The story behind Pippin is far more complex than most of us care to study. I have read a bit about it, and I recall walking away thinking there were to many details to keep track of.
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You're comparing a phone/tablet OS to a computer.
Apple runs MacOS like Windows:
- You can install what you want.
- You can use the built-in App Store.
- You can even install the Epic Games Store.
Translation: We artificially limit our platform
Translation: We are worse at making money
What utter and complete hypocrisy from Microsoft on this.
Oh man, I needed a good laugh today. Cause yeah there is nothing like playing a game designed for 4K TVs with dedicated controllers on a tiny 5-6” screen using touch controls. What a joke of an argument. 🤣🤣🤣
Apple probably would have ended up with a huge market share since more people would have opted for the less locked down desktop experience that was ALSO easier to use. Care to try again?
I’m sorry that you live under a rock but iOS allows you to connect Xbox and PlayStation controllers via Bluetooth to your iOS, iPadOS, or tvOS devices.
Thanks for showing how little you know 🤣🤣🤣
Apple hasn’t had success at making a dedicated game console either. so glass houses and all that.
Phil Spencer says absolutely nothing negative about Apple. Still you manage to turn it around in such a way that Microsoft is the hypocrite here. Says more about your logic (or lack of it) than about MS being hypocrite.
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That is a totally different business model, you should not forget that.
For Apple to do the same, then the iPhone and iPad should be sold at cost price or even at a small loss, then Apple make up the money over time via the app store.
THEN it would be the same.
Apple want the profit at both ends, not just one, like on consoles.
Like most of Apple's services, they're going to have a bad time if you give the competition the same rules.
Which means why are you using your phone and not your Xbox or PlayStation? The number of people who do that are minimal compared to the number who play made for iPhone games.
Which is why they decided to not do it again and instead made the most successful mobile platform that also does gaming. Microsoft’s inability to compete is on them.
Work on your reading comprehension.
1. he absolutely said negative things about Apple
2. The points I made still stand. So what if Apple isn’t losing money on iPhones?
3. It’s 100% hypocritical to complain about Apples walled garden approach while making an even MORE walled garden product yourself
Maybe you should work on you social skills first. Your condescending and defensive tone (not only in the quote above, but also in other posts in this thread) does not inspire me to discuss this any further with you.
Have a nice day.
That is one way to interpret it. Oddly enough no one seems to be clamoring to play these “mobile” games on the Xbox series X, like they seem to want to play XSX games on the go (xCloud).
Because some people leave their home and want more than pointless iOS games. Or some people only have one tv and want to still play while another household member watches TV.
Google, Steam, Microsoft, NVIDIA, and others are investing hundreds of billions of dollars into cloud gaming. But sure, some rando on MacRumors knows more than all of them combined. OKKKKKK
That’s Microsoft all over. It always has been.
They still haven’t sold me at all on the idea of playing Xbox games on a phone. I mean, the defining console games are usually AAA immersive, cinematic experiences. Good mobile games are just designed entirely differently. Is it cool that I can play them on a phone? Sure, I guess. Would I ever do it? Hell no. Imagine playing an epic like RDR2 on a phone - the experience would be so poor that you would lose a lot of the magic.
And that is all assuming I can get consistent performance over a poor-quality connection, and assuming that my battery lasts long enough for the lengthier sessions those cinematic games are designed around.
GamePass as a subscription is good value, and I could see xCloud being useful for TVs and non-gaming-PCs in lieu of buying an Xbox console, but I’m not seeing the benefit on mobile devices.
So your argument is that large corporations never misread the market? OKKKKK
Also, Nvidia’s entire market cap is $328 Billion. That’s the valuation of the entire company - including all their data-centre and AI business units, ARM, etc. I doubt that even the combined investment by all of those companies is in the “hundreds of billions”, as you say.
1. So you are carrying around your game controller with you while out and about? Yeah that makes sense.
2. Mobile games are not more or less pointless than console or PC games.
3. I never said no one uses cloud gaming, the post I was replying to said that console/PC gaming on mobile was going to destroy mobile gaming and Apple Arcade. It was a bad take then its a bad take now. nothing you have said changes that.
Tone policing = I lost the argument, so I'm going to complain about how you said it.
As of January this year Apple announced that there were over 900 million iPhones in active use, its almost certainly higher now. There are over 2.5 billion active Android phones in USE. So somewhere between 3.5 and 4 billion mobile phones in use worldwide.
PS4, the most successfully currently available console has sold a total of 113.5 million units. Some percentage of those are no longer in use. But even if every single one of them were, thats a fraction, a few percent of the mobile phone user base.
So why would people be clamoring to play mobile games on console? Far more people have mobile phones to begin with. And even with that, many mobile games ARE available on PC/Console, casual games have been on consoles and computers since day 1 of PC gaming (Pong was casual).
Meanwhile, how many people ACTUALLY are demanding to play xbox/PS/PC games on their mobile devices? I'm willing to bet its a minority. The vast majority of phone users don't, and probably never will care. You may care. I may care. But that doesn't mean it is or should be a priority for Apple.