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[XB360] HD DVD now $179 w/ 5 free movies!
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Yeah there is a way to do this. I think it is even explained somewhere around these parts, though I'm far too lazy to find it myself.
Even SONY have said they envision the next PS4 to not have an optical drive at all. They envision digital distribution, and given the success of the PSN Store / Live Store / VC Store it's obvious THAT IS THE FUTURE.... Step on board
Even me (and IIRC you too!) on a 512kbps connection - I can see Digital Distrobution as the future. I don't mind waiting for a game to download.
Maybe it's a little too outside the box, but what if all the next systems had detachable HDD's or flash drive, you simply take that with you to a shop and through wireless jiggery pokery they can send the game to your drive as you buy it.
Take away optical drives and you have quieter, cheaper and smaller systems, less power usage, cooler temperatures, hell if it's a big flash drive= no moving parts.
The DS already has wireless download stations in shops. Simply take that a step further.
Even SONY have said they envision the next PS4 to not have an optical drive at all. They envision digital distribution, and given the success of the PSN Store / Live Store / VC Store it's obvious THAT IS THE FUTURE.... Step on board
Steam anyone? I love the way that works.
Hmmm...
Okay, HD-DVD is currently losing. If one already has a 360, though, $179 for the HD-DVD drive with five movies is not a bad deal at all. Since the movies cost over $20 apiece, you're paying less than $79 for the drive, assuming you want those movies.
$500? We're talking about a $179 drive with >$100 in movies.
I agree with the stay out of the format wars sentiment though.
However, I wouldn't say that HD-DVD winning requires an improbable ridiculous event. While Blu-ray DOES have a large lead over HD-DVD, this is relatively speaking. From an absolute standpoint, neither formats have sold well at all, Blu-ray has just sucked less.
If HD-DVD hits $99 before Blu-ray does, it could easily rapidly overtake Blu-ray because suddenly ma and pa are willing to pay for it. Currently, only early adopters and PS3 owners have one of the two formats.
Okay, HD-DVD is currently losing. If one already has a 360, though, $179 for the HD-DVD drive with five movies is not a bad deal at all. Since the movies cost over $20 apiece, you're paying less than $79 for the drive, assuming you want those movies.
$500? We're talking about a $179 drive with >$100 in movies.
I agree with the stay out of the format wars sentiment though.
However, I wouldn't say that HD-DVD winning requires an improbable ridiculous event. While Blu-ray DOES have a large lead over HD-DVD, this is relatively speaking. From an absolute standpoint, neither formats have sold well at all, Blu-ray has just sucked less.
If HD-DVD hits $99 before Blu-ray does, it could easily rapidly overtake Blu-ray because suddenly ma and pa are willing to pay for it. Currently, only early adopters and PS3 owners have one of the two formats.
.....as James Carville would say, it's all about the content, stupid.
I would have to argue that unless HD DVD gets some of those BD exclusive studios to support both formats....the war is over. Universal may or may not be under a timed contract right now, but either way, I think sooner or later they will give in and support both formats.
I would have to argue that unless HD DVD gets some of those BD exclusive studios to support both formats....the war is over. Universal may or may not be under a timed contract right now, but either way, I think sooner or later they will give in and support both formats.
You can, and the Mac OS recognizes it, but it has nothing to play HD-DVD (DVD Player only supports SD).
It should work fine on Leopard, though, as Leopard's DVD player supports HD.
Sorry, but that's crap. Everyone envisions digital distribution as the next logical step, and it's simply not there. Maybe in ten years.
I live in a fairly major city in the area with maybe a half million people. We're fairly modern; health network second to none, and a 100-block WiFi network covering the entire downtown area.
I live in the northmost section of the city. I can drive for twenty minutes north and be in a neighboring city where no one has internet access unless they can afford insane satellite prices with bad bandwidth, or go with dialup, because no DSL or cable are offered. That's twenty minutes away, and it's an entire city.
Even in the city I know tons of people who don't have broadband. Considering that a DVD player is @ $30-$50 compared to broadband which is $25-$50 per month, and extra hardware is required to use more than one piece of equipment with broadband and it's harder for ma and pa to set up...nobody is going to get broadband just for movies if there is a physical alternative available.
iTunes is rapidly eclipsing everyone for music sales, but that's because music is much faster and more convenient to download, and music DRM is nowhere near as restrictive (aka, you can back it up to a physical disk and take it with you in the car or to a friend's house). Meanwhile, movie DRM is ridiculously restrictive (no backing up a hard copy that can be watched at a friend's house, it will only play on your computer and a portable player, and only of a certain type), movies take a lot longer to download and can't be purchased over dialup, etc.
Most people I know with game consoles don't even bother hooking them up to the internet.
Digital Distribution will not be the norm until broadband is everywhere affordably and so cost-effective and useful that everyone will want to have it, not just computer nerds. Like TV.
That won't happen in the next four years.
.....as James Carville would say, it's all about the content, stupid.
I would have to argue that unless HD DVD gets some of those BD exclusive studios to support both formats....the war is over. Universal may or may not be under a timed contract right now, but either way, I think sooner or later they will give in and support both formats.
Yet you support the PS3, which currently lacks content, only promising later exclusives.
If HD-DVD drops into the affordable-by-mom-and-pop range, studios will definitely keep producing titles as the users will be there.
Yet you support the Wii, which currently lacks content, online play, next gen graphics, more than 2 channels of audio, only promising later exclusives.
It goes both ways
Yet you support the Wii, which currently lacks content, online play, next gen graphics, more than 2 channels of audio, only promising later exclusives.
It goes both ways
True, but people who support nintendo know that exclusives are coming, because it has sold so well, look at the DS. The PS3 has sold poorly, which isn't very encouraging for developers to create or keep exclusives for it
True, but people who support nintendo know that exclusives are coming, because it has sold so well, look at the DS. The PS3 has sold poorly, which isn't very encouraging for developers to create or keep exclusives for it
Yea.. look at that PS3 software release lineup, it sure is lacking alright
So lacking that most the games are on the top ten most wanted list in Japan, as opposed to the Wii which had 1 or 2 Considering Nintendo's recent past in the console market I am more fearful on the Wii investment than my PS3.
Ed
Coming from a stark Nintendo loyalist......
15 exclusive(mostly first party) titles by the end of the year. I have foresight.
Either you were jsut making a jab or didn't understand the scope of my comment, either way, I don't think there is a need to clarify studio support in the Optical format war. (as it is self explanatory)
Blu-Ray has (out of the major studios) Sony (Columbia, Tri Star, Sony Pictures Classics), Buena Vista (including Hollywood Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, Walt Disney Pictures, I believe some Dimension), Warner Brothers, Paramount Pictures, and Lionsgate. HD-DVD has WB, Paramount, and Universal. They also have the Weinstien Company, but that's not a big loss for Blu-Ray.
I think both formats still lack content as well, but I still have foresight enough to pick one that will have all the content I will want......
Sorta another reason why I don't mind if in the end HD-DVD dies.....all the movies out there will be very cheap to get. Look at UMD movies now, you can find them in every bargain bin in every store. Now would be a great time to get a bunch of movies for your PSP.
Coming from a stark Nintendo loyalist......
Wii modchip says hi.
DS and GBA region free.
Points for effort.
Yea.. look at that PS3 software release lineup, it sure is lacking alright
Considering Nintendo's recent past in the console market I am more fearful on the Wii investment than my PS3.
Ed
Sky-rocketting Wii and DS software and hardware sales say hi. Listening to public opinion polls? You must check out Gamefaqs polls and nexgenwars if these polls matter so much to you.
Yet you support the Wii, which currently lacks content, online play, next gen graphics, more than 2 channels of audio, only promising later exclusives.
It goes both ways
Praxis didn't talk about lack of content, you should bring that up against Z2D. But he's probably too busy with his content-bursting 360.
Oh, and Wii and DS (since it's inferior to the PSP) software sales dominating charts worldwide, all say hi. So much for lack of content!
so we are condoning piracy eh?
I'm glad I can import a game from any region and KNOW it will play on my console without having to "mod" the hardware. Nintendo Wii = Region locked = BOO(by your definition)
I'm glad I can import a game from any region and KNOW it will play on my console without having to "mod" the hardware. Nintendo Wii = Region locked = BOO(by your definition)
Yeah, pretty terrible argument when you are defending something that needs the purchase and installation of a modchip to something that already supports that stuff out of the box...
The tone thats your reply has and the fact that it got shot down so hard just makes me warn inside.
Yet you support the Wii, which currently lacks content, online play, next gen graphics, more than 2 channels of audio, only promising later exclusives.
It goes both ways
I say: "PS3 lacks exclusives currently but will have them later on. So does HD-DVD. Meanwhile, Blu-ray and XBox 360 have the current content. Your reasons for bashing HD-DVD also applies to the PS3."
You respond: "The Wii is like the PS3!"
I respond with this post: "Duh, which is why I'm not supporting Blu-ray."
Miss the point much?
Honestly, I don't care much which wins. I'm just not writing off HD-DVD. I think whichever hits $99 first will have a HUGE boost in sales and since they've both sold like crap so far (Blu-ray selling like less crap) that boost could switch the tide suddenly or firmly cement the winner.
Please tell me where I said anything about piracy. I have a feeling I'll be waiting all day for an answer before you retract your misquote.
barr08 said:
But it doesn't support region-free out the box
BlueRay is region locked. HD-DVD isn't. Out of curiosity, can a PS3 from the US play European PS2 or PS1 games? Just wondering.
Coming from a stark Nintendo loyalist......
None of us will defend Nintendo's region-locking on the Wii. It's definitely a valid point against Blu-ray, I'd have been willing to pay extra for a Wii without region lock.
True, but people who support nintendo know that exclusives are coming, because it has sold so well, look at the DS. The PS3 has sold poorly, which isn't very encouraging for developers to create or keep exclusives for it
Do I really need to jump in and tell you how crazy this sounds?
We love going in circles at MR...I chase you, you chase me..wash rinse and repeat.
Bless
They seem to use arguments that can be easily shot back at themselves, but they won't see it that way.
How does HD DVD promis MORE exclusive later on when it has already lost most of(everything but Universal pretty much) it exclusive studios. If anything Blu-Ray has the most potential for winning the "content war" of the "optical format war."
whats the point of MODDING proprietary, region locked hardware again?
I'm not sure about your other question, although the PS3 is DVD region locked(as well as Blu-Ray region locked) for the sake of Anti-Piracy - the games however are NOT region locked.