extreme, I have a mx500 mouse, another 200 GB HD, and altec lansing speakers. If the new 20" is under $1000 I'll most likely get it. It beats the pants off the G4 450 I was using. Man, sometimes it's good that girls don't make up their minds quick because if they did I'd be married and I couldn't get all this stuff. :rolleyes:
 
noel4r said:
MAYBE the difference in price between the 23" and 30" is because you can hang the 30" on your wall and wirelessly transmit DVD movies from your Apple.
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Well if there's going to be any wireless transmitting to a display, I doubt it will just be DVD movies...why not transmit the whole display signal if you are already transmitting the movie? Then the movie gets shown anyway, but the display becomes even that much more functional
 
Later I Guess

You could always watch the rebroadcast later on apples website...... Of course, then it wouldn't be live...... :eek:
 
Steve Steppin Down

Wow, that would be serious bust. Look at what happend the minute Ted Wait left..... Even when he came back, he couldn't bring the company back afloat. Wait, doesn't Ted Wait look a lot like James Tyler? :p
 
So, the iMac is going to be similar looking to the 20th Anniversary Mac minus the subwoofer?

That's how I'm imagining it.

Here's what I think it'll look like, about take a PowerMac G5 case and adding a LCD for a side panel. Of course, I think it'll be significantly smaller than a G5 case. Open it on the other side of the LCD and upgrade RAM and toss in your AE card.

But this opens up another opportunity... it may make the iMac upgradable! If it has a case similar to a PowerMac, I'm sure we can toss in PCI-X cards and finally change that graphics card! If they make a nice narrow case, and perhaps make it hang-able, I think this iMac will be the best yet. Of course, make the price right, Apple! $1299 base at maximum and up to $1799 should be a nice deal, right?

I'm sure going to miss the neck on the current iMacs. This iMac has made the whole OS X experience great. But now, it may all be gone :(

Most importantly, Apple should release some sort of new device we can all use. I'd like to buy one Apple product this year that isn't software. Here's to hoping at least Tiger will amaze us!
 
Not forward thinking enough...

When you haven't heard anything from Apple about an important technology for awhile, its usually because they are working on a product with that tech involved. I think Airport Express was an important clue to Apple's direction. Wireless. Integrating into the Media Creation home environment means working with video as well as audio. To me that means DVD. A wireless keyboard and mouse means you can make the Mac invisible and the Mac becomes its interface, as it always was meant to be. The Mac has always been its interface- the hardware necessarily elegant because you couldn't hide it. Now that Wireless is here, its time to intro wireless FIREWIRE! Just as the first iMac made the transition to USB, this one will move totally into the wireless realm. So this allows:

1. Making the DVD burner a wireless component that you can hook up to your entertainment center- maybe move a TiVo style recording interface to your Mac that controls the component.

2. This DVD component is controlled by a remote that also controlls Airport Express! The DVD component neccesarily has video out already- it can show its control messages on the TV screen.

3. Invisible Mac- It can hang on the back of your big screen LCD or anywhere else that makes it not noticable at all- ultimately I don't care about the box- as long as I can upgrade the RAM easily, I'd prefer it to be invisible.

If this isn't what Apple is doing- it should be!!!
 
Cooknn said:
Yeah Baby :D I posted this before I read your post. Glad someone else has the same train of thought. How about a Hi-Def iMovie Store!
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Don't go there! Lately, the iTMS is very slow. It may because of the new European customers or just all of the content, but I get errors and slow loads every time. Apple should upgrade their iTMS server farm before they even bother to think about selling movies. Remember, Steve, you made the claim Apple could move oceans of data, but it sure isn't showing anymore.
 
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