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I use my Series 4 watch all day, every day. The most battery juice I ever used in a day over the last year was around 35%. My Series 2 watch before it, I barely managed to use more than 15-20% in a full day.

Do you have a badly optimised app or something like that? I just don't understand the battery life complaints.

I don't use any extra apps on the watch, just the clock, messages and Apple Pay.
 
The report is from a trusted source Which is why there was an article in the first place

I’m sure we will know soon enough what’s correct
If you’re going to go by those rumours, you should understand the context.

The trusted source just said 4 GB. The 4+2 GB speculation was from others. The trusted source then said he couldn’t entirely exclude 4+2, but all he can see is the 4.

However the +2 part has no actual evidence. It would appear that all is just random speculation.

Then AppleInsider picked up on this and posted an article on this, which OnLeaks then reposted.

It’s amazing how quickly this stuff can snowball.
 
Do the cameras really need their own dedicated 2 GB of RAM? How in the world is that necessary? A few years ago the ENTIRE iPhone only had 2 GB of RAM. Someone more technical than me, please explain.
 
Do the cameras really need their own dedicated 2 GB of RAM? How in the world is that necessary? A few years ago the ENTIRE iPhone only had 2 GB of RAM. Someone more technical than me, please explain.
Other current phones do not use dedicated RAM for the camera AFAIK. The previous iPhones never have either.
 
Other current phones do not use dedicated RAM for the camera AFAIK. The previous iPhones never have either.

Yes, so why would Apple feel the 11 Pro's would need a dedicated 2 GB of RAM? How much dedicated processing power do cameras need? Seems wild to me, presuming we can trust these rumors.
 
Do the cameras really need their own dedicated 2 GB of RAM? How in the world is that necessary? A few years ago the ENTIRE iPhone only had 2 GB of RAM. Someone more technical than me, please explain.


the way the 11's cameras work is they take pictures as soon as you open the camera app and then make a final image after you press the take photo button
 
Yes, so why would Apple feel the 11 Pro's would need a dedicated 2 GB of RAM? How much dedicated processing power do cameras need? Seems wild to me, presuming we can trust these rumors.
Like I said before, all of this 6 GB stuff seems to be coming from idle speculation. There has NEVER been a reliable piece of evidence to suggest 6 GB. There have been numerous 6 GB spec rumours, and I too wished 6 GB to be true, but EVERY single piece of hard evidence so far has indicated 4 GB. Furthermore, two of those pieces of hard evidence comes from Apple itself, via Xcode and via Apple's regulatory filings in China.


the way the 11's cameras work is they take pictures as soon as you open the camera app and then make a final image after you press the take photo button
That requires RAM, but that doesn't require dedicated RAM. Furthermore, that's basically how Live Photos works, except it's video.
 
Forgot about this. Where are the iphone 11 leather cases??????

It’s seems that according to Apple the iPhone 11 isn’t Pro enough to entertain leather. Same with the XR. However, I got a Mujjo leather case for my XR. Although it hasn’t got metal buttons the quality of the leather is far superior and more professional than Apples leather case. Mujjo do a leather case for the iPhone 11 although I haven’t got one of those.
 
I’d love to have the AOD, but I got a gold stainless watch last year and a matching Milanese loop and all that cost a bit. So I’m staying put for now if AOD is the only new feature I’m excited over. I do think the new lineup is very attractive for anyone who is in a position to upgrade. Titanium looks cool!
 
I don't use any extra apps on the watch, just the clock, messages and Apple Pay.

Then something is very wrong with your watch if it burns through the battery with your very, very light usage.

I charge it every night but I got nearly a week out of mine when all I used it for was time, messages/notifications & Apple Pay. I was averaging around 15% a day. Battery life is solid. So yeah, yours is borked.
 
Leaves them something for next year. Apple Watch 6 with even faster processor and iPhone 12 with 5 GB RAM. Yes, 5 because Apple likes to nickle and dime their specs whenever they can. It will most likely be 64 GB disk space too.
 
Then something is very wrong with your watch if it burns through the battery with your very, very light usage.

I charge it every night but I got nearly a week out of mine when all I used it for was time, messages/notifications & Apple Pay. I was averaging around 15% a day. Battery life is solid. So yeah, yours is borked.


I doubt it is borked, this is the longest lasting model yet. My app selection is light but my usage isn't really, I'm out and about all day using it. The S5 has been a little better but I haven't been really using it long enough to tell.
 
Wouldn't it have to be 4GB in the iPhone Pro since that's what was reported in the TENAA listings? I would imagine a regulator wouldn't have inaccurate specs.
 
4 GB for a phone, at this price, which Apple calls “Pro”, in 2019/2020 is a fail. It really is. Not saying they have to match Samsung at 8 GB or more (which they’ve had for a while) but 6 GB would’ve helped offset an already underwhelming release.

Remember, if 4 GB is confirmed (irrespective of the camera) it will remain the most you can get in Apple’s flagship iPhone until September 2020 at least. I was convinced they’d do more this year (or lower the price) to offset slowing or declining growth/revenue but they did neither; and so now we have to put up with Tim $ook comments for another year at least, of which I’ll be happy to contribute.
 
I'm a little disappointed in the watch. I am going to try the always on display to see if its something I like but I was actually hoping for some performance improvements. At the very least I was hoping for some battery improvements. If you use the watch to work out as well as for things like maps the battery takes a major hit and usuallly needs to be charged up if you have a late night. Was hoping for some improvements there, but maybe next year.

I believe that will be next year. Apple is rumoured to be testing sleep tracking internally with the idea of releasing that next year in 2020. That would be a nice update to the watch for 2020, sleep tracking & better battery life. It's this reason why I have not jumped the fence from my Fitbit Charge 2 to the Apple Watch.
 
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We'd suspected that the CPU in the S5 watch was the same as S4, and now we know for sure. That seals the deal for me - no new watch this time around.
 
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4 GB for a phone, at this price, which Apple calls “Pro”, in 2019/2020 is a fail. It really is. Not saying they have to match Samsung at 8 GB or more (which they’ve had for a while) but 6 GB would’ve helped offset an already underwhelming release.

Remember, if 4 GB is confirmed (irrespective of the camera) it will remain the most you can get in Apple’s flagship iPhone until September 2020 at least. I was convinced they’d do more this year (or lower the price) to offset slowing or declining growth/revenue but they did neither; and so now we have to put up with Tim $ook comments for another year at least, of which I’ll be happy to contribute.

So... a few things. Do you use iPhones? I have one with 2GB of RAM and it seems more than fine. Perhaps there is some ultra-advanced app that chows down memory that I'm not accounting for...

More RAM = more power use = less battery life. Would the performance or user experience gains from adding 2GB of RAM be worth the extra power consumption? I'm guessing no. (Maybe this is BS and it doesn't matter on a measurable level, but it not free)

Except for a tiny sliver of enthusiasts, nobody cares about RAM or takes the amount into their purchase consideration. The idea that an iPhone bloated with RAM would sell better then these offerings is not based in reality.

To the "underwhelming/convinced they'd do more" point, I'm really confused by what you expect. More RAM, obviously, but what else? Pencil support? 5G support? (go look at Joanna Sterns article on 5G phones). These are mature products, so expecting much more than incremental updates year over year, barring some major leap forward in the underlying tech, is setting yourself up for disappointment. Most people aren't yearly updaters, so this release is fairly significant for them.
 
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So... a few things. Do you use iPhones? I have one with 2GB of RAM and it seems more than fine. Perhaps there is some ultra-advanced app that chows down memory that I'm not accounting for...
There is that ultra-advanced app called Safari. ;)

More RAM = more power use = less battery life. Would the performance or user experience gains from adding 2GB of RAM be worth the extra power consumption? I'm guessing no. (Maybe this is BS and it doesn't matter on a measurable level, but it not free)
Yes more RAM is definitely beneficial. 2 GB is definitely usable, but I personally find it at times somewhat annoying these days. As has been explained before, if you run more than a few tabs in Safari and have a couple of other apps in the background, you can use up all the 2 GB RAM, so when you go back to background tabs they have to reload. Not the end of the world, but definitely annoying in certain situations. This happens significantly less frequently with 3 GB RAM. It's often worse on iPads than iPhones, but is still a significant issue on iPhones for many people. Note that some people don't seem to care that tabs reload, and others only rarely go back to saved tabs so they don't care, but if you actually actively use tabbed browsing, then it matters. However, I'd say that 3 GB is the sweet spot for the mainstream in 2019, and 4 GB covers most more advanced iPhone users for the near term.

It should be noted though that high end iPad Pros already have 6 GB RAM, so Apple obviously thinks 6 GB is necessary to spec at the high end for some users. And please don't bring in the oft-repeated myth that 6 GB RAM is necessary to manage the extra storage in these 1 TB iPad Pros. The difference in system memory usage between a 1 TB iPad Pro with 6 GB RAM and a 512 MB iPad Pro with 4 GB RAM is only about 133 MB, or about 3% of 4 GB, almost negligible.
 
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